Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 11:10:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: Don't bother with the delete. The put will replace it if it exists or create it if it does not already exist. That's not what I observed - I will try again.

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Wayne Driscoll
I once worked with a guy that wrote a VTAM app that would acquire someone's terminal (easy in the dumb terminal days) and display a screen that would look just like the USS MSG10 screen. When the person attempted to logon, it would respond with idiotic messages, after clearing all data out of the

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP delete On 21 May 2008 11:10:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: Don't

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Mason
Dean If you want to know when a particular function was withdrawn, you can do worse than scanning the IBM publications pages starting here: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/ That is what I have just done on your behalf and I (re)confirmed that the AnyNet functions were removed in

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 13:16 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a program called IJKEFT01 Dave Phillips, Tom Rusnak and I once engaged in that sort of wheel war about a million years ago. An example of the sort of thing we'd do:

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 12:21:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: That's not what I observed - I will try again. Strange. That has always worked for me. If it doesn't work, please post the error message. I'm curious. Hmmm. What I had observed was that the FTP appeared to work, but that

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Chris, Thank you for extracting this for me. I have to digest this. I will be back with another post. Dean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:39:01 -0400, Dean Montevago wrote: If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest of the steps to upload and unwind it ? Never having done this, I'm curious: Neither your followup nor

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:11:54 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of what value is that to an auditor? ... Our auditors are asking us if there is any way we can receive automatic email alerts when the gear phones home. ... I suspect hearing about the phone home capability raises

Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Dee Shrier
I've seen the variation where a CLIST was set up to display a message when a user would log on that his logon authority was temporarily suspended pending an investigation by the security department - great fun when you were just getting back from a nice, relaxing vacation. Also, about 20

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Don Leahy
(BTW creative misuse of the TSO TERMINAL and PROFILE commands was always good for laughs if you found someone's line-mode TSO session unguarded. Sort of like remapping someone's 3270 emulator today.) Speaking of remapping, when I was a junior programmer I was loaned out to another project for

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Jerry Fuchs
'card chads'? Showing your age! Whish I had thought of that back when we had them! Jerry Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 05/21/2008 03:53 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To

Re: TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Tom Harper
Lizette, I'll need to add support for Ed's point of view...I just completed a webinar about zIIP processing this morning and we had four times as many attendees as we have ever had before (well over a hundred). The interest from customers and potential customers was intense and lots of questions

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Fuchs Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers 'card chads'? Showing your age! Whish I

IPCS error

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Schuster
Has anyone encountered this problem when issuing this IPCS command: RSMDATA VIRTPAGE RA(address) COMMON results in: System ABEND 01D, reason code 6B000B10 PSW 070C5000 816E7FD8, module IEANUC01, CSECT IAXDS, offset 0A10 Instruction

Server Pac Issues with z/OS V1.9 SB37 SYSUT1 and other stuff

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
I just wanted to let everyone know of an issue I had with the Serverpac Install. First, YES - I did not read the PSP. So it is not a surprise I made a small miscalculation. In Dec 2007 there was a fix that was release for GIMUNZIP. It has to do with SB37 abends on SYSUT1 during the Unzip of

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:18:09 -0400, Richards, Robert B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I smiled when I read them, but then the adult inside me kicked in his two cents and decided that to actually do these jokes would not be funny. ... I very seldomly find practical jokes funny. But I could see

Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:53:43 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: In your PARMLIB create: BROWSESYS1.TEST.ZOS17.PARMLIB(PROGDM) - 01.01Line Col 001 080 Command === Scroll === CSR * Top of Data

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip-- In school, *someone* wrote a program called FUN that simulated the command prompt of the interactive system we used. FUN was a simple program that waited for some input from the user, wrote an exact replica of the message that would appear when an

Re: IPCS error

2008-05-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:02:52 -0500 Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Has anyone encountered this problem when issuing this IPCS command: :RSMDATA VIRTPAGE RA(address) COMMON :results in: :System ABEND 01D, reason code 6B000B10 :PSW 070C5000

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 12:43:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: The PL had PFK10 set up as CANCEL. This screwed me up because my own userid had PFK10 set up as SAVE. After losing several rounds of changes by hitting CANCEL when I meant SAVE, I changed the PL's PFK10 setting to match the one

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 12:57:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Fuchs) wrote: 'card chads'? Showing your age! Whish I had thought of that back when we had them! Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's eyes.

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gerhard Adam
How about an operator command we wrote as follows: $TSYS=HI $HASP000 OK $HASP999 System now in high speed Adam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

xPLPA page PGSER FREE

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Schuster
Hello: Pages of xPLPA are considered eligible for page-out (right?) So would doing a PGSER FREE on a xPLPA page (after a PGSER FIX was previously done) make this page any more subject to being stolen and paged out? Trying to resolve a problem where this PGSER FREE is being considered the

Re: TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Harper wrote: I can see Trever Eddolls point of view, that there isn't all that much out there yet. My analogy is that it's something like HDTV. You see it, you like it, you want more. But it takes time to develop, test, and implement, as writing code in Enclave SRB mode is not easy, as I'm

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Of what value is that to an auditor? Who knows? It is likely on some check list somewhere. Many auditors, the poor kind, love those don't-have-to-think-about-it check lists! I disagree. Auditors do not set standards, nor do they enforce them. Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) set standards

ADD Dataset to Linklst - thank-you!

2008-05-21 Thread Lucy Arnold
Thank-you everyone who answered! All the information I rec'd was MOST helpfull! Thanks again! Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

2008-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/19/2008 at 03:02 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is supported with basic sysplex. Then why didn't you say so? Doesn't my statement - Basic vs. Parallel sysplex isn't the issue already imply that clearly enough? Obviously not. -- Shmuel

Re: plpa pages and pgser

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/21/2008 12:06:26 AM: Hello: xPLPA pages are eligible for page out (right?) So if a PGSER FREE is issued (preceded by a PGSER FIX) against a xPLPA page, would it make it any more easier for it to be paged out? Trying to

Phillips, Mike is out of the office.

2008-05-21 Thread Mike Phillips
I will be out of the office starting 05/21/2008 and will not return until 05/27/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip 'card chads'? Showing your age! Whish I had thought of that back when we had them! Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's eyes. unsnip--- AMEN. Spent 6 weeks with an

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm surprised at how many people missed the point of this blog post. The blogger was correct. We have lost our sense of humour. Did anybody read the disclaimer? [Update: For those of you who missed the tongue in cheek nature of this post, it is in fact, a joke. Please don’t try this at work. —

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There's a simple ROT here. Do NOT assign PF keys to CANCEL (or SAVE, which as your experience demonstrates, is similarly destructive when unintended.) It's users' foolishness in so doing which impels vendors to presume to save them from their own stupidity by adding PITA confirmation dialogs

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:31:16 -0400, David Andrews wrote: That was well over 20 years ago, back when we worked 16 hour days for the joy of it. These days the auditors and security officers would go berzerk; but at the time *we* were in charge of security, and EDP auditors hadn't yet arrived on

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:35:43 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List I use (replace at the end of the put command to overwrite the file. When going to the open system servers (Windows, Linux, AIX), we never do that. Actually in the IBM

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 23:39:44 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: It IS NOT stupidity to customise keys! If a user wants a SAVE or CANCEL key, and knows where it is, what is the problem? I envy your dexterity. OTOH, I recall bitter opposition (though not unanimous) in these pages when I expressed a wish

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Roger Bolan
I think some of the things on the list are conceptual jokes but not practical, sort of like the stuff that happens to Wiley Coyote. These are funny to think about, or see in a cartoon, but not funny if they really happened to someone. I think the guideline for jokes has to be harmlessness.

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I wouldn't make DELETE or CANCEL a single keystroke command, but I feel DENTER gives me sufficient opportunity to reconsider, and I shouldn't need to type / to bypass confirmation every time I enter DSLIST. There is a way in DSLIST, or ISPF EDIT. Make the single CANCEL Key (EDIT) the

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think some of the things on the list are conceptual jokes but not practical, sort of like the stuff that happens to Wiley Coyote. These are funny to think about, or see in a cartoon, but not funny if they really happened to someone. I think the guideline for jokes has to be harmlessness.

Re: IPCS RUNARRAY/CBFORMAT question

2008-05-21 Thread Robert Wright
Gord Tomlin wrote: Apparently I'm a bit thick today, but I cannot seem to get the results I want from the IPCS RUNARRAY subcommand when combined with the CBFORMAT command. I have an array of control blocks in a dump, and I want to use a format model to display each element of the array. In a

Re: IPCS RUNARRAY/CBFORMAT question

2008-05-21 Thread Robert Wright
Robert Wright wrote: PROC 0 EVALSYM X CLIST(POSITION(P) LENGTH(L) HEXADECIMAL) CBFORMAT X+P POSITION(0) LENGTH(L.) MODEL(format-model-name) Of course the CLIST would work better if the CBFORMAT subcommand took into account that the length in variable L had been formatted using

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 13:06 -0400 on 05/21/2008, Richards, Robert B. wrote about Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers: Ask the person that was the object of the joke if they thought it was funny. Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next person, but these did not hit my funny bone for some

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:01 -0600 on 05/21/2008, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers: Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's eyes. They can also affect national elections if not fully detached from the punched card.

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