Re: Need to cap my software costs

2008-12-31 Thread Jacky Hofbauer
Some people activate a Coupling Facility LPAR with a z/OS CP in dyndisp=no mode: its weight represents the number MSU which you want consume without billing because these MSUs doesn't enter in the SW bill. As all functions of capping, it's a technical way. You need to search for a financial way.

Why would I use System REXX as shown in the sample? (was: RO command query)

2008-12-31 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
If this is only system REXX issue, there is an example of using AXRMLWTO in the MVS Authorized Assembler Services Guide: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A881/31. 5?SHELF=IEA2BK81DT=20080120225118 While we're at it: I once more tried to understand the advantage of

Re: Shell Scripts in EKM

2008-12-31 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
The reason is our EMK server on z/OS V1.9 does not have any message IDs, so all we get is the following text: Server is running. TCP port: 3801, SSL port: 1443 Seems like inacceptable behaviour for a software to be run on z/OS. I'd try to open a PMR requesting identifiable messages. --

Re: Shell Scripts in EKM

2008-12-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have already done that. A requirements hasw been accepted. But with ported applications I am not sure how long it will take for IBM to action this. Not enough z/OS Users or tape encryption to put pressure on sooner than later. So in the meantime, I am hoping a shell script could be created

Re: Cobol and variable record length RRDS files

2008-12-31 Thread Jonathan Miller
Here is the code I use to get the length of a variable rrds record DATA DIVISION. FILE SECTION. FD TLCMST RECORD IS VARYING FROM 879 TO 1679 CHARACTERS DEPENDING ON TLCMST-LENGTH. COPY TLCMST. - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20 Line(s) not Displayed 01 WORK-FLDS1

Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, I’ve encountered something in Syncsort, and I’m looking for an explanation. One of our users used Syncsort to copy a dataset. The input file had 93386 tracks in 10 extents. The output file had 64815 tracks in 2 extents. Both files are LRECL=27904 BLKSIZE=27998 RECFM=VB

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:56:20 +0200 ??? ?? ??? gad...@malam.com wrote: :I’ve encountered something in Syncsort, and I’m looking for an explanation. :One of our users used Syncsort to copy a dataset. :The input file had 93386 tracks in 10 extents. :The output file had 64815 tracks in 2 extents.

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Gadi, May Syncsort truncate the record if trailing x'00'' or blanks are padded at end of some of the records? I would look into the shorter records in the file to see if they are realy shorter... Itschak 2008/12/31 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com Hi, I've encountered something in Syncsort,

Re: Shell Scripts in EKM

2008-12-31 Thread Jousma, David
Yes, it is in the manual. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Why would I use System REXX as shown in the sample? (was: RO command query)

2008-12-31 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:38:36 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: Samples are just that. They aren't indicative of the best way to do something. But good samples are better than bad samples. :-) What (advantage) am I missing? Being able to execute the

Re: SHARE Session 8194: z390 and zcobol Portable Mainframe COBOL Compiler written in structured macro assembler

2008-12-31 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:16:25 -0600, Don Higgins d...@higgins.net wrote: Here is something new and something old for 2009. Come to SHARE session 8194 in Austin TX on March 3, 2009 at 8 AM for the first live demonstration of zcobol portable mainframe COBOL compiler which is written in z390

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I would look at the raw input file and see how it was blocked. Perhaps the program that created the file wrote smaller blocks. The OP did say they both had the same block size. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For

Bug or feature ? (ICSF)

2008-12-31 Thread R.S.
I found discrepancy between ICSF documenation and reality. Documentation says: When KGUP generates a key, the program also generates information to create the complementary key. This information includes the complementary key value. The value is either a clear key value or encrypted key

Re: Why would I use System REXX as shown in the sample? (was: RO command query)

2008-12-31 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I agree with the STORAGE function being required for SYSREXX to be useful. Jon L. Veilleux veilleu...@aetna.com (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:42 AM

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Syncsort Oddity Hi, =20 I=92ve encountered something in Syncsort, and I=92m looking for an =

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Barry Merrill
Use SAS to find the actual physical block size of the two files: // EXEC SAS //FILEONE DD DSN=FILEONE,DISP=SHR //FILETWO DD DSN=FILETWO,DISP=SHR //SYSIN DD * DATA SIZEONE; INFILE FILEONE RECFM=U BLKSIZE=32760 LENGTH=LEN; INPUT; LENGTH=LEN; PROC FREQ: TABLES LENGTH; TITLE TABULATION OF BLOCK SIZES

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barry Merrill Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syncsort Oddity Use SAS to find the actual physical block size of the two files: SNIP And for

Re: Attachmate Extra! Toolbar editor - Usage assistance

2008-12-31 Thread Bill George
Peter FYI - I did some 'playing' around and was working with the Quick Pads editor, which is MUCH more robust (you can alter the size of buttons and move ANYWHERE you'd like...), and created a quick pad with the customized items I wanted from the items in that 'other' customized toolbar which

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:00:35 + Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: :I would look at the raw input file and see how it was blocked. Perhaps the program that created the file wrote smaller blocks. :The OP did say they both had the same block size. The same maximum block size. Not

new lpar

2008-12-31 Thread Kurt Eastwood
Thanks to anyone and everyone in advance.   I am trying to build a new test lpar and running into an issue.    I have created a new iocp and performed an activation and ipl of this new lpar. The new lpar appears to ipl but the console is being sent to the SE console. I deactivated the other lpar

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The same maximum block size. Not necessarily the same sizes for specific blocks. Eh? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with

Re: new lpar

2008-12-31 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:34:36 -0800, Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks to anyone and everyone in advance.   I am trying to build a new test lpar and running into an issue.    I have created a new iocp and performed an activation and ipl of this new lpar. The new lpar appears to ipl

Re: new lpar

2008-12-31 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown [ snip ] Let me be the first to wish everybody a safe and sane 4th of July! Little late, aren't you? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: new lpar

2008-12-31 Thread Rabbe, Luke
Nah, he might actually be the first - it's 7 months away. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: new lpar -Original Message-

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Scott Rowe
When using VB, some code will write a short block if the space remaining in the current block is less than the DCB LRECL, even though the actual length of the next record is unknown. This results in a lot of short blocks, particularly when the LRECL is large, as in this case. Ted MacNEIL

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:35:20 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: The same maximum block size. Not necessarily the same sizes for specific blocks. Eh? Ever heard of TRUNC? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When using VB, some code will write a short block if the space remaining in the current block is less than the DCB LRECL, even though the actual length of the next record is unknown. This results in a lot of short blocks, particularly when the LRECL is large, as in this case. So, SYNCSORT

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:56:20 +0200, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; #1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote: I’ve encountered something in Syncsort, and I’m looking for an explanation. One of our users used Syncsort to copy a dataset. The input file had 93386 tracks in 10 extents.

Boxed Devices Ate My Job

2008-12-31 Thread Ben Alford
Our IMS system periodically submits batch jobs to offload its logs. Of course the job never fails until we run for 9 days unattended over the Christmas break. Some unexplained event caused the twin fiber links to our VTS to drop offline for about 10 minutes, generating sticky messages IOS581E and

Re: Boxed Devices Ate My Job

2008-12-31 Thread Norris Jackson
If you have some sort of automation package like Mainview for IMS or AutoOperator, you could have it change your archive job to use DASD rather than tape when it sees your VTS's go boxed. Then your IMS's don't go belly up because they ran out of OLDS, and your archives don't get backed up either.

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:22 +0200 on 12/31/2008, Binyamin Dissen wrote about Re: Syncsort Oddity: On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:56:20 +0200 ??? ?? ??? gad...@malam.com wrote: :I¹ve encountered something in Syncsort, and I¹m looking for an explanation. :One of our users used Syncsort to copy a dataset. :The input

Re: Boxed Devices Ate My Job

2008-12-31 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Ben, We don't have IMS, but we do have other tasks that submit jobs, so pehaps this method will be helpful - it works well for us. We have the submitted JCL IEFBR14 allocate and catalog a dataset instead of running the 'real' job. We tell our scheduling system (ZEKE) to submit a job (in

Re: How to calculate size of a PS dataset (no, no yet again)

2008-12-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 000801c9670e$3b559f80$b200de...@hawkins1960@sbcglobal.net, on 12/25/2008 at 07:58 PM, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net said: So what is your answer to the question? The one that I posted: use, e.g., BLK3390 to determine how many blocks will fit on a track, then do the arithmetic.

Re: Find CLASS and MSGCLASS

2008-12-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cd427cf50812300153s3547f9f5h3403f31ac885f...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/30/2008 at 03:23 PM, Yogeetha balasubramanian sairamyog...@gmail.com said: I have always thought about finding the class and the msgclass myself for creating our own jobcard. Do someone know how to find them ? MSGCLASS is

Re: Find CLASS and MSGCLASS

2008-12-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200812301235128694.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/30/2008 at 12:35 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Wouldn't it be nice if, like the USERID, default OUTPUT parameters (CLASS, DEST, FORMS, etc.) were inherited from the submitting job? Not only would it be nice, but some of

Re: SHARE Session 8194: z390 and zcobol Portable Mainframe COBOL Compiler written in structured macro assembler

2008-12-31 Thread Tony Harminc
2008/12/31 John McKown joa...@swbell.net: On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:16:25 -0600, Don Higgins d...@higgins.net wrote: Here is something new and something old for 2009. Come to SHARE session 8194 in Austin TX on March 3, 2009 at 8 AM for the first live demonstration of zcobol portable mainframe

REXX STORAGE (was: Why would I use System REXX as shown in the sample? (was: RO command query))

2008-12-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:42:26 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... Personally, until there is a supported / alternate STORAGE function that I can use, I probably won't be doing much with it.Console automation packages can be used instead. ... I know this is the wrong

Re: new lpar

2008-12-31 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:34:36 -0800, Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks to anyone and everyone in advance.   I am trying to build a new test lpar and running into an issue.    I have created a new iocp and performed an activation and ipl of this new lpar. The new lpar appears to ipl

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Bob Rutledge
And if you don't have SAS, user SYNCSORT's HISTOGRM program to get a distribution of block sizes. // EXEC PGM=HISTOGRM //SYSUT1 DD DISP=SHR, // DSN= //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* Bob Barry Merrill wrote: Use SAS to find the actual physical block size of the two files:

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Gibney, Dave
Both files are LRECL=27904 BLKSIZE=27998 RECFM=VB DSNTYPE=LARGE Unless it's a typo BLKSIZE=27998 is 90 bytes more than needed for VB LRECL 27904. Yet another factor. I would expect Syncsort to correct most of the possibilities already discussed. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services

FW: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Bill Klein
This was supposed to go to the IBM-MAIN, not assembler list. Sorry about that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Klein Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:33 AM To: assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu Subject:

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:16:43 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: When using VB, some code will write a short block if the space remaining in the current block is less than the DCB LRECL, even though the actual length of the next record is unknown. This results in a lot of short blocks,

IBM Debug Tool in pure batch

2008-12-31 Thread Michael Bradley
I'm trying to use the IBM Debug Tool to list some data names during a Batch run, with the DT commands in INSPIN, and capturing the responses in INSPLOG.  All is well, until I attempt to continue a command onto a second line.  Since it's a COBOL program that's running, I start the command in 8,

Fw: IBM Debug Tool in pure batch

2008-12-31 Thread Bill Klein
According to: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/eqa9ug00/5.1.4 It looks like you are doing this correctly. Assuming you are current on maintenance, I would report this to the IBM support center (and reference the documentation above). Michael Bradley mjm...@yahoo.com

Re: Syncsort Oddity

2008-12-31 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi Everyone, I ran the Histogram utility on both files: On the first file, the maximum block was a bit over 16k and most were about 2k. On the second file most of the blocks were over 25k. So it seems the Syncsort did some major reblocking which caused the savings in both space and access