Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Gabe Goldberg
I joined IBM after college, summer of '68, spent six months in various classes before joining the OS/360 System Design Department as a junior programmer. Bill Collier was one of the instructors, an amazing/brilliant motivated and motivating teacher. Coincidentally, I very recently saw a referen

Re: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM

2010-01-19 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "John Mattson" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:46 PM Subject: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without deleting the PDS. I just stu

Re: FW: Mainframe console issue - urgent

2010-01-19 Thread Chris Mason
Chokalingam Thangavelu I would have thought that if this was *urgent*, you would have responded to my last post explaining how you had resolved the problem or posting your ICC "session" parameters. Some time ago I assisted with an ICC problem in the VSE-L list. It was also a case of not being

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes: > On thinking it over some, it had to be early 1968, ending around March > or so (I just reviewed my CV and found I went to FE education in April > of 1968). So maybe it was closer to Release 11 or 12. Wasn't release > 14 actually 14/15 (not that that m

Re: Enterprise COBOL printer control char.

2010-01-19 Thread Chris Mason
> Freedom of speech and all that? > Perhaps all COBOL questions can stay in a single thread too? Common sense and all that? On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:19:27 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >It wasn't ignorance of the original thread. > >Freedom of speech and all that? > >Raising the cover is an in

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Mike Myers
Yes, it was. The idea came up somewhere after release 1 was in the field a while and APARs had come in against it and PTFs had been applied and update releases fixed problems. I was just a junior programmer at the time, so it wasn't even my idea, I was just the guy who implemented MEMMAP. So,

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4b561b06.1050...@mentor-services.com>, on 01/19/2010 at 03:50 PM, Mike Myers said: >So I saw OS/360 release 1 run sometime in mid 1968. Wasn't that kind of long in the tooth by then? As I recall, 1968 was when Release 14 came out. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM

2010-01-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:23:17 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without >deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from >ServerPac CPP. > >IDCAMS: > >DELETE MY.PDS(*) > >I have a few REXX programmes using that. >

Re: RES: PDSE allocated and used space

2010-01-19 Thread Edward Jaffe
Adauto wrote: ... I have an assembler batch program where I need to obtain this kind of information. I would like to take this information through same macro or control block or ... What can I do in this case ? You get this information using the GETATTR function of FAMS. It's use is docume

Re: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM

2010-01-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from ServerPac CPP. IDCAMS: DELETE MY.PDS(*) I have a few REXX programmes using that. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM

2010-01-19 Thread John Mattson
Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from ServerPac CPP. I noticed this REXX in and amongst the JCL. SCPPCENU(CPPEDELM) Everyone who has used CPP should have a copy. Its only about 100 line

Re: WLM BATCH rules

2010-01-19 Thread R Hey
I had a look & it seems %80+ JES inits %20- WLM inits Also a HOTBATCH SC is used, so 7 SC is used for all batch. Rgds, Rez -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu wi

Re: DFSORT memory used & paging

2010-01-19 Thread R Hey
> Why does the percent of page slots keep increasing over time. That got me too. First I thought we had a bug. But it appears to be a feature. It seems that not all page-outs would be brought in, unless they are wanted. I like the idea of NOT running the big sort jobs at the same time. Rez Me

Page Dataset Question

2010-01-19 Thread Eric Bielefeld
We had a problem with a system with not enough page space defined. I remember discussions a long time ago on IBM-Main saying that if you have local page datasets of differing sizes, that you will never use all of the space on the larger page datasets if you add a larger page dataset. Is that s

Probably a simple MQSeries question

2010-01-19 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi List, Being an MQ novice (OK, blatantly clueless about it) I have what could be a rather simple question on it. MQ was set up here by a contractor so I really don't know much about the setup. I can get queue names and so on. I am migrating from z/OS 1.7 to 1.10, and part of this is upgrading

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Mike Myers
Lindy: I found it fascinating back then in the 60's and, like you, I still do. Though I've done less programming recently than back in the good old days, I still look for (and take) any opportunities that come along. :-) Mike Myers Mentor Services Corporation Lindy Mayfield wrote: Seriously

Re: Getmain Freemain?

2010-01-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I have an old assembler program which we call numerous times from a rexx script. There seems to be an issue introduced with our z/OS 1.10 upgrade which did not previously exist... the memory usage builds up and eventually abend

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Seriously, you guys are so so cool. Back in the good ol days when a system programmer was actually a programmer and not simply a sysadmin. Me I'm just a young kid that finds this stuff fascinating. really fascinating. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-19 Thread Ivan Warren
Alan Altmark wrote: A DAT-off operating system with 370ACCOM ON just might work. 370ACCOM doesn't just cover I/O, but also handles BC-mode PSWs, storage key management, the interval timer, interruption parameters, and other S/360-S/370 widgets. See Ch. 27 or so in the CP Programming Services b

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Mike Myers
If Lindy actually comes up with a working version of PCP, that would be something I would like to see, just for old time's sake. It's been a long time since I last saw it run. I started IBM programming school the day after OS/360 release 1 (PCP) went GA, and it was the first system ever progr

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:19:50 -0500, P S wrote: >Ah, true, if SIE handles it, you're SOL. But since 370ACCOM works, I >*think* an invalid opcode gets to CP. Would have to look; as you say, >in the (bad) old days, we know CP would have been handling it for >sure! SIE is pretty amazing... A DAT-off

Re: Getmain Freemain?

2010-01-19 Thread John P Kalinich
Jeffrey Deaver of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/19/2010 01:34:11 PM: > STR5,SAVER5 > GETMAIN EC,LV=(5),A=TABLADDR,SP=2 > > L R5,SAVER5 > FREEMAIN R,LV=(5),A=TABLADDR,SP=2 > > SAVER5 DCF'0' > > So I think I have the form right, its not complaining about the FREEMAIN

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Ivan Warren
Lindy Mayfield wrote: Lindy is only trying to understand the code that Fred and his team spent a portion of a billion dollars writing. I fear that getting it running on Hercules would be a wonderful challenge, but in the end a letdown because once it is running I wouldn't be able to do much. I'm

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Lindy is only trying to understand the code that Fred and his team spent a portion of a billion dollars writing. I fear that getting it running on Hercules would be a wonderful challenge, but in the end a letdown because once it is running I wouldn't be able to do much. I'm happy traipsing thr

Re: Getmain Freemain?

2010-01-19 Thread McKown, John
Do you have any OPEN's for DCBs using QSAM? That will acquire buffers, I think that they're in SP0. You need to do a FREEPOOL immediately after you CLOSE the DCB to release them. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richl

Is CONN_ID needed for DESERV RELEASE?

2010-01-19 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
After executing a DESERV macro with the function GET_ALL, a (possibly large) memory area is returned headed by the DESB with the remainder populated by SMDE's representing each member. From reading the FM, it looks like the DESERV function RELEASE is intended to be used to release this storage. D

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Ivan Warren
Shedlock, George wrote: Then there is the possibility that you can write your own macro to handle these issues. That is if you know what it is "supposed" to do in the first place. The issue is more complicated than that. If Lindy intends to port OS/360 to the ESA/390 architecture, it's going

Re: Getmain Freemain?

2010-01-19 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
STR5,SAVER5 GETMAIN EC,LV=(5),A=TABLADDR,SP=2 L R5,SAVER5 FREEMAIN R,LV=(5),A=TABLADDR,SP=2 SAVER5 DCF'0' So I think I have the form right, its not complaining about the FREEMAIN being invalid anymore, but its also not working as I would expect it. Initially, it was complaining b

Re: Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]

2010-01-19 Thread Shedlock, George
Then there is the possibility that you can write your own macro to handle these issues. That is if you know what it is "supposed" to do in the first place. George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto

Re: REXX Reading VSAM KSDS

2010-01-19 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I can't see that you have allocated the input KSDS. Add ALLOC F(VSAMKSDS) DA('MY.VSAM.FILE') SHR REUSE On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Rich Smrcina wrote: > On 01/19/2010 06:16 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: >> >> Have a look at file 268 on the CBTTAPE.  It is a rexx that reads VSAM >> datasets.

Re: Getmain Freemain?

2010-01-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Jeffrey Deaver wrote: GETMAIN EC,LV=(5),A=TABLADDR TABLADDR DCA(0) And I was thinking that the freemain would just be FREEMAIN R,LV=(0),A=TABLADDR But that results in: IEA705I ERROR DURING FREEMAIN SYS CODE = 30A-1C The contents of R0, for your form, must be the same as R5 for the G

Getmain Freemain?

2010-01-19 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I have an old assembler program which we call numerous times from a rexx script. There seems to be an issue introduced with our z/OS 1.10 upgrade which did not previously exist... the memory usage builds up and eventually abends. There is no freemain in the program, so I'm thinking adding one at

Re: Any idea how a batch pgm (fetchable routine) can find out by which program it was fetched?

2010-01-19 Thread Victor Gil
Jan, A program can be fetched by one module [during the first CALL] and then also get called by other modules. I don't know how to track the FETCHER, but I have an Assembler subroutine that returns a module name of the current CALLER. If you are interested, please, contact me offline. -Victo

Re: LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC

2010-01-19 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC Good Morning Gentle Readers, =A0 I am trying to trouble shoot a problem

Re: LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC

2010-01-19 Thread esmie moo
Sam,   Thanks for the info.  I will check it out. --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Sam Siegel wrote: From: Sam Siegel Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:33 AM On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:28 PM, esmie moo wrote: > Good Mornin

Re: LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC

2010-01-19 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:28 PM, esmie moo wrote: > Good Morning Gentle Readers, > > I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which invokes NOTE/POINT LOGIC. I > GOOGLED it but I didn't find what I was looking for. Would anyone know who > the vendor is or if there is a site that I could look at?

LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC

2010-01-19 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,   I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which invokes NOTE/POINT LOGIC.  I GOOGLED it but I didn't find what I was looking for.  Would anyone know who the vendor is or if there is a site that I could look at?   Thanks in advance. _

Re: RACF Protection for Initiiators - JES2

2010-01-19 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Penny, The following somewhat dated manual has sample code for JES Exit 6 that should do what you want. GG66-3218 - RACF Security Administrator's Quick Reference Regards, Bob Robert S. Hansel Lead RACF Specialist RSH Consulting, Inc. www.rshconsulting.com 617-969-8211 -Original Message

Re: HVCOMMON

2010-01-19 Thread Gil Peleg
Hi Barbara, I know it doesn't count as an official publication, but the additional 2gb in the high common are actually documented in the z/OS v1r10 implementation redbook (sg24-7605). Gil. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: > Elpida, > > >z/OS adds 2G (for system use) to the a

Re: RACF Protection for Initiiators - JES2

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:36:10 -0600, Penny Kay wrote: >Historically at our site we checked the jobcard in Exit 2 which had >time specifications in the accounting field and then added time and class >according to those specifications. >Finally, we are moving from z/os 1.6 to 1.8 and have to eit

Re: DFSORT memory used & paging

2010-01-19 Thread Terry Draper
My response is not directly to this posting, just my comments to the original question. I do not have the original post.   First, I have to ask what is more important to you? Is it SORTs or your online systems? I will assume online.   We had problems with large sorts impacting our online. CICS is

Re: How to obtain "TGTZONENAME" in an existing SMPE dataset

2010-01-19 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I use this JCL: //SMPEEXEC PGM=GIMSMP //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPRPT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPSNAP DD SYSOUT=* //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MVST.CSI //SMPCNTL DD * SET BDY(??). LIST DDDEF. /* My question is there any

Re: WLM BATCH rules

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:20:05 -0600, R Hey wrote: >I know WLM & JES inits should not use the same SC, but what would be >the 'cost' of doing so? > >Like have 3 SC : BAThi/md/lo for both WLM & JES inits. It depends. With WLM inits the queue delay is part of the equation in determining the PI.

Re: REXX Reading VSAM KSDS

2010-01-19 Thread Rich Smrcina
On 01/19/2010 06:16 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Have a look at file 268 on the CBTTAPE. It is a rexx that reads VSAM datasets. Lizette If that's the RXVSAM package/function, I've made good use of it. Good stuff, I highly recommend it. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.lin

Re: JES cold start to get WLM managed classes ?

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:47:30 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari wrote: >Hi > >Do we need a JES COLD start to changed some classes to WLM managed ? >(according the book yes we need) > The manual is correct. You need a cold start for a change made via PARMLIB to take effect. However, if you read a little

Re: WLM BATCH rules

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:54:52 -0600, R Hey wrote: > >> It's a side issue... but if they … > >I didn’t get your point here. >Are you saying I should use less SC for JES inits alone? > My point was this: Most shops who convert to WLM INITs do it for all work or the vast majority of their work.

Re: DFSORT memory used & paging

2010-01-19 Thread Staller, Allan
Page out is asynchronous and will only affect paging performance to the extent that the channel/device is not available for demand page-in. By %USE I meant page slots used, meaning increase in page out. > Why does workflow drop from %use? too much juice wasted on paging out/in. The issue is no

Re: DFSORT memory use & paging

2010-01-19 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I'm curious. Why does the percent of page slots keep increasing over time. I would think that when a job ends, all its page slots would dropped, and all the space taken in the page dataset would be released. I have noticed that kind of behaviour also. I suspect that long running started tasks ar

Re: REXX Reading VSAM KSDS

2010-01-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
Rather than using OUTTRAP allow the output to go to your terminal with trace ?i. This way you can see what is or is not working. With vsam all messages that go to SYSPRINT could help in identifying your issue. It maybe that you did not do an ALLOC DD(VSAMKSDS) or freed SYSPRINT. The messages wo

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b902fa5...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local>, on 01/18/2010 at 05:35 PM, "Thompson, Steve" said: >And you have hit upon another problem. Certain instructions used in >macros from the F Assembler days won't work in the H-ASM or HL-ASM >environments (macro debug that F

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0377b9a583fd0e4aacd676ee33ee994b2abbc...@sdkmail13.emea.sas.com>, on 01/17/2010 at 06:08 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >I was looking for the 1st OS, which I think is PCP. Is that correct? No. The first OS predates the S/360. PCP is just a sysgen option of OS/360. On S/360 I believe that BOS/

Re: REXX Reading VSAM KSDS

2010-01-19 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Check maybe the SYSPRINT VSAMKSDS allocation ? Umamaheshwar Iyer wrote: Friends, Friends I am trying to read a VSAM KSDS file thru REXX. Here is what I have "ALLOC ds('"tempfile"') dd(tempdd) new SPACE(5,5) DSORG(ps)", "RECFM(f,b) LRECL(80)"

REXX Reading VSAM KSDS

2010-01-19 Thread Umamaheshwar Iyer
Friends, Friends I am trying to read a VSAM KSDS file thru REXX. Here is what I have "ALLOC ds('"tempfile"') dd(tempdd) new SPACE(5,5) DSORG(ps)", "RECFM(f,b) LRECL(80)" if rc/=0 then do say

Re: How to obtain "TGTZONENAME" in an existing SMPE dataset

2010-01-19 Thread Walter Marguccio
> Subject: How to obtain "TGTZONE > From: Hilario > Subject: How to obtain "TGTZONENAME" in an existing SMPE dataset > My question is there any way to obtain this name ? using your very JCL, you could list all zones (target & DLIBs) related to your GLOBAL zone : //SMPCNTL DD * SET BDY(GLO

How to obtain "TGTZONENAME" in an existing SMPE dataset

2010-01-19 Thread Hilario
Hi, I will try to list the DDDEF of a target SMP/E. Problem is that the file were created for a person that left the company and there isn't any documentation about it. I tried with the most usual names: MVST, MVST100, TGT1, and so on. I use this JCL to do this: //SMPEEXEC PGM=G

Re: DFSORT memory used & paging

2010-01-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Reza, What does it matter if the slot count grows the way you described> the slot count does not affect performance, nor does writing those slots. Apart from keeping slot allocation efficient you should not be concerned with a slot usage less than 30%. So what you are saying is that when the larg