Re: Server PAC panel ALIAS Issue

2012-05-04 Thread Walter Marguccio
From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com   But I am not able to change catalog name for $SYS alias. it always takes master catalog name.   Sourabh, from the Modify System Layout you can override the master catalog attribute for the $SYS datasets using the command CH MCAT N.

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, I realize you said that you contacted the Automation Software companies, but you didn't contact us. We have hundreds of sites running our automation software, and while we were aware of how to process and not process the verbose messages, we were never contacted from you (or anyone) to

Re: WLM : multiple periods not recommended for batch - why?

2012-05-04 Thread Cobe Xu
interesting topic.. I also wonder on if those service classes that are not active (no rules,no workload assigned) will cause WLM overhead? If no, then the suggested total number of sc/periods are for active ones only.. any document supporting this? -- Cobe Xu Best Regards

Any simple tool to monitor the storage uasge ?

2012-05-04 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Any simple tool, to monitor the storage usage of an address space ? I'm using now the MXI from Rob Scott, and it is very good, but I would need something like a function call to get this in a program or in REXX -- For

SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY

2012-05-04 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,   I am following up on a problem regarding the corruption of a dsn.  I have the SMF records for the day, however since the daily tapes are merged into a weekly tape I am having a problem (space issues) trying to extract only the type 14 15 records for that particular date.  I looked at

Re: Any simple tool to monitor the storage uasge ?

2012-05-04 Thread Rob Scott
The MXI 4.3 freeware product comes with a REXX interface - it returns the information that would have been presented on the screen as a set of REXX stem variables for each logical line. The commercial version of MXI has an enhanced REXX API where you can directly access each column variable

Re: Any simple tool to monitor the storage uasge ?

2012-05-04 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Thank you, I will try out with REXX and stem. I would need something , shows the running address space memory usage in some time intervals. On 04.05.2012 13:13, Rob Scott wrote: The MXI 4.3 freeware product comes with a REXX interface - it returns the information that would have

Re: SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY

2012-05-04 Thread David Betten
Try this in your SYSIN //SYSIN    DD *    INDD(INDD1,OPTIONS(DUMP))    OUTDD(OUTDD1,TYPE(14:15)) DATE(2012125,2012125) /* In my example, the job would select only records from today. Change the 125 to the day you need to select. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance

Re: SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY

2012-05-04 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
John, try something like: INDD(IN,OPTIONS(DUMP)) DATE(2012108,2012108) OUTDD(OUT,TYPE(70:78)) The date parm is what you need. Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Any simple tool to monitor the storage uasge ?

2012-05-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Maybe you could write a function that reads the control blocks of the z/OS storage management queues and computes the overall size of the used storage blocks, per subpool? If you call this function somewhere in a loop in your main program, you could discover if one of your subroutines allocates

Re: SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY

2012-05-04 Thread John Dawes
David,   I am trying out the suggestions made by you and Mary Anne .  Thanks. From: David Betten bet...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:42 AM Subject: Re: SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY Try this in your SYSIN //SYSIN    DD *   

Re: STCBSST bit of STCBFLG1 of STCB DSECT

2012-05-04 Thread Peter Relson
A correction, courtesy of Jim: STCBSST is on only when subspace information is being propagated from a mother task to a daughter task. Thus the mother task can be actively using a subspace and not have STCBSST on. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5625217423916820.wa.wkkelleyoptonline@bama.ua.edu, on 05/03/2012 at 08:46 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net said: Any comments/criticisms/suggestions? Suggestion: allow .MSGOPTION to enable writing the verbose message lines to SYSLOG/OPERLOG. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Any simple tool to monitor the storage uasge ?

2012-05-04 Thread Rob Scott
The VSMLIST service presents this information in a slightly more digestible form and it will also get the appropriate locks for the caller if you use LINKAGE=SYSTEM It is what MXI uses under the covers for reporting on private or common subpool usage. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software

Re: SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY

2012-05-04 Thread Williamson, James R
I like the program DAF on CBTTAPE.ORG. It can select records by data set name and date. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SELECTING SMF

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 May 2012 22:03:03 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net wrote: If the new MPFLSTxx option has it disabled by default or enables the verbose messages, what purpose does the OCE_ABEND_DESCRIP=YES serve in DEVSUPxx? The DEVSUPxx external has been deprecated and replaced by the

Re: active IODF data set

2012-05-04 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
Thanks for the help. That was exactly what I needed. Brad Wissink Information Technology Services Iowa State University 515-294-3088 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bonaduce, Frank Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 3:53 PM To:

Re: SELECTING SMF RECORDS FOR 1 DAY

2012-05-04 Thread Staller, Allan
Control statements look good to me. Change the BLKSIZE on OUTDD1 to 27998 i.e. ...DCB=(recfm=vbs,lrecl=32760,blksize=27998) Increase the space allocation. There are an awful lot of type14/15 records cut. Michael Cleary's DAF (CBT FILE 094) will be helpful here to decode the records. Don't

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 May 2012 03:57:24 -0500, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote: I realize that CPUs are a lot faster than they have ever been, but using the resources on frivolous things like keeping people from having to look up a message by always printing the verbose text is silly.

Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Lopez, Sharon
We are turning on 1 engine this weekend to one of our processors; we are going from a 2097-604 to a 2097-605. Our IBM CE says that it will not need a Power-on-Reset (POR). We are not changing the weights for the lpars within the HMC; we are leaving them as is. How can we verify that the actual

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Thomas Conley
On 5/3/2012 9:48 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: In z/OS R13, DFSMS changed approximately 400 of their rather cryptic IEC error messages to include additional lines of explanation. Feedback from R13 ESP customers indicated that the additional lines of explanation were appreciated for end-users but

Re: active IODF data set

2012-05-04 Thread Roland Kinsman
Chip, Thanks for mentioning IPLINFO, I didn't know about it. I learn so much by reading this list! -Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Srivastava, Rajesh
You will have to issue very online command for the added CPU. Issue D M=CPU to verify. You will have to apply auth codes incase you have vendor products which have auth codes depending on machine model. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 4 May 2012 14:39:29 +, Lopez, Sharon wrote: We are turning on 1 engine this weekend to one of our processors; we are going from a 2097-604 to a 2097-605. ... How can we verify that the actual physical engine has been turned on? Is there a MVS display that will show this or somewhere

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
I am wy into territory I know nothing about here but doesn't D M=CPU show this? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lopez, Sharon Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Engine increase

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Chip Grantham
If I'm not mistaken, the HCD profile for the image will need to have spare CPUs defined for the add to work. Chip Grantham | Ameritas | Sr. IT Consultant | cgrant...@ameritas.com 5900 O Street, Lincoln NE 68510 | p: 402-467-7382 | c: 402-429-3579 | f: 402-325-4030 From:

Re: Strip column 1 from reports

2012-05-04 Thread Roland Kinsman
I wrote a REXX program to take SYSOUT with ANSI control characters and generates an XML file. It comes out looking very nice in MS-Word. From there I print it to PDF using PDF Creator. I'm attaching the source for the REXX, as well as the XML Style Sheet that it references. To run the REXX

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread McKown, John
Wouldn't it depend on how the LPAR is defined? If you've have 4 CP defined in the partition definition, and no reserve(?) CPs defined, can you dynamically CF a 5th CP online? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N.

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/3/2012 7:15 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: If the new MPFLSTxx option has it disabled by default or enables the verbose messages, what purpose does the OCE_ABEND_DESCRIP=YES serve in DEVSUPxx? What if you want the original behavior? I ask, because I like it. I also like the current behavior.

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Skip Robinson
On the z10 (2097) and up, you can dynamically make a new CP available to an LPAR via the HMC. Once that is done, the z/OZ CONFIG command can be issued. Be careful to follow through completely with all steps. We added an engine a while back, but it went offline at the next regular IPL, and we

Re: Strip column 1 from reports

2012-05-04 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Roland, Are you aware of TXT2PDF? That's a free REXX tool to convert mainframe reports into well - formatted PDF reports/files, optionally with greenbar background. It was originally part of Lyonel Dyck's XMITIP Email package. See http://homerow.net/rexx/txt2pdf/ Regards, Ulrich Krueger

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
I am pretty sure the answer is: NO. However you don't need a POR, changing the LPAR's definitions and a deactivate/activate of the LPAR will do. Kees. McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote in message news:a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom. .. Wouldn't

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Skip Robinson
I was in the ESP and joined the follow-on conversations about the increased message traffic. The concern was not about a weightier syslog/operlog, but about the even denser weed patch that one has to wade through in syslog/operlog in order to troubleshoot some other totally unrelated problem.

Re: Engine increase on the 2097

2012-05-04 Thread McKown, John
That's why I was ignorant. I'm stuck forever on an old z9BC. I lust after a z114 or z196. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com *

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread McKown, John
I would love some software, preferable hosted on z/OS, which could do a context sensitive search of the syslog/operlog. Along with a __good__ repository. There may be such a thing already. I would know because we are a dying shop. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 May 2012 08:56:38 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: I like the solution. The installation can turn verbose on or off globally. The new 'filter' allows us to direct long explanations to just the programmer--my preference--or to syslog/operlog. Why complain about 'too

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 May 2012 08:42:37 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 5/3/2012 7:15 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: If the new MPFLSTxx option has it disabled by default or enables the verbose messages, what purpose does the OCE_ABEND_DESCRIP=YES serve in DEVSUPxx? What if you want

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 8:56 AM, Skip Robinson wrote: I like the solution. The installation can turn verbose on or off globally. The new 'filter' allows us to direct long explanations to just the programmer--my preference--or to syslog/operlog. Why complain about 'too much control'? You misunderstood.

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 7:52 AM, Thomas Conley wrote: I think the MPFLST option should be something like JOBLOG, SYSLOG, or BOTH. That should satisfy the needs of all parties. My choice would be BOTH. Thanks again for this enhancement. I like this idea. However, I would caution against the use of

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Skip Robinson
Touche. Since I don't want verbosity in my syslog/operlog, I failed to notice the consequence for those who might. The original intent of explanatory messages was to assist the programmer or production control person or whoever has responsibility for fixing the problem to better understand the

It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
and the dinosaurs are very hungry. I need to migrate 50 Solaris servers to zLinux under z/VM on a z114 and about the same number of Windows servers to zBx. Does anyone have experience with this, some ideas? Need a migration path. Some questions: Can z114 be upgraded to include zBx or must I

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 11:01 AM, George Henke wrote: I need to migrate 50 Solaris servers to zLinux under z/VM on a z114 and about the same number of Windows servers to zBx. Congratulations! You wanna come share your experience at SHARE in Anaheim in August? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
ty. I would, but I doubt it will have been completed by then. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: On 5/4/2012 11:01 AM, George Henke wrote: I need to migrate 50 Solaris servers to zLinux under z/VM on a z114 and about the same number of Windows

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 11:10 AM, George Henke wrote: ty. I would, but I doubt it will have been completed by then. OK. We'll 'pencil' you in for San Francisco in February... :-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
I will remind you On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: On 5/4/2012 11:10 AM, George Henke wrote: ty. I would, but I doubt it will have been completed by then. OK. We'll 'pencil' you in for San Francisco in February... :-) -- Edward E Jaffe

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Pace
I can answer one question. Yes you can connect a zBX to a z114, it does not require a z196. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: I will remind you On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 5/4/2012 11:10 AM, George

xpeditor

2012-05-04 Thread Ron Thomas
Hello, We are debugging a cics programin that there is assembler protected module, while in xpedtor this calls fails where as i we use CEDX then it is working fine. In xpeditor is there a way where we can execute the module without doing a trap. I tried by skipping the call to this

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . . and the dinosaurs are very hungry. I need to migrate 50

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
tyvm, John, Mark, Edward. Mark, Do I need an Enterprise Class z114 box or will a Business Class one suffice? John, A compelling reason for server consolidation on zBx as IBM pointed out in their z Summit is that zMIPS GCPs are totally dedicated to regular workload processing, no I/O - that is

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Post
On 5/4/2012 at 02:01 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: I need to migrate 50 Solaris servers to zLinux under z/VM on a z114 and about the same number of Windows servers to zBx. Does anyone have experience with this, some ideas? Some. If you've decided to use SLES on System z, then

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Post
On 5/4/2012 at 02:55 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: Do I need an Enterprise Class z114 box or will a Business Class one suffice? There are no such things. IBM marketing confusing things again. A z114 could be considered the equivalent of a BC model and the z196 and EC model.

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Kerneels de Wet
No disrespect but this looks a little like what the Fox channel dishes up for us on a daily basis: a) You post a message on IBMMAIN stating that you are starting a project but have no idea how to do it b) You use a nameless email account with a cellphone number listed as Poughkeepsie , NY c)

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
I do not suppose there is any way of sharing a zBx between 2 CECs. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: On 5/4/2012 at 02:55 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: Do I need an Enterprise Class z114 box or will a Business Class one suffice? There are no such

Re: active IODF data set

2012-05-04 Thread Kenneth Barkhau
Hello - Many years ago I used dynamic allocation' to allocate a dataset from an assembler program. In order to issue the DYNALLOC macro (I believe that it is still documented in z/OS JOB MGMT) you must setup values in 'RB' request block, 'RBPTR' request block pointer, 'TU' text unit and ''TUPL'

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Ken Porowski
I think the way it works is that you have a 'zEnterprise CEC' which is composed of a z114/z196 and optionally a zBX . The zBX is not standalone -- This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary,

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Tom Ambros
To be pedantic You have a zEnterprise node, which is a z196/z114 with zero or one attached zBX. A zBX may have one to four frames. You can couple up to eight nodes. This comprises the domain of a single zManager. I suppose you could get clever and set up some sort of recovery and

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Ford
George, Done a lot of migrations never Solaris to Z/vm and z/Linux...amen..we Dino's are now smiling, victory...one thought, anyone done disk or cycle benchmarks ? Or is this a slam dunk, been there too, but one needs to plan..not sure what the total picture of your situation is... But

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Pace
Yeah and? A) - happens all the time. management buys into a sales pitch and next thing you know your plowing new ground. B) - Yeah, so? C) - They are trying to find information just like everyone else. D) - ?? I just don't the FOX channel reference. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Kerneels de

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:30 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 5/4/2012 7:52 AM, Thomas Conley wrote: I think the MPFLST option should be something like JOBLOG, SYSLOG, or BOTH. That should satisfy the needs of all parties. I like this idea. However, I would caution against the use of the word

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We have some experience here regarding developing portable C applications targetting z/OS mainframes (which should be little or no difference to z/VM and z/Linux) and Solaris on Sparc. Our experience is: the Sparc hardware is more critical than the z hardware, for example, a pointer to int or

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 1:22 PM, Mark Pace wrote: I just don't the FOX channel reference. I assumed this was a reference to Hell's Kitchen since they serve duck on that show and it is on FOX. Otherwise, I'm stumped... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El

Re: active IODF data set

2012-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 May 2012 16:08:30 -0400, Kenneth Barkhau wrote: Many years ago I used dynamic allocation' to allocate a dataset from an assembler program. In order to issue the DYNALLOC macro (I believe that it is still documented in z/OS JOB MGMT) you must setup values in 'RB' request block, 'RBPTR'

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 1:31 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Another source of problems might be the different character set; the Sparc machine uses ASCII. Linux on z also uses ASCII. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Ford
Aren't we here to help colleagues who need the help and assistance ? I understand there's a fine line between eloping and be used bad abused ..been there done that haver numerous tshirts Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On May 4, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Kerneels de Wet

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Post
On 5/4/2012 at 04:31 PM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote: Another source of problems might be the different character set; the Sparc machine uses ASCII. But the endianness of the integers is the same (big endian). Linux on System z is also ASCII, so no character set / code

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
The wisdom of Anton (Kerneels here) is generally well mixed in with much that is superfluous to the actual conversation. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On

Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread John Norgauer
We have a dataset that is as follows: Management class . . :,**None**, ,,Allocated cylinders :,114 Storage class . . . :,**None**, ,,Allocated extents . :,4 ,Volume serial . . . :,SGP103, , ,,, , ,Device type . . . . :,3390, ,, , Data class . . . . . :,**None**, ,, ,

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Ken Porowski
Try FBA and BLKSIZE=0 -- This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, CIT), and are

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread McKown, John
Did you change the RECFM from FA to FBA? FA says unblocked and won't allow BLKSIZE of anything other than 133. Optimal on 3390 should be 27930. But I just use DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0,DSORG=PS) and allow DFP to determine the best BLKSIZE. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
If it is setup in your shop, set blksize to 0 and let the system determine block size figure it out. Lizette -Original Message- From: John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu Sent: May 4, 2012 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Old timer question We have a dataset that is

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Williamson, James R
Do you need to specify FBA rather than FA? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 3:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Old timer question We have a dataset that is as follows:

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:48:16 -0700, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: If it is setup in your shop, set blksize to 0 and let the system determine block size figure it out. Lizette Is there a way to not have it set up? I do remember an MVS system long ago in a galaxy far far away

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread John Norgauer
Oops, it;'s Friday I forgot to change FA to FBA. Thanks. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mark, it should be, but I have heard of shops that may not allow this to be in place. So I erred on the side of caution. ;-D Lizette -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com Sent: May 4, 2012 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Old timer question On Fri, 4 May

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Skip Robinson
I think SDB is automatic these days, and not just for SMS data sets. Any data set will get SDB if BLKSIZE is zero or omitted. One note, however. Just changing the DCB characteristics of the data set will not fix the problem. Existing data already contained in the allocation will still be FA

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 1:55 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: Is there a way to not have it set up? I do remember an MVS system long ago in a galaxy far far away where there was a JES2 exit that changed the internal text from your JCL to have half track blocking for DASD. But BLKSIZE=0 has worked since... well,

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article 4fa41a98.9020...@phoenixsoftware.com you write: Congratulations! You wanna come share your experience at SHARE in Anaheim in August? Which August? 2013, 2014, 20. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Ford
Yeah Dave, I also think a lot of managers , who lack technical expertise get sold ideas, like someone else said. Been there also...about 100 Advil headache ...I was told by a very wise Irish woman, my mom, don't use your head for a hat rack... Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 3:01 PM, Rich Greenberg wrote: In article4fa41a98.9020...@phoenixsoftware.com you write: Congratulations! You wanna come share your experience at SHARE in Anaheim in August? Which August? 2013, 2014, 20. Lol! August 2012 is Anaheim. August 2013 is Boston. August 2014 and

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread John Gilmore
I have firsthand, personal knowledge of just one successful Scandinavian project in which even more ambitious server-virtualization goals were set and met; but one successful project---conducted by serious, highly competent people---does establish the feasibility of such an undertaking. It is

/usr/lpp

2012-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Unimportant question, probably, but I've long wondered...  What exactly does lpp stand for in this instance? Frank -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: /usr/lpp

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 4:02 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Unimportant question, probably, but I've long wondered... What exactly does lpp stand for in this instance? I have long assumed it stood for 'licensed program products'. But I know not for sure... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software

Re: /usr/lpp

2012-05-04 Thread Rob Schramm
Confirmed! Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 5/4/2012 4:02 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Unimportant question, probably, but I've long wondered...  What exactly does lpp stand for in this

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
With all due respect Kerneels, I may indeed smell like a duck, quack like a duck, look like a duck, and walk like a duck, but I am not a duck. I represent a real entity which does not wish to telegraph its moves to the competition, so I use my personal email. That entity currently owns a z196

Re: /usr/lpp

2012-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Given this is IBM, that sounds like a very good assumption.  They must have a very interesting department of naming things. Frank From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: /usr/lpp

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
John, At IBM's z Summit Road Show they cite Bank of India and Bank of China and numerous others with cost savings of 1/3 or more. Server consolidation vis-a-vis virtualization is the rage these days. And this one is real too. I do live in the vicinity of IBM, and even worked there in the

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I know little about nothing in this regard, but given a zBx with an Intel processor (that, along with POWER7, is available right?), I can't see why you'd have to recompile anything.  And in fact, could you not run Windows, Linux for Intel, and Solaris for Intel on zBx?  Wouldn't you just be

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
Right :-) On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: In article 4fa41a98.9020...@phoenixsoftware.com you write: Congratulations! You wanna come share your experience at SHARE in Anaheim in August? Which August? 2013, 2014, 20. -- Rich Greenberg

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
Frank, Solaris is not supported under zBX. So the workaround is to move it to zLinux under z/VM which is even better because it will be running on the MF not the zBX side. There it will have much more efficient use of the GCP, no GCP cycles used for I/O. This is especially nice when you

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
Mark, This one is real. Management has no choice or they would not be doing it, the competition is doing it. It's an idea whose time has come. Thank you very much also for your earlier technical advice. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah and? A)

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
Thomas, This is very helpful. When you say You can couple up to eight nodes, do you mean 8 CECs to a zBx, that 8 CECs can share a zBx? If so, does zManager serialize the I/O? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Tom Ambros thomas_amb...@keybank.comwrote: To be pedantic You have a

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread George Henke
Thank you very much, Mark, for the very helpful info. Right now, we are running RHEL and it looks like the Solaris migration will be to that. Does SLES have better support? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: On 5/4/2012 at 02:01 PM, George Henke

Re: /usr/lpp

2012-05-04 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Licensed Program Products. i.e., IBM separate products: COBOL, C, etc. Lloyd - Original Message From: Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, May 4, 2012 7:02:44 PM Subject: /usr/lpp Unimportant question, probably, but I've long wondered...

Re: STCBSST bit of STCBFLG1 of STCB DSECT

2012-05-04 Thread Justin R. Bendich
A correction, courtesy of Jim: STCBSST is on only when subspace information is being propagated from a mother task to a daughter task. Thus the mother task can be actively using a subspace and not have STCBSST on. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design I'm sorry to be such a bother, but...

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Kerneels de Wet
George, Are you sure you are not working for the Fox channel because you just said: a) you HAVE TO do this project because your opposition is doing it b) but based on your questions, you are not sure how, what and when all this has to work together c) and now, you are trying to tell us, we

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/4/2012 6:11 PM, George Henke wrote: When you say You can couple up to eight nodes, do you mean 8 CECs to a zBx, that 8 CECs can share a zBx? Each node has its own zBX. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318