I had something to do with that.
Grinch ;-)
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. Whether it's legal to do that is a matter for the
courts. Whether it is ethical for a vendor to do that should be obvious.
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you are staling resources.
This is no different than bypassing the electric meter in your house.
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and production in the same Sysplex. If the PDSE limitation is
onerous, go back to PDSs.
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If you use RACF to control SDSF access then 2 should work fine. If you use
ISFPARMS and don't have RACF set up to control spool access then 1 is
probably what you want. We use 2, but since we're a development shop we don't
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to take up the
slack. The last year has been difficult for all HW and SW vendors. IBM may be
handling the economic downturn better than most.
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concerned with money; not bits and bytes. Perhaps you could write an article
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What is CHANNEL MEASUREMENT BLOCK FACILITY
The initial drop of the 1.10 books did not include Data Areas. Later drops do
contain them.
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down to personal preference. I think VB is a
PITA, so I never use it. IBM, and most vendors, ship FB format for Rexx and
clists. If you like VB, and don't need to concatenate with FB, there is no
compelling reason to change.
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I don't understand why the vendors are populating the libraries in PDSE
If any of the features of Program Objects are required, then PDSEs are
mandatory, i.e., Program Objects cannot reside in PDSs. I suspect the majority
of vendors use PDSs unless their code requires PDSEs.
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available on a
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He also became chairman of the Data Storage Architecture Board which
designed the blueprint for what later became DFSMS.
But IIRC, the primary designer was Jack Gelb with assistance from Ed Duray.
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but no longer
complete.
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The help function in SDSF has
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Yes. We do.
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ENTER OPTION -- DSN=SYS1.LINKLIB,VOL=SER=RZ110A MEM=IEFSD095
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If the center is not based in the US or Canada, then I will avoid the
product like the plague.
Unfortunately that means you won't be buying much.
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Is that even possible for 1980 era hardware
They probably stored old equipment that can be cannibalized for parts. I'm sure
IBM doesn't stock parts that old.
This will probably be advertised as another getting off the mainframe story.
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is there a way to keep job output only if the RC 0 ?
If you have some type of automation, you can periodically start a batch job
that uses the SDSF Rexx interface to check the RC and delete what isn't wanted.
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As it says, you have probably specified the wrong directory on the SMPDIR DD
statement. It would be helpful to see your JCL and a directory listing.
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but was blank on doing things which were not pre-packaged
Welcome to the future of systems programming :-(
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Guilty, although I came from application development.
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Isn't serialization also a possible problem if doing your own chaining?
The OP indicated chaining was done with Compare Swap.
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the CICS transaction than Getmain/Freemain.
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Not sure what the 'SE' is
SE is Space Efficient:. We write code to exploit it, but we don't use it for
any practical purpose.
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So add that to the list of IEFU83 issues...I think there was one mentioned
at Share, mainstar maybe?
The Mainstar code was fixed before GA. Frankly, since SDS provided also
provided a fix, I would consider this a user error.
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There are no RACF messages logged and the RACF police assure me we're
RACF authorized.
I think Hayim has given you the correct answer. Have the RACF police display
the TSOAUTH class. You should look over their shoulder when they do it.
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BCPii is supposed to work on any CEC supported by z/OS 1.1, which means
z900 or later. So yes, your z890 should be fine.
Z890 is not supported. A z9 or higher is required.
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The owner is a lawyer and is a billionaire, give or take. This was expected.
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of Connect Direct bears no relevance to the
hardware problem.
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The system would have to be long-lasting
It will be difficult to be longer-lasting than forty years. I blame management
for not incrementally modernizing the existing system and not moving to a HLL
years ago.
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In other words more lipstick is being applied here. When are they going to
realize that it's a pig ?
Hard to argue ... :-))
So what's your alternative? Abandon Java on Z?
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We have ended up staying on Jobtrac 3.5 due to the horrible issues with
Jobtrac 11.0
No software and no vendor is perfect. Have you worked with the vendor to
resolve the issues? There are a number of forum participants from CA. I suspect
one of them will take ownership of the issue.
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Does this imply that zAAPs will become obsolete?
I think it implies that creating multiple specialty engines was a mistake, and
that one program specialty engine will suffice. I don't see zAAPs becoming
obsolete in the foreseeable future.
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If the dynamic steplib that stopped working was STEPLIB, an updated version
that works with 1.11 (and earlier) is available on the CBT Tape.
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works great.
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Is there any space in your TSO pool?
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I used Queue and thought it was a great tool. Then came IOF. Then came SDSF.
Goodbye Queue.
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I'll take the reliability (of PDS's) any day of the week
I prefer PDSs as well, but the irony is that the unreliability of PDSs lead to
the PDSPAIN White Paper which (in part) lead to PDSEs.
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What does it means an at-sign (@) at the end of a constant?
I sometimes use an @ to indicate an address. It's just a convention.
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Any idea what Mike is going to do? He had been working on decimal arithmetic.
He's clearly too young and too talented to completely retire.
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mainframe would locate the data (possibly staging to disk) and load dasd
channel program into the hyperchannel device adapter
That's exactly what Cray's Superlink product did. It used MVS as a data
server, data manager, for the Cray.
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We had problems with IKJEFLN2 with OPERCMDS active. It required additional
code, which unfortunately I can't share. I believe Gilbert St Fleur has a
version for sale. z/OS 1.11 obviates the need for the exit.
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I still amazed that dos has continued to hang on to this day
15-20 years ago there were over 35,000 VSE licenses. That's a large business
segment to kill off. That's a lot of hardware sales to abandon.
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I don't know C, but our developers use:
/usr/include/metal/stddef.h
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it. I don't know who he current auditors
are, but at least some of them can be reasonable.
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I think with one lock per LPAR zone
Is an LPAR zone different than an LPAR?
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I benchmarked pre-processing panels years ago and found sufficient measurable
results to justify doing it. As an ISPF user I couldn't tell the difference.
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What was the historical price of a P/390?
But could I interrupt this (IMHO) strange fixation on one-time hardware
acquisition prices?
Don't forget that the zPDT is available to developers. It's in the spirit of
the P390 although the implementation is completely different.
Bob
IBM's position seems to be that you can hit PFK1, so why do you need a manual
It's the OS/2 mentality.
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to audit our
software every year. Usually we found some things we weren't paying for, and
some other things that we were billed for but didn't use. Does IBM still do
this for commercial customers?
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It must be Friday.
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? Any other gotchas like that.
Thanks in advance for your time.
At the risk of being a grinch, you should consider hiring someone to write the
code you need. This is not the place for trial and error.
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successor to the P390, but frankly it too will be more expensive
than using the Dallas system. If you can't afford the Dallas system then I
really doubt you could have afforded any of the inexpensive solutions that IBM
provided.
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We applied the APAR. We protect the SMP data. I'm sort of baffled why IBM felt
SAF support was necessary for SMPE.
Since we are a development shop in which dozens of people use SMPE, we simply
set the access to UACC(READ) which gives everyone access to all of the SMP/E
commands.
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I'd be mildly curious to know where the requirement came from.
I'll bet you a beer at the Boston SHARE that it came from the zBLC.
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Yes, it can. But it is easiest if you take the DFDSS output file and use
AMATERSE on it. This makes it into a FB/1024 dataset, which is very simple to
ftp as BINARY, even if it passes through a non-z intermediate node.
This is exactly what we do.
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We use VTMF. I can't compare it to anything else, but it works fine for us.
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Of course. (and no one can argue (or has any courage) with Walt Farrell!
It's hard to argue when one doesn't know what the problem was and how the
solution was implemented. Of course that won't stop the folks on this list.
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I'm trying to write some authorized code that has a requirement to invoke
unauthorized user exits.
Use SYNCH. Assume all data received from the exit is untrusted and insure the
caller verifies it. Caller can save addresses on behalf of the exit.
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Yep.
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Smart Analytics Optimizer has been announced. If you look at how it works you
should see the potential similar functions.
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:BMC reveals 'free money' mainframe and DB2 tools
:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/24/bmc_ziiper_tools/
Is it any different than z/Prime?
It sounds like they have coded to the zIIP API.
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If IBM selectively blesses these programs, listen for the doorbell 'cause
the FTC antitrust squad will be visiting.
Why do you say that? IBM has made the API available to all vendors who sign an
NDA. There is no charge for the documentation or for the API itself. What's the
problem?
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My old Casio no longer displays and I will need to replace it.
Why not buy the same calculator on Ebay?
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Maybe it's not HIPER because research shows nobody but me uses PDSE. ;-)
Unfortunately we have tons of them.
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As someone else previously suggested, look at the GRS exit points IBM provides.
They were created so that vendors don't need to frontend the SVCs or PCs.
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moved from SVCs to PCs, vendors need to hook the PCs to provide equivalent
function. If vendors stop hooking PCs, the vendor product goes away. Probably
not good for either the customer or the vendor.
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the RACF id of the job
would normally not have access to.
Unlikely. If one omits the disposition it defaults to NEW which requires an
exclusive enqueue. I've seen a lot of systems hungup because of this.
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I hate to be contrarian, but since everyone can change their emulator to
display fields in any color they want, why bother?
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Ed,
There were separate products released for MVS, VM, and VSE. All were
released
There were separate products released for MVS, VM, and VSE. All were released
in 1983.
There was also a version for CICS. I don't know when it became available.
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Maybe I have a post-retirement second career path as a sales/marketing person?
Not a chance. You have too much integrity.
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done).
If you are more concerned about diagnosing the problem, revue syslog and logrec
from the previous Wednesday. If the library is a PDS it's possible you have a
damaged directory block. Run the VERIFY option of PDS. If the library is a
PDSE, look for APARS.
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Right now because of the bug I wrote about in a previous post, it just
takes a lot more
planning than it should have
What was the resolution of the Sev 1? BAD? I can understand something not
working correctly, but I can't understand it not working correctly forever.
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, MS would demand pay per MIP as well!
Come to think of it, I think MS uses pay per seat for this arrangement just
to make it undesirable.
I thought you saved your rants for Fridays.
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slam dunks maintenance and upgrades on all systems simultaneously,
it's unlikely to happen. At the request of our developers, in a four-way
Sysplex, we run three systems at N and one at N-1. In six years we haven't seen
a JES problem due to the release level.
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I need to know what the expected setting of the CVTDCB field (CVT + X'74')
is on a z/OS V1R9 system.
Looks like it's been X'9B' for a long time.
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I couldn't find any reporting facilities ... In particular the .SMP files look
binary stuff
Are there any ? Any help on getting me started ?
There is no reporting facility.
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4. Upload (IND$FILE) binary to a sequential dataset (same DCB as from Step 2)
5. Unterse the file (Same DCB as in Step 1)
6. RECEIVE the input file to create a PDS
I haven't used IND$FILE in years so I may have missed something.
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We have two z890s (in addition to a z9 and a z10). They provide cheap MIPS. DB2
V10 will run on an z/890/z990 (but not on an z800/z900). However, both of the
older classes of machines are stabilized so far as adding features is
concerned.
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But I have SYSLOG proof that both UCBs are online at the same time, with the
same
VOLSER.
I've never seen this happen, and didn't think it could happen. I'd like to see
proof that this occurred.
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and needs help, that's one thing, but some of
these requests strike me as being downright lazy.
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Did you open an issue with IBM? That should be step one.
Isn't 1.9 unsupported now?
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If it's unsupported where did he get the RSU? And is there a more current RSU
that he can
get from the same source?
One can order maintenance for unsupported releases, one just can't open
problems.
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, and a billion or
so hackers worldwide, the risks are higher than ever.
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And I'd heard SHARE Collection of Inebriates, Drunkards, and Sots
That's the definition I'd heard, but I don't think anyone really knows what
SCIDS stands for.
Q: What does SHARE stand for?
A: SHARE is not an acronym. It stood for sharing information.
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these were not malicious
implementations.
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For example, can z/OS 1.6 run on hardware without it?
Extended immediate instructions were introduced on Freeway (i.e., z800/z900)
processors. Operating systems prior to 1.6 could run on 9672 processors. 1.6
requires a Freeway processor. 1.6 went out of service 9/30/2007.
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unreliable. A couple of weeks ago
I opened a problem and they said they had a problem open with the developer.
Testing doesn't seem to be a priority.
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Did you mean you need to explicitly request to use the new behavior by coding
VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)
A lot of early 1.10 customers did not complain. By making 1.9 the default,
customers who want the new behavior will have to code this forever.
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JES2 doesn't
recognize the parameter and prompts the operator for a response. It's described
(sort of) in APAR OA34164.
As one of my guys pointed out, (E)JES had no such problem.
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