Forgot about that one... our SADump build is coded with SYSC only.
Art
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:08:11 -0500, Field, Alan C.
wrote:
>1 - Not necessarily for emergencies. Use it for SAD, which could be
>considered an emergency :)
>...
>Alan
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discus
On 3/29/2011 00:01, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:
> I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System
> Console is actually being used by z/OS customers:
>
> 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the "console of last
> resort"?
>
> 2) How many of you have used it to rec
There's more in the Customization Guide. Since the doc number changed for
V10, and again for V11, I have to believe the V8 book also has a completely
unique doc number. You can find books for all supported releases at:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/debugtool/library/
FYI, there's al
Might be worth looking at the DFSUTL sample shipped in .SDFSSMPL. In
addition to DFSSRB and DFSPRPX0 (Parm Block), we look for DFSRRC00 (Region
Controller) and DFSVC000 (SVC). Probably overkill, with PPT and TIME=1440
in place, but we're a belt-and-suspenders (and baling wire, and duct tape)
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:00:50 -0800, Charles Mills
wrote:
>Yeah, the fact that you can't code &SYSNAME in JCL seems pretty lame.
Seems pretty lame, at least on the surface.
Since JOB C/I and execution are not guaranteed to happen on the same
system in a MAS, if the value for a given symbol is
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:07:27 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush
wrote:
>Yeah, sorry, I've been watching this thread too hoping some listener had
>a trick up their sleeve. Unfortunately I have no suggestions. I
>understand the desire, but SMP/E just doesn't roll that way. That is,
>you can't do to an LM
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:27:02 -0600, Paul Peplinski
wrote:
>For some reason I do not have that customization for DT. However, Hourglass
>presents the same dilemna for DSNXGRDS and CEEPLPKA.
IBM's Application Time Facility (formerly ISOGON's TICTOC) is another one.
Regards,
Art
-
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:18:08 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
wrote:
>I would like to detect if an LMOD gets changed. Obviously I can UCL UMID
>every CSECT, but that will not let me know if a new CSECT is added.
So far, everyone seems to have missed that the OP wants to be able to
detect an LMOD change
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:21:31 -0800, Donnelly, John P
wrote:
>...we need to start the IBM-MAIN equivalent of the Darwin Awards...
Tom M. once told me a story about the DD DUMMY of the Day/Week/Year
awards at a past shop. I think there was a plaque or a trophy that went
along with it...
Cheers
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:25:43 -0500, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>Do I have to IPL without the BPXPRMV6 Entry? (My IEASYSxx says OMVS=
(A1,A2)
>so the V6 is not there) or is there another way other than IPL to remove
>the definition for IPv6?
>
>The definition was very simply right out of the book
>
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:00:03 -0600, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>Even at the first GA release (2.0) one of the first steps after install is to
>import the MSM CSI into MSM so you can maintain the product. Installing
>maintenance and deploying it is an extremely somple process.
>
>You can't upgrade rel
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:04:13 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari
wrote:
>I would like to know the last status of the IEFACTRT and IEFYS routine
>to write to the JOBLOG (JESMSGLG).
>Still it is the only way to write to JESMSGLG ?
>Any option to get the messages with at last 1/100 sec time stamps ?
We don'
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:28:16 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A
wrote:
>Actually, you have to use their installation application to produce a 9GB tree
which you then must transfer to OMVS.
>What PC utility did you use to ftp the entire tree and preserve its structure
and long path names? We don't use N
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:16:10 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
wrote:
>>If I read it correctly, the tar is as-distributed on the DVD, so if that was
>>not
>>built properly to begin with, windoze is the only drop for the "untar".
>
>I read it otherwise. From the OP:
>
>On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 17:50:47 -08
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:56:01, Paul Gilmartin
wrote:
>
>So why does SAS not deliver the product in a *.pax.Z archive built
>on z/OS and verified to be usable on z/OS rather than leaving it
>to the customers' ingenuity to manufacture one?
>
If you really want to have some fun, you should try the
Lizette and Gentle readers,
Please disregard my previous post - I did not catch the new thread under the
the revised subject line before I replied.
Mea culpa,
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:42:48 -0500, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>I am trying to understand why a job is not being selected for execution in
JES2 (z/OS V1.11)
>
>In SDSF I see in that colume AWAIT MAIN SELECT
>
>I have tried searching in JES2 manuals, goggling it and not finding much.
>
>What does th
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:27:10 -0600, Dana Mitchell
wrote:
>On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:38:52 -0600, Arthur Gutowski
> wrote:
>
>>##OPTIONS 01 NYYY <= this is the
>>switch
>
>Art,
>
>What column is that last 'Y' in
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:34:27 -0500, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>If SAS is just being used as a report writer, then there are any number of
good replacements, but they just need to have someone code them.
>
>Easytrive, CA-EARL, Cobol, PL/I, etc...
Doesn't SyncSort also have report writing capabilit
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:57:00 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
wrote:
>You forgot to mention that they don't believe in SMP/E.
>
>How does this compare with CA's recent innovations?
Tough call. Don't believe in it vs. have to front-end it because it's rules
aren't
fully understood. To be fair, though,
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:43:28 -0500, Dan Blake
wrote:
>We are getting ready to install SAS base, Graph, ETS, FSP and ACCESS.
>Anyone experience issues with the installation? How long on average did it
>take?
Funny you should ask. I've been working on 9.2 TS2M3 for about 3 months
now. This
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:46:23 -0600, Dana Mitchell
wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:46:32 -0600, Ron Wells
>wrote:
>> 2. I also gather a Started tasks can be setup to do the sweeps instead of
>>Batch process.(or together) and the Started Task is governed by
>>parm's/Control cards as when to wake u
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:35:02 -0600, Staller, Allan
wrote:
>2) an OMVS couple dataset would only be needed if there are multiple
>images sharing HFS/ZFS files, See the "Setting up a SYSPLEX" books (I
>believe this is a redbook)
Depending on the size of the shop, there may be some advantages in s
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:51:17, Jaco Kruger
wrote:
>We are in the process of upgrading from a z900 to a Z9. Bothr CECs contain a
>Production CF LPAR, Production and Development LPAR. The second CEC also
>contains 2 Sandbox CF LPARs and 2 Sandbox LPARs.
>
>We want to move 1 Sandbox CF LPAR and 1 Sa
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:49:47, Timothy Sipples
wrote:
>[much of Timothy's Book of Mainframes, Chapter 4 deleted]
>It's *not* IBM's or HOD's fault if your administrator(s) choose to disable
>functions you need!
Apparently, I touched a nerve. Point well taken. You are right, this is out
of
the
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:09:19 -0600, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>So until you can mount an uncataloged HFS or zFS, the maintenance version
>will always need to have a different name, regardless of indirect
>cataloging of the run-time version.
And we still have occasion to mount the alternate volume's FS
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:48:09, Mark Zelden wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:01:58, Arthur Gutowski
wrote:
>> Guess I'm "old school", and I just don't see the need for these R/O FS.
>
>Times change... adapt or become extinct. :-)
I get that. We (Ford
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:16:04, Guy Gardoit wrote:
>No, the rename is done after the copy.
>
>We never IPL the staging volumes either and the clone process are
>full-volumes dumps, using FDR of course, from the staging to the alternate
>resvols. Hence, I need to rename any zFS files that are copi
BTW, Scott, thanks for the pointer. Looked into FDRDSF - dump/restore only
(two-step). FDRCOPY is for disk-to-disk (still TYPE=DSF), and can select
tracks, but CPYVOLID isn't an option in this case, so I'd have to then clip the
destination volume. DSS COPY TRACKS with NOCOPYVOLID just seems
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:41:19 -0500, Pinnacle
wrote:
>Not a big fan of HOD, either. Even the BlueZone plugin, which I abhor, is
>better than that.
Not a big fan, either. JAVA is a pig, and Windoze can't handle the number of
sessions I open. Customization is a pain, and not easily done at the
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:53:29 -0800, Guy Gardoit
wrote:
>[...] I just do full volume copies of the staging resvols to the
>alternates and then do a series of IDCAMS commands to "rename" the staging
>$VERSION ROOT file to one with the first resvol as the last qualifier.
>Works simply and very well
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:40:10, Mark Zelden asked:
>... What's wrong with this:
>
>FDR:
>
[...useful JCL removed for brevity...]
>
>DFSMSdss:
>
[...useful JCL removed for brevity...]
>
>BTW, for the other thread I saw start... this is a DFDSS logical dump. :-)
If you're weird, like us, is that
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Cassandra Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:55 PM
>
> Can anyone recommend a replacement for SAR or CA-View Spool & Job & Log
> Archiving?
>
> Also are there any replacement that m
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:13:12 -0400, Cheryl Walker
wrote:
>Although this email is a little late, a good reference for dependencies at
>start
up and shut down can be found in the MTTR Redbook -
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247816.html?Open. Although the
TCP/IP issue isn't addressed
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:16:24 -0500, Barbara Nitz
wrote:
>Mark,
>
>>1) It is recommended to NOT use IEFUSI for OMVS (I removed it many
>>years ago).
>>2) When I did, I checked for OMVS and skipped writing the messages:
>> CLC 0(4,R5),=C'OMVS'
>> BE SKIPWTO
>
>ehm, my U
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:47:01 -0500, John P Kalinich
wrote:
>The button man has this one...
>
>http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/buttons/button792.jpg
>
Reminds me of something my pappy used to say... but I'll save that for
Anaheim, if I get to go...
Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:11:33 -0700, John Norgauer asks:
>Does your root ZFS exist on your SYSRES or does it get moved after
>receiving it from IBM? Do you rename it to reflect the OS level or
>version?
We bear some elements with other posters thus far, but we definitely have
our own rhythm...
This has been an interesting thread, though it seems to pop up from time to
time here, I always seem to learn some new piece of history or functionality.
As a shop that runs both JES', not because we sell software that must
operate equally well with either, but out of acqusistions and consolidat
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:55:21 -0500, Rick Fochtman
wrote:
>I still have horrible memories of a CEO that ordered me to develop and
>install, via ZAP, the multiple-level alias feature two years before IBM
>provided it. I thought he was going to fire me when I refused, flat out,
>to meddle in Catalo
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:33:34 -0500, Jim Marshall
wrote:
>IBM is Hiring! Interview with us on July 27th in McLean,VA.
>... As the planet becomes smarter, we have a chance to create meaningful
>progress and change the way the world works for the better. At IBM
>Global Business Services the wor
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:29:52 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>If you have an established set of sysres sets you swap between and don't
>need to create a new directory in the root, then it can be RO now. If you
>are going to IPL from a new sysres set, then you would need to change
>the sysplex root to
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:29:36 -0500, Ken Hansen
wrote:
>In former times, Coupling Facility CPU utilizations were reported as High
values (90-100% busy). This made it difficult to determine fail-over
capabilities and was later amended by an IBM APAR the produced more
realistic results. But i
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:50:49 -0500, Dana Mitchell
wrote:
>Tim, Art:
>
>No need to create a secondary JES2, just simply start JES2 with the new
>parms, under your current JES2. If there's syntax errors, you'll be able to
>see
>the messages, if no syntax errors, it will immediately come down:
>
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:52:04 -0400, Tim Brown
wrote:
>Is there a way to syntax JES2 statements
>We are trying a new config, the old one starts ok
>The new one gets the cancel or end option and we cant
>determine the error.
It's always annoyed me that the JES2 developers can't or won't externaliz
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:14:10 -0400, Don Williams
wrote:
>It's been quite a while since we tried GRS star w/DYNDISP=YES (I think it
>was z890 or z9). We had one ICF engine that we shared between a
>production sysplex (DYNDISP=NO) and development sysplex (DYNDISP=YES).
>We tried to use GRS star on
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 19:10:45 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>... Even with a single engine you can create more than one
>CF LPAR and share that engine. As long as you weren't using it for true
>data sharing (like DB2) you would be just fine (especially with the speed of z9
>and z10 engines). I've
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:58:06 -0500, Glen Gasior
wrote:
>*There is theory and there is reality. If you have a shop where the software
>management process is essentially whatever was a good idea at the time,
>software and hardware upgrades will be painfully time consuming unless you
>are willing to
On Sun, 23 May 2010 11:35:27 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>When zFS file systems are mounted R/O in a shared file system environment,
>read requests don't have to be function shipped to the owning system. But
>the same applies to HFS. Is there another performance benefit you are
>referring to?
On Sun, 23 May 2010 15:12:44 +1000, Shane Ginnane wrote:
>In the unlikely event a filesystem is unmounted uncleanly *AND* the
>subsequent mount is changed from R/W to R/O, the
>decision not to run the journal should be the customers.
Has anyone out there quantified the so-called performance ben
On Mon, 17 May 2010 09:38:27 -0500, Roland Schiradin
wrote:
>Tom,
>
>z/OS contains a cblock IPST pointed by ECVTIPST.
>
>This cblock contains information about the IPL time for various steps.
>SHOWzOS display the data and there is also a IPCS command
>but can't remember the name.
>
>Roland
IPLD
Sorry, folks, obviously that was menat for Alan alone. Please disregard
my "clicko".
Thanks,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 05:14:09 -0500, Barbara Nitz
wrote:
>If there are WLM problems, it is fairly easy to unload the current WLM policy,
>come up after IPL with an empty, freshly formatted WLM CDS, and then 'load'
>the policy into it from your saved copy. There may even be a programmatic
>interfa
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:46:26, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>Third, with the restructuring of the way initiators work, where draining an
>init
actually terminates the offending address space underpinning that init, rather
than a random one, we found most of the reasons for the exit disappeared.
Not that
In keeping with the consolidated response (if I'm not losing too much context):
Mark,
Yes, I recall the striping issue you had. I think we can avoid that.
Yes, the alloca
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:08:22 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>BTW, I'm not sure if I mentioned this last year, but they way we shared
>these pools between SMSplexes usually was by having the SMS status
>in the "owning" SMSplex as "ENABLE"" and then the volumes "owned" by
>the other SMSplex in the sha
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:48:32 -0500, Barbara Nitz
wrote:
>Unscientific survey:
>
>How many of you use truly non-SMS-managed LOGR datasets? As in: Using
>the two model data sets and an IEFDB401 exit that specifies the DALLIKE text
>unit?
All SMS-managed, AFAIK. No IEFDB401 exit.
>How many of you
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:59:53 -0700, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
>Or you write some code in HLASM to copy one field to another using the
>MVS instruction...
My favorite! I've used it many times myself. "MoVe Stuff", right?
Art
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:49:17 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>It is at most places (understandably IMO).It probably is at IBM also! So
>are sites like Youtube, but I see vendors put stuff on there all the time
>that I can't get to. Funny... more former employer's CEO put out a
>message for ever
As a wise friend of mine likes to say, "Someone's been eating paint chips
again". I've not seen permanent error rates anywhere near double-digits on
any 3480 (and up). In fact, I still have a 3480 that I used to carry from job-
to-job. It read in just fine when I started here, some 8+ years af
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:58:59 -0400, Don Imbriale
wrote:
>...
>One issue is that in the database of known software sometimes the names
>given to software is not what you might expect and in other cases software
>may be mis-identified.
Sometimes? At our site, *much* of the time.
>Also, when the
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:54:46 -0500, Scott Barry
wrote:
>IBM / Tivoli acquired SoftAudit which had some years back started moving
>away from "systems" to more "enterprise application" asset discovery, with
>various OPEN hooks and an SMF data-capture type agent running on z/OS.
>Most any called,
John,
We use MLAs for two purposes.
We have a SYS1.OMVS alias to ease deployment of z/OS upgrades. In a
nutshell, we still haven't merged our master-catalog-per-image to a sysplex-
common master, and we use SYS1 for version HFS' to keep them out of SMS-
management. I know there are other ways,
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:00:59 -0800, Ed Gould wrote:
>Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/02/ibm_us_job_cuts/
>IBM cuts more than 1,600 US jobs
>Under the reporting radar
>By Timothy Prickett Morgan
>Posted in Servers, 2nd March 2010 16:49 GMT
>IBMers from a number of different divis
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:08:36 +0100, R.S.
wrote:
>Well said. I am accustomed to fact that professor of physics earns much
>less than average soccer player or ex-Big Brother finalist.
Sad, but true.
>Java programmer is not MVS sysprog and vice versa. Market decides who is
>more required. Here in
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:03:33 -0600, Martin Kline
wrote:
>We have a sysplex with four processors, two of which run production work
>with development work on the others. In their quest for trivia, my
>management wants to know the impact to production if we move the
>development processors to a sec
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:18:15 +1000, Shane wrote:
>On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 06:39 -0600, John P Kalinich wrote:
>
>> When we pick teams, I want to be on Barbara's side.
>
>Me too - especially if it should come to pass that she actually gets mad
>at something.
>
>Shane...
Barbara's team is going to h
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:21:02 -0600, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>Good point, but if they are all named uniquely, why would you need
>indirect cataloging at all? (isn't that how everyone does it today)?
>How would the new support enhance what you have today?
Precisely! Spot on, as usual. I see no bene
Agreed, particularly since this is not the first "offense".
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:07 -0600, Blaicher, Chris
wrote:
>I am certainly no prude, and I swear like a sailor, but I refrain from doing
>so
on a public forum.
>
>I have seen plenty of irate rants about any number of things, but they
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:37:12 -0600, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:26:48 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
> wrote:
>
>>>Interesting how different this is from below-the-line...
>>
>>In what respect do you think it is different?
>>
>I don't know what Art will say, [...]
Couldn't have sai
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:43:12 -0600, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>The LDA contains what the sizes are, but I've never updated those
>control blocks directly via IEFUSI.
>
>FWIW, I look at the GDA and for below 16M set region limit to "ALL-512K"
and
>region size to "ALL-64K".There is no real reason t
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:48:30 -0500, Scott Rowe
wrote:
>In my experience, GRS-Star with shared CP CFs is still significantly faster
>(at
least one order of magnitude) than GRS Ring using XCF.
For the group's sake, I should have made the "YMMV" disclaimer. Our N.A.
systems fared much better
I also don't see which LPAR's are part of the Sysplex, and which are not.
Dynamic Dispatch with a CF LPAR is not so much a matter of utilization, but as
Scott suggests, getting the CPU when the CF needs it. We have found that
DynDisp dramatically increases ISGLOCK response times (at least one o
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:29:42 -0600, Chase, John
wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
>>
>> Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it
>> needs an update, I click on "Update". A few minutes later,
>> it tells me to
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:02:46 -0800, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
...
> Documentation updates
> IBM Communications Server:
> IP Configuration Reference
> SC318776
>
> Add the following under FTP.DATA data set statements
>
> READVB (FTP server and client)
>
> Use the READVB stat
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:20:55 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
>Not necessarily true. I know of a number of decent PC vendors who are
entirely local to the US. I've even gotten a Intel i7-920 from one of them
(Zareason) for a very good price. Of course, all my PC purchaces are 100%
Microsoft free. (Li
Sorry, folks, this was meant for offline. Please disregard.
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:12:23 -0500, Arthur Gutowski
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:02:11 -0500, Rick Fochtman
>wrote:
>
>>I agree completely. A VERY thorough post-mortem is required BEFORE any
>>finger-pointing
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:02:11 -0500, Rick Fochtman
wrote:
>I agree completely. A VERY thorough post-mortem is required BEFORE any
>finger-pointing. Then, "Katy bar the door!"
Hockey fan? I don't know the origin of this particular gem, but I do know it's
a
favorite of our local NHL hockey colo
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:53:47 -0700, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
>I have personally not put my userid into a job name in nearly 25 years.
>If I submit a job to compress a PDS, it's called "COMPRESS". That's what
>makes sense to me.
Except when there are hundreds or thousands of applications to support (n
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:02:08 -0700, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
>Howard Rifkind wrote:
>> If such training is taking place it most likely is in shops giving training
>> to
people who already work for them.
>>
>
>Did you read the article?
I did, and I love the passage: "Grim said Bank of America saw
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:57:40 -0500, Tom Moulder
wrote:
>You laugh ...
>
>I am working with a company that literally did this. They shipped a
>very large disk array to the central computing center and placed it next
>to the production array; synchronously copied all the data; found a
>quiet poin
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:43:32 -0500, Santosh Kandi wrote:
>Ed,
>
>we are on z/OS 1.9, with 2 jesplexes in a Parallel sysplex.
>
>CONSTD,EDIT=(],^,;,@),SYN=(8,*),PLEXSYN=(%)
>
>D OPDATA(snip):
>
> * JES3 J12SYSTEMNO PURGE
> * JES3 J11SYSTEM
>Or from having to combine systems/sysplexes into a bigger sysplex that are
>already units unto themselves, with disparate environments (pervasively
>different naming conventions, for instance). [..]
Same here. Disparate naming conventions are a double-edged sword. RNL
management is key.
>[..]
Whew. Barbara, thanks for the subject change; that was getting ornery.
Chris, I don't think anyone argues the advantages of horizontal scaling and
availability nor Sysplex as "the" means to provide it within System z. My vote
is for IBM to continue to develop and support it.
I *think* bubblin
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:38:48 -0500, Barbara Nitz
wrote:
>Don,
>[...]
>>OFFLOAD_SYSTEMS(
>> [INCLUDE(sysname1 [,sysname2]...)]
>> [EXCLUDE(sysname1 [,sysname2]...)]
>>)
>
>This was written so nicely :-), I went and checked the books if it's a function
>in 1.11. Pity it isn't. I like the
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:13:28 -0400, Joel Wolpert
wrote:
>Sorry for the ignorance. What is an ELA (enterprise licensing agreement?)?
Yes, that's it.
>Why would this cause you to dismantle your sysplex?
Not me, personally, but as a technician, sometimes I'm just a tourist. I'm
sure
the reaso
Barbara, we don't data share with DB2, so we don't see the problems with RRS
offloads. Does the introduction of the data sharing in a subplex force you to
share structures for the logstreams, even though they are sub-plexed?
As for Operlog, we have the same exposure with EJES (we have a lot of
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:35:55 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
>
>Good thing we never defined the OMVS CDS!
Got that right. Until we fully deploy 1.10, planned D/R is a pain (NEWROOT
will
alleviate the need for sysplex-wide IPLs). Until 1.11 is available (or we try
to
press for an SPE), we are exp
Sysplex may have been conceived as a way for applications and systems
to "grow beyond a box", but like it or not, it has evolved into a means to
merge independent systems together. Understanding the technical limitations
(we're closer to that now), each shop can decide how far to exploit it. T
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:46:44 -0400, Scott Rowe
wrote:
>Arthur, I snipped most of your text, which I whole-heartedly agree with, but
I have one comment about the "cost" of GRS-Star: I don't know if anyone
has truly studied this, but I have doubts as to whether GRS Star has a CPU
cost, at leas
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:02:32 -0500, Barbara Nitz
wrote:
>It depends. There are components that you cannot separate/configure for a
>subset. One of them is DAE, for instance. (Has caused us *a lot* of grief.)
>Another is console. A third is GRS. And WLM. And RMF. And PDSE.
And HFS - this was a b
With others making judicious mention of GRS RNLs, I realized I omitted another
important reference: "z/OS MVS Planning: Global Resource Serialization",
SA22-7600, as well as sections in the various components' (HSM, RACF,
etc.) "sysprog" or "reference" manuals that speak to GRS requirements.
>
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:34:17 -1000, Stephen Y Odo
wrote:
>We have 3 LPARs configured as monoplex. One for our Production
>environment, one for our Test/QA environment, and one for our
>Application Development environment.
>
>From this discussion, it sounds like everybody is saying even we would
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:32:31 -0400, Scott Rowe
wrote:
>Yes, you can do GRS-RING using XCF communications without a CF, which
would be a basic Sysplex. If you had a CF you would use GRS-STAR, which
would use XES, and thus be a Parallel Sysplex.
>
>Of course, I am running a Parallel Sysplex, a
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:30:26 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
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>Remember, ibm-main audience is NOT ONLY native English speakers! Quite a
>few of us do you the curtesy of using *your* language ('you'-the native
>English speakers - and no discussions about dialects, please!).
>
The world just isn't the s
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:52:42 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:01:04 +, Ted MacNEIL
wrote:
[...a good part of the exchange thus far, edited...]
> [1] No, I don't expect to see this for some of the core operating system
>ASIDs like GRS, TRACE, SMSPDSE etc. They have a lot
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:34:44 -0500, Arthur Gutowski
wrote:
>On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:37:35 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
> wrote:
>[...]
>That's the one you want, no VGET required. You will need an extra '.' to get
>the end-dsname right.
My apologies, I see later thi
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:19:08 -0400, Thompson, Steve
wrote:
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
>Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A
>
>There is no more worse than worst.
>
>
>
>So does that mean that wurst is chopped liver?
So, then, is the k
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:37:35 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
wrote:
>I want to change this line in a panel definition in our main ispplib:
>
>9,'CMD(EX ''SVS.IBMOM.SYSTS1.SCKMPARM(CKMISPF)'')'
>
>to one like this:
>
>9,'CMD(EX ''SVS.IBMOM.&ZSYSID.SCKMPARM(CKMISPF)'')'
>
>SYSTS1 is the name of our sandbox
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:22:16 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
wrote:
>Thanks, good advice. It's working now. What is this "automount
>management" all about?
I picked off some good info from this thread, too. Lots of smart people here.
As for automount, take a look at z/OS Unix System Servies Planning (wa
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