Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-10 Thread Barbara Nitz
Cheryl, >I am trying to send you an off-list email, but it's returned saying that you >won't accept email from my address. Have I done something wrong? no, you didn't do anything wrong. This email address blacklists just about everyone, with one or two on a whitelist. I had sent you an email f

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-05 Thread Cheryl Walker
Barbara, I am trying to send you an off-list email, but it's returned saying that you won't accept email from my address. Have I done something wrong? Thanks, Cheryl che...@watsonwalker.com == Cheryl Watson Watson & Walker, Inc. www.watsonwalker.com 941-266-6609 ==

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-04 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 11/2/2010 5:33 PM, Richard L Peurifoy wrote: It appears I had my results backwards in my test. PMO didn't like LCCA/PCCA above the line. SCHDMUF didn't like VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO). There is a fix for PMO. As soon as it is on I will try again. CA fix RO20128 has been applied for the PMO pr

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/01/2010 at 07:35 AM, Barbara Nitz said: >Which is why it is so easy for vendors (like Beta Systems) to refuse >to fix things uncovered by those traps. Think of it as an opportunity rather than a problem. Is your management pressing you to reduce software costs? If so, look first a

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-02 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
It appears I had my results backwards in my test. PMO didn't like LCCA/PCCA above the line. SCHDMUF didn't like VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO). There is a fix for PMO. As soon as it is on I will try again. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Mark Zelden" wrote in message news:... > On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:52:03 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > > > > >Perhaps the IBM-Main community can help come up with a way to document > >"things to play with" which would likely go with "but do not waste level > >2's time for things that you find when p

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:52:03 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > >Perhaps the IBM-Main community can help come up with a way to document >"things to play with" which would likely go with "but do not waste level >2's time for things that you find when playing". These play items are >typically for looking

Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Relson
The DIAG traps mentioned by Barbara N are not intended for general use. That is why they are not documented. To be frank: as with anything that you "find", you may try them, but aside from problems due to IgvInitGetmain, you should not expect changes in IBM code for situations (not necessari

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-02 Thread Barbara Nitz
>We IPLed our testsystems with the traps on this morning and had some >great fireworks (TSS)! > >Just to be sure: do the traps only pollute storage that is not >documented to be set to zeros? In other words, do they leave storage >unmodified that is documented to be returned initialized to zeros?

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message news:... > >Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and > >not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. > The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from > share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: >>Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and >>not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. > The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from > share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, whe

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 11/1/2010 1:45 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: Yes, CA are certainly BIG offenders in this game. Actually, we just ran into a key8 CSA thing with datacom - you cannot change the XCF MUF group name without it. Even after IPL they do not come up. We've had pretty good luck getting CA to correct these

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Bob Shannon" wrote in message news:<58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f088a3...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware .com>... > > Of course they're not documented > > But they are listed in SYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB). > > Bob Shannon Like George Orwell's pigs already said: all traps are undocumented, but some

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message news:... > >Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and > >not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. > The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from > share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Bob Shannon
> Of course they're not documented But they are listed in SYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB). Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the messa

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and >not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw a PSA >Furthermore, the mentioned traps are not

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message news:... > >Thanks for the tip. However, I can't find any igvdgnpp proc. With Google > >I found an older version (for PSA traps), but I don't think this is the > >one you intend. > >Where did you find the JCL or can you show yours? > > Yes, the PSA one is the one.

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Thanks for the tip. However, I can't find any igvdgnpp proc. With Google >I found an older version (for PSA traps), but I don't think this is the >one you intend. >Where did you find the JCL or can you show yours? Yes, the PSA one is the one. I don't remember where I originally copied it from,

Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message news:... > >Are there still problems known or is it generally considered safe to go > >to VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)? We run 1.10, going to 1.11 soon. > IPL your test system / sysplex with these options in your diag: > Traps Name(

Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-31 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Are there still problems known or is it generally considered safe to go >to VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)? We run 1.10, going to 1.11 soon. IPL your test system / sysplex with these options in your diag: Traps Name( IeaInitArSrb