Re: List spam

2011-01-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/18/2011 at 10:48 AM, Mike Schwab said: >Yep. I signed up for a topica.com email group. They have issues. >I bet the people marking it as spame has signed >up for the list then marked an email as spam. That certainly happens, but I wouldn't bet on it in this case. -- Shm

Re: List spam

2011-01-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4d359646.3000...@trainersfriend.com>, on 01/18/2011 at 06:31 AM, Steve Comstock said: >On the other hand, some email providers are over-ambitious in their >blocking. I wish I had one like that ;-) >I'm leading a tour to Japan this fall and when I send emails to >the group there is a hig

Re: List spam

2011-01-19 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Mike Schwab wrote: ANIP--- Yep.  I signed up for a topica.com email group.  Suddenly I stopped getting their messages.  I went to the web page and found message had been sent.  I complained to my web provider that I was not getting email from their site

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>I wonder how many valid emails are not getting through > because of false-positive results in some spam sensing > algorithm. > > I have always wondered the same thing since a time when our service provider > started using a metric of percenta

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I wonder how many valid emails are not getting through because of false-positive results in some spam sensing algorithm. I have always wondered the same thing since a time when our service provider started using a metric of percentage of messages filtered by the spam filter(s) as an indication

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Comstock
On 1/17/2011 8:49 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In , on 01/15/2011 at 05:45 PM, "Schwarz, Barry A" said: What happened to the common and effective advice - If you receive spam, hit delete and move on. To every complex question there is an answer that is simple, obvious and wrong. A

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/15/2011 at 05:45 PM, "Schwarz, Barry A" said: >What happened to the common and effective advice - If you receive >spam, hit delete and move on. To every complex question there is an answer that is simple, obvious and wrong. As Allan Sherman said, "Good advice costs nothing and it'

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <63f312e6f4b4674a8f5ac4512c47ec8003e0e23...@mx06a.corp.emc.com>, on 01/14/2011 at 02:05 PM, Stan Weyman said: > I am also a realist and this appears to be somewhat accepted in the >world of email. No. It's accepted in the sleazy advertising community, not in the e-mail community. --

Re: List spam

2011-01-16 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM > > "Shane Ginnane" wrote in message > news:<1294994009.4d300a5943...@postoffice.tpg.com.au>... > > Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. > > Must have been done as a harvesti

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam >Not to mention that they first ask permission to post blatant

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Not to mention that they first ask permission to post blatant ads! Not all! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 1/15/2011 1:28 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Persons here in IBM-MAIN post regurlarly about training, upcoming events and products. I tolerate them because they are honest and offering ideas and advices here. Not to mention that they first ask permission to post blatant ads! Gerhard Postpi

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Linda Mooney wrote: > but because they lied by claiming that I had subscribed. Yes, they also LIED to me saying I have subscribed and that my employer will pay discounted amounts too, just because I subscribed. That 'discount' thing made me to reach for the DELETE button and blacklist this sp

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 January 2011 15:15, Linda Mooney wrote: > Well, I would rule them out, not because they obviously harvested this list > - but because they  lied by  claiming that I had subscribed.  T he email > address I use for this list is ONLY used for that purpose, never anything > else.  So the sta

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/14/2011 at 08:50 AM, Avram Friedman said: >Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted >advertising. Spam is a good way to lose potential business. >There are a few things that seperate the email from Recovery >Knowelage from spam. No. If it is unsolicited,

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Linda Mooney
quot; To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:05:24 AM Subject: Re: List spam   I would go so far as to say I wouldn't rule a company like this out but I still take some exception to the back door method used to send out their message, after getting their email list (I&

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Bob Rutledge
Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Yes, but I found it mildly amusing... Hello Deer Recovery Knowledge an IBM Business Partner is offering an unbelievable (No License Charge) discount on all our DB2 Automated Tools to IX Netcom. Bob --

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Stan Weyman
oij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam Stan, I agree. There are always some grey areas (or grey persons, who besides plugging their training company also provide useful contributions ;-)). However this is indiscriminate spanning to z/OS

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
- Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia. Probab

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
t is wise to keep in mind that neither > success nor failure is ever final... > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf > Of Avram Friedman > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Stan Weyman
stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Avram Friedman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM To

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Avram Friedman
I would not consider a rare work related email as a spam attack. Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted advertising. There are a few things that seperate the email from Recovery Knowelage from spam. 1. Appears to to a rare event. 2. It is targeted and directed ... i

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Comstock
On 1/14/2011 1:33 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia. Probably seen it before and just trashe

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP wrote: >I hope they respect my unsubscribe. Perhaps not. Your address are now probably marked as 'live' and you will be spammed properly... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote: >Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Yes. And I wasted precious seconds to review that thing in my Junk folder and delete it. Only 5 and half seconds of my life were wasted to get rid of this bored spammer! ;-D It took me a half minute to write thi

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Stephen Mednick
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Friday, 14 January 2011 7:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: List spam Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Shane Ginnane" wrote in message news:<1294994009.4d300a5943...@postoffice.tpg.com.au>... > Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. > Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to > post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 pa

List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Shane Ginnane
Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia. Probably seen it before and just trashed it. --