Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/12/2005 at 12:12 AM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If the mainframe is to be defined as an electronic computer doing commercial work - which, for example, I expect is a definition with which IBM would agree I would expect scale to be part of the definition;

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:12:18 +0100, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... P.S. My apologies if I have sent a blank post into the system. My first attempt to set this one up disappeared! ... Chris, Don't apologize. That was the first posting of yours that I absorbed in one reading. :-) Pat

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-11 Thread Chris Mason
- Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, 11 December, 2005 2:31 AM Subject: Re: public available IBM mvs machines ? In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/09/2005 at 01:36 PM, Chris Mason

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-11 Thread Chris Mason
(Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, 11 December, 2005 2:31 AM Subject: Re: public available IBM mvs machines ? In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/09/2005 at 01:36 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I just called it up and I

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Nicola, You better find a course on mainframe basics. A mainframe is a large machine with dozens or hundreds of applications and hundreds or many thousands users. You don't logon to a mainframe, you logon to an application running on it. All applications are different and serve their own

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread Chris Mason
expect you'll need all nearly 650 pages to get suitable orientation. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, 09 December, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: Re: public available IBM mvs

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread Don Poitras
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Nicola, You better find a course on mainframe basics. A mainframe is a large machine with dozens or hundreds of applications and hundreds or many thousands users. Yeah but, Steve Comstock has one on his thinkpad. :) -- Don Poitras - SAS

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread R.S.
Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: Nicola, You better find a course on mainframe basics. A mainframe is a large machine with dozens or hundreds of applications and hundreds or many thousands users. You don't logon to a mainframe, you logon to an application running on it. All applications are

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Nicola, You better find a course on mainframe basics. A mainframe is a large machine with dozens or hundreds of applications and hundreds or many thousands users. Yeah but, Steve

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread John Eells
R.S. wrote: I can imagine that IBM could provide one, without any real business app, just to present it. I don't mean wide-open, because it has no big sense, but it could be available as univeristy program. An university could subcribe for access, pay some registration fee and get remote

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-09 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Radoslaw, it is not a dream ! There is zUniversity program going on, it is also in Poland at Adam Mickiewicz University, Poznan This is from official materials - The zSeries Europe University System went live 8/2005 - Free online access to z/OS, z/VM and zSeries Linux to support universities