Re: COBOL packed decimal

2012-07-22 Thread Scott Ford
My dad worked on the 1108 II, I think at Ft. Harrison in Indy Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:26 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: The Unisys 1108, a (36-bit) word machine, was originally the UNIVAC 1108 I (circa 1965) and the UNIVAC 1108 II (circa 1968); and

Re: COBOL packed decimal

2012-07-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In c4c6c378-b640-43a1-88d5-7c79f3bf0...@yahoo.com, on 07/20/2012 at 08:08 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Who did the inherit the 1108 from ? My dad worked for Unisys on the 1108sdude Unisys was a merger of Burroughs and UNIVAC; They kept the B6500 line from Burroughs and the

Re: COBOL packed decimal

2012-07-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1342898015.24312.yahoomail...@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on 07/21/2012 at 12:13 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I wasnt sure if the 1108 had come from RCA or Buroughs The 1108 dates back to the old Remington-Rand or Sperry Rand, not to the RCA EDP acquisition. It's possible

Re: REXX ISPF edit FIND failing

2012-07-22 Thread CM Poncelet
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:31:09 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: I did explain that ISREDIT follows Clist rules when processing 's, in my earlier posting, methinks grin: ... TSO Clist edit macros have been around long before REXX appeared (around 1989-90) and ISREDIT was

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

2012-07-22 Thread John Gilmore
I am not sure that I fully understand exactly what you want to do or the exact sequence in which you want to do it. Your objective is, however, clear: You want to be able to use the CICS RENTPGM=PROTECT facility. If 1) you specify this option for a CICS application program (AP) and 2) CICS

Re: COBOL packed decimal

2012-07-22 Thread Scott Ford
I was aware of the hardware on the machines, since my late father was a FE on them. Didn't really know anything about the opsys or programming languages. So the history is very interesting Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

2012-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
and it finds many but not quite all of them. Basically, it finds ST 1,FOO where FOO is defined in the CSECT something like FOO DC F'0' but it does not find things like the following construct that IBM macros are or were fond of CNOP 0,4 BAL 1,*+8 DCF'0' ST2,0(0,1) In the

Re: REXX ISPF edit FIND failing

2012-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:50:25 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: Same question as earlier: Do identical command strings issued to ISREDIT from CLIST and CALL have identical effect? I would expect the ISREDIT effects of REXX/Clist v. ISPLINK calls to be identical, because the command strings in the call

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:17:11 -0500, David Boyes wrote: For those of you who haven't seen it, VM, VSE and Linux register for a specific fully-architected hardware external interrupt (in the PoPs) that indicates that the LPAR is being shut down. VSE issues a message, VM reflects the interrupt to

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0400, zMan wrote: Some years ago, I suggested in MVS-OE that MVS shutdown should send SIGTERM to all dubbed processes so that processes coded to UNIX conventions could perform orderly shutdown. The suggestion was not well received. Can you elaborate? Why would

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Scott Ford
Gil, I am with you and zMan what's so difficult about an orderly shutdown on OMVS and z/os address spaces..z/Pdt has vtamappl, everything shutdown fine... Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:23:36

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Ed Gould
I think the problem is that in z/OS there is no one way of notification (I know you are asking for one). There are at least 2 (3 if you count z) commands to stop an application, P and ,technically F I know F is usually modify but it is also used as stop. All the applications would have to

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
How can I go about submitting a requirement for z/OS to acknowledge and handle the same external interrupt as VM, VSE and Linux use to trigger a controlled shutdown (or at least acknowledge it by printing a message we can capture via console automation and trigger the shutdown ourselves)?

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Scott Ford
David, What issuing a z/Pdt cmd OPRMSG 'cmd ...'. Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 4:17 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: How can I go about submitting a requirement for z/OS to acknowledge and handle the same external interrupt as VM, VSE and Linux use to

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:18 -0500 on 07/22/2012, Ed Gould wrote about Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowled: I think the problem is that in z/OS there is no one way of notification (I know you are asking for one). There are at least 2 (3 if you count z) commands to stop an application, P

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

2012-07-22 Thread Scott Ford
Robert, That is my understanding also..as long as an automation package or maybe even system rexx could intercept the message and take action that was desired. I don't see why that wouldn't work... Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg

Re: Integrating User Identity

2012-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Peter, could you elaborate on what integration means to you? Thanks. Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com

Re: Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek

2012-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel Metz asks: There is support for mapping long user ids into short user ids. Does that support work if the access validation is in a third party LDAP server? Base z/OS includes LDAP client support, provided in the Tivoli Directory Server for z/OS. I already answered yes, so I'll vote yes

Re: Help with elementary CPU speed question

2012-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mike Ward writes: This is one area where I really have a problem. It used to be back in the 370 days that if a machine was rated at 50 mips and you moved up to 100 mips you really noticed the difference in execution time I know I'm on a rant Was there even a 100 MIPS uniprocessor model in

Re: Storage utililzation Optimization

2012-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Compression is also an option -- in DB2, for example -- if you're not using it. Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

2012-07-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:13 -0700 on 07/22/2012, Charles Mills wrote about Re: re-entrant modules and the binder: and it finds many but not quite all of them.  Basically, it finds ST 1,FOO where FOO is defined in the CSECT something like FOO DC F'0' but it does not find things like the following

Re: NFS Client Start Delay

2012-07-22 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello, After spending more time on this issue, I have realized that this delay is because of syslog was consuming all spaced allocated to that. So, I have deleted syslog file from /usr/local/logs. This resolved my issue. Thanks for help. Regards Saurabh On Fri, Jul 6,

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 21 Jul 2012 to 22 Jul 2012 (#2012-204)

2012-07-22 Thread David Boyes
In Linux, which process handles the shutdown signal? Init? Or is it sent to all processes with a default of ignore, with at least one superuser process handling it by issuing shutdown? They hooked it into init (believe it or not, into the cntl-alt-del handler...). The kernel registers for

Re: Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek

2012-07-22 Thread Scott Ford
Sorry we are competitors I won't say more Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: Shmuel Metz asks: There is support for mapping long user ids into short user ids. Does that support work if the access validation