Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote: ...we had to write a program that converted DJDE records the the format of the 3800 records (its been ages (4a?) ) Gosh! I totally forgot about that DJDE records! My, oh my, how the time flies! That was interesting technology, but now not in use these days... I remember the

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 17:00:02 -0400, Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com wrote: I'm having some issues with using the OS Simulation macros NOTE and POINT under VM/CMS. I've been scouring documentation to try and discover just what the CMS differences are... But, at the moment, I'm trying to

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-08 03:20, Robert A. Rosenberg pisze: At 10:17 + on 08/07/2012, Pearce, Colin E wrote about Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!: Ask the Auditors if they will help you fill out all the APARs and collect the supporting documents IMO: Any Auditor who wants to tell me how to do

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:40 +0200 on 08/08/2012, R.S. wrote about Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!: W dniu 2012-08-08 03:20, Robert A. Rosenberg pisze: At 10:17 + on 08/07/2012, Pearce, Colin E wrote about Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!: Ask the Auditors if they will help you fill out all the APARs and

Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Jake anderson
Hi, I am probably asking a very simple Question but I am unable to interpret Properly. I tried allocating a PS file with space Unit=Bytes, Primary as 1,RECFM=FB,LRECL=80, but when I view the Dataset Information shows the primary Extent is occupied with *55840 bytes* : General Data

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Aug 8, 2012, at 01:04, Alan Altmark wrote: First pointer: We welcome your CMS questions over on IBMVM! ;-) Sorry I haven't been watching IBM-MAIN as closely as I should, but the TTR isn't. It's the CMS file system record number of the record that was just read (shifted left 8 bits)

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Richard Marchant
Jake, Minimum allocation for a file on DASD is one track. Richard -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake anderson Sent: 08 August 2012 01:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Space Allocation In Bytes Hi, I

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-08 13:40, Jake anderson pisze: Hi, I am probably asking a very simple Question but I am unable to interpret Properly. I tried allocating a PS file with space Unit=Bytes, Primary as 1,RECFM=FB,LRECL=80, but when I view the Dataset Information shows the primary Extent is

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - FILTERDD

2012-08-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
esmie moo wrote: I am trying to use more than 1 FILTERDD while attempting to backup several dsns using DFDSS. I keep getting the error message : ADR126E (001)-RI01 (01), RIGHT PARENTHESIS MISSING AFTER 'INDSNS01 ' Is this because I am using more than 1 FILTERDD Yes. After I have RTFM, I see

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Aug 8, 2012, at 06:06, R.S. wrote: BTW: your allocation request was illogical - you wanted to have 80-byte records and requested 1 byte. Such request has to be re-interpreted or canceled. ;-) I believe the block specification is an average. As such, it's not required to be a

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - FILTERDD

2012-08-08 Thread McKown, John
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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-08 16:00, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Aug 8, 2012, at 06:06, R.S. wrote: BTW: your allocation request was illogical - you wanted to have 80-byte records and requested 1 byte. Such request has to be re-interpreted or canceled. ;-) I believe the block specification is an

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Mike Schwab
A zero byte VB record is expanded to 1 blank x'40' so the minimum is a block of 9 bytes including block size and record size field. I tried to allocate a FB 6 0 to hold a list of volsers for a table, LRL under 10 would not work. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Aug 8, 2012, at 09:11, Mike Schwab wrote: A zero byte VB record is expanded to 1 blank x'40' so the minimum is a block of 9 bytes including block size and record size field. ??? No. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2d490/3.1.3.1.2 Title: z/OS V1R12

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - FILTERDD

2012-08-08 Thread esmie moo
Thanks for the advice. From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 9:58:04 AM Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - FILTERDD esmie moo wrote: I am trying to use more than 1 FILTERDD while

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8082333213958528.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/08/2012 at 02:04 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said: Sorry I haven't been watching IBM-MAIN as closely as I should, but the TTR isn't. It's the CMS file system record number of the record that was just read

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-08 17:11, Mike Schwab pisze: A zero byte VB record is expanded to 1 blank x'40' so the minimum is a block of 9 bytes including block size and record size field. I tried to allocate a FB 6 0 to hold a list of volsers for a table, LRL under 10 would not work. Do you mean

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0fdb46cc-7d2e-4887-9f5c-fc29d9c2b...@aim.com, on 08/08/2012 at 09:45 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I do not find a stated minimum for the BDW. Absent firm information, I'll assume 4-byte blocks (nothing but BDW) are permissible. No, the minimum ios 8; see 3.2.3.1 Block

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAJTOO58735VUTbFZ-GL2hvGg5=p=zoaf0271gsclbqt0y4j...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/08/2012 at 10:11 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: A zero byte VB record is expanded to 1 blank x'40' so the minimum is a block of 9 bytes including block size and record size field. Are you sure didn't

Re: File Processing

2012-08-08 Thread Scott Ford
It wasn't easy. It was a Macro CICS shop on top of that, we were doIng a lot of CICS transactions and swore it was our code/IBM's. Later it was pretty funny. I never mind ppl not knowing that's not a big issue, but blaming without knowing or thinking you know well..what can I say ... Scott

Re: Message Flooding Problem

2012-08-08 Thread Scott Ford
Barbara, Just curious you don't use dsitbl01 anymore or am I dating myself .lol Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:08 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Mark, No we don't, and that was one of the options I was looking at yesterday. use this one. You will

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In CAJTOO58735VUTbFZ-GL2hvGg5=p=zoaf0271gsclbqt0y4j...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/08/2012 at 10:11 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: deleted I tried to allocate a FB 6 0 to hold a list of volsers

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:18:35 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: To increment the record number by one, add 256 to the TTR. ITYM add 256 to the TTRz. Does this work when you cross a track boundary? I might expect it to work less well for TTRz than for relative block

Re: Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?

2012-08-08 Thread Bill Fairchild
No, and a track boundary is not a multiple of 256. You have to compare the new record number to the maximum number of records that will fit on the track. Or, even more fun, if your records are variable-length, then you get to play with the track balance service to see if there is enough room

Re: Decouple Accenture's Install-1 from CICS

2012-08-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:56 PM, George, William@FTB wrote: - SNIP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

no book manager files for db2 v10 so here is a lookat macro

2012-08-08 Thread don isenstadt
Hello, We have used the bookmanager function with sdsf for years... but alas with version 10 of db2 no more book manager. Here is my attempt at a macro for the vista3270 emulator which calls lookat if you highlight the text and press the macro button .. I imagine it could be recoded for

Re: File Processing

2012-08-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Scott Ford wrote: I love it .I had a COBOL programmer bet me that our DOS/VSE system on our 4381 was causing her abend. She bet me a dinner, well I collected, brought her in and did a instruction trace pointed right to her code Scott ford

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-08 Thread Scott Ford
Amen bro I am a mainframe believer for long time Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:19 AM, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: On 8/7/2012 21:20, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 10:17 + on 08/07/2012, Pearce, Colin E wrote about Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!:

Re: Decouple Accenture's Install-1 from CICS

2012-08-08 Thread George, William@FTB
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Decouple Accenture's Install-1 from CICS On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:56 PM, George, William@FTB wrote:

RMM conversion to Common Time Support (UTC GMT)

2012-08-08 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Greetings, We are going to have to change one our SYSPLEX members from MST to CEST. To do this we will need to convert DFSMSRMM to Common Time Support. I'm just putting a feeler out there to see if anyone has done this and if so were there any unexpected issues or was the EDGUTIL utility with

Re: Decouple Accenture's Install-1 from CICS

2012-08-08 Thread Ed Gould
George: Find who hired them and let them have a free reign and fire them. Ed On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, George, William@FTB wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:31

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAJTOO5-_jCQt3_wepucjBcEqhu7sNFbv7TcE=4vabeyj5mv...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/08/2012 at 02:15 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: On TSO ISPF 3.2, it failed with record length too short so I kept adding 1 to the LRECL until 10 worked. This was about 9 years ago. Well, ISPF has its