DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
Dear All, We are under the process of migrating to DS8870 from DS8810. While I create new Ranks with Array capacity of 2400GB(8*300GB), I get around 1652GB of usable storage while rest will go for Parity and Spare. We use SSD disks and I used Ranks to pick RAID5 which automatically picked RAID

DS8870 - Ranks - RAID issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
Hi All, We are under the process of migrating to DS8870 from DS8810. While I create new Ranks with Array capacity of 2400GB(8*300GB), I get around 1652GB of usable storage while rest will go for Parity and Spare. We use SSD disks and I used Ranks to pick RAID5 which automatically picked RAID 5

Re: Defined capacity

2013-02-15 Thread Martin Packer
Maybe he's just pointing out that IRD Weight Management and Softcapping are two separate concepts/knobs/dials. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter /

Re: DASDCALC

2013-02-15 Thread Jantje.
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:46:56 -0500, Dazzo, Matt mda...@pch.com wrote: So my Win XP work station machine is gone, not my choice. So I am looking for a replacement tool for the indispensable DASDCALC tool distributed my Central coast software. I use this tool regularly and it makes my life very

Re: DS8870 - Ranks - RAID issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
We need to achieve RAID 5 (7+P) combination. I tried too google and read many documents.. but no use. Any suggestions please.? Regards, Raju On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Raju Reddy rajunjmainfra...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, We are under the process of migrating to DS8870 from DS8810.

Re: ‘’MVS overhead’’ (as indicated by OMEGAMON)

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:28:16 +0100, Jan Vanbrabant wrote: This system has bad P/Is, for example one Service Class has a P/I=18.5 while there are no bottlenecks at all with the resources, while being idle for 96,9%. I would take this as a clue. When a service class has goals that are too

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Raju, http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248085.html?Open Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Raju Reddy rajunjmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, We

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
Scott, Thanks for that.. I have the Redbook handy and followed the same procedure. But there it is mentioned how to use RAID 5 (7+P) combination. And also while creating Arrays, I dont see RAID 5 (7+P) but it automatically pick ups RAID 5 (6+P+S). Regards, Raju On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:01

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Raju, What about your local IBMer or online via ETR Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Feb 15, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Raju Reddy rajunjmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Thanks for that..

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
Scott, I raised one PMR with IBM but they replied saying that should be raised in local HMC of the DS8k box. I support remotly. I need to ask someone at onsite to do it. But it will take really longer. Regards, Raju On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Raju, That almost sounds like microcode doing that a setting Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Raju, What

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Raju, So you don't have a remote HMC..for it Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Raju Reddy rajunjmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, I raised one PMR with IBM

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
Scott, No. I dont have a remote HMC but I have only GUI. Do you suspect it is do with Microcode setting.? Regards, Raju On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Raju, So you don't have a remote HMC..for it Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:48:03 +, Raju Reddy wrote: And also while creating Arrays, I dont see RAID 5 (7+P) but it automatically pick ups RAID 5 (6+P+S). Perhaps because you haven't yet met the requirements for spare drives? -- Tom Marchant

What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
We have some started tasks that execute a IKJEFT1B step at the end. These work fine during regular shutdowns of the started tasks. But when testing a new automated total shutdown procedure (meant to run prior to an IPL), the IKJEFT1B step hangs up. We think it must be waiting for something

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:18:11 -0600, Rozeboom, Kay [DAS] wrote: ...when testing a new automated total shutdown procedure (meant to run prior to an IPL), the IKJEFT1B step hangs up. We think it must be waiting for something that has already been shut down, but can't figure out what. Are you

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Raju, I believe section 4.6.9 in that Redbook describes what you're seeing: start quote When the arrays are created on a DS8870, the microcode determines which array sites contains spares. The first array sites on each DA pair that are assigned to arrays contribute one or two spares (depending

JES Extended Status (SSI 80)

2013-02-15 Thread Steve Austin
Hello, With JES2 on Z/OS 1.13 this works when I specify STATTERS or STATOUTT, but for STATVRBO, STATOUTV and STATDLST I get a SSOBRETN of X'0C' and a STATREAS of X'00'. For all the requests I'm setting statsjb1, statshld, statsnhl, statsshl and statssnh; statjbil and statjbih contain the same

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
It does hang before writing to SYSOUT, but JES is still up at that point. Kay Rozeboom Information Technology Enterprise Iowa Department of Administrative Services Telephone: 515.281.6139   Fax: 515.281.6137 Email:  kay.rozeb...@iowa.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Defined capacity

2013-02-15 Thread Al Sherkow
The initial capping checkbox on the HMC is the original (back to the 3090?) PR/SM Hard Capping control. HardCapped LPARs do not work with Defined Capacity or LPAR Group Capacity Limits. Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on IBM Workload License Charges (WLC),

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:01:45 -0500, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Raju, http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248085.html?Open Scott ford www.identityforge.com It's good to see on DS8700's you can access the GUI directly with a browser instead of requiring that horrid TPC. I

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 09:27 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: Are you trying to write to SYSOUT after JES is shut down? Only possible if they'd done $PJES2,ABEND - JES2 won't shut otherwise with active non-mstr STCs. I think that a write to SYSOUT is still possible with JES down, so long as you don't

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-15 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:24:35 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: That said, if the command line is readily accessible from the graphical/Web interface, I don't see the problem. That's the rub, there isn't a readily accessable command line available, a real 5250 emulator session

Re: DS8870 - RAID 5 issue

2013-02-15 Thread Raju Reddy
Van Der, Thanks, Brilliant piece of infromation.. I wonder how did I miss that.. I got it now. and implementing the same. Dana, Yes.. No TCP/SSPC.. I am accessing DS8870 remotely with an IP address..!!! Cheers, Raju On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: IGD17271I under ISPF but only sometimes

2013-02-15 Thread Jim Mooney
Thanks for the reply, but I'm not sure CBLQDA applies. I could be wrong, but there doesn't seem to be any LE or cobol involved here (at least I see no CEE eyecatchers in any of the vendor's modules). Also, if you mean I should add the FILEAID ddname to my logon proc, that would seem to defeat

Re: Defined capacity

2013-02-15 Thread Al Sherkow
IRD weight management and Defined Capacity work fine. The problem comes with IRD and LPAR Group Capacity Limits (introduced in z/OS 1.8). The problem is when an LPAR Group is capped IRD stops adjusting weights. This is rather unfortunate as this is the time when a customer would most want

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
I would be surprised if IKJEFT1B has any requirements, but the TSO commands that you enter may. If you look at the TSO commands that you are trying to issue, that might give a clue. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Failed Disk Data Exposure

2013-02-15 Thread Mike Schwab
In the ESS F20 and 800, you select Raid 5. If your hardware installer hooks them up in the specified order, The First 16 8-packs of a particular disk size uses 6+P+S and the Next 32 8-packs use 7+P. If you ask for a Custom Install Order, You could have the first 12 8 packs hooked up to the first

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
Thanks, but I tried substituting different commands and got the same result. Kay Rozeboom Information Technology Enterprise Iowa Department of Administrative Services Telephone: 515.281.6139   Fax: 515.281.6137 Email:  kay.rozeb...@iowa.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
What is the shutdown process? Is TSO down, is JES2 down, where does your process get shutdown with regards to the overall shutdown? Are these the last things to be shutdown? Provide some additional details on the IKJEFT1B and how it relates to the shutdown process Lizette -Original

SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS NOT DEFINED IN SMS ACS

2013-02-15 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,   I am trying to debug a problem.  The user is specifying a specific DATACLAS, however it is ignored.  I checked the ACS for this DATACLAS but there is no FILTLIST etc. for it. There is however a CONSTRUCT.   When I run the job the DATACLAS is respected.   The LISTCAT shows the correct

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS NOT DEFINED IN SMS ACS

2013-02-15 Thread Staller, Allan
I would check the ACS routines. There might be something specific as to who(m) is allowed to assign a DATACLAS. I myself have several cases where the ACS routines will not assign a MGMTCLAS/DATACLAS/STORCLAS, and they must be assigned manually. These values are filtered in my ACS routines by a

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-15 Thread Lloyd Fuller
This is also a great way to hide files from casual users: make the name unprintable characters and they do not see the file. Or make it read only on a writable disk: use lower case or unprintable characters in the name. Without a program it is difficult to overwrite, read, or delete the

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
I tried substituting different commands and got the same result. What happens if you just issue the TIME command? What if there is no command issued? Are there any messages in SYSLOG? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

FW: [Service Request Helpdesk #290267] 290267

2013-02-15 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Valued Readers, I never heard back on this and called IBM. For a long time every time I print my IBM service request the first two lines of the next page are ‘missing”. However where these two lines should be printing is a big black bar that does not show up when viewing the SR. The big

Re: DASDCALC

2013-02-15 Thread Linda
Hi Matt, Win 7 32 or 64 bit? If 32 bit, you should be able to install DASDCALC using the Win7 compatibility mode. If you are usin Win7 64 bit, it might fail IF there are any addressability problems, but that will give you a message at (failed) install time. I have used this for lots of

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
After all our guesswork, I think it's time to take a console dump of the hung task. At worst take a standalone dump, which shouldn't be very big by that time. If you can't figure it out yourself (no shame there), then open an SR and send the dump to IBM. This situation should be APARable... .

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Don Williams
I expect that your new automated shutdown procedure has issued a $P command. JES2 could is still be up, but JES2 processes required for your IKJEFT1B script have been drained. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-15 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello All, I was looking into improving performance by placing load libraries that have a high quantity of fetches in LLA/VLF. I was thinking on using SMF type 14 records to find out the good candidates. Is that a good idea? Any other ideas on how I could find out the most used load libraries?

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: Indeed. I'd put it more strongly: Case sensitivity for *IX filesystems offers NO benefit that anyone has ever been able to articulate to me. If you ask a *IX person, they act like it's just obviously A Good Thing, but can never express why. And if you ask

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
However you finally select candidates, be aware of some behavior changes that *other* folks in your shop may find disturbing. Not to mention *yourself* later on down the road. A library managed by LLA will not show updated contents until after an LLA REFRESH. For example, if you update a

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Don Williams
P.S. When that happened to me, I manually issued a $S and that freed things up. I expect that your new automated shutdown procedure has issued a $P command. JES2 could is still be up, but JES2 processes required for your IKJEFT1B script have been drained. Don -Original Message- From:

Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
We have an old TSO command call SPACE that gives a quick display of online DASD, tape, and some other stuff. It reports a DASD device as 3390-xx based on a table lookup using some data in the returned UCB. This command never reports a device as bigger than a Mod-9 even though the capacity may

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread John McKown
As I was once told : Use the Source, Luke! On Feb 15, 2013 5:13 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: We have an old TSO command call SPACE that gives a quick display of online DASD, tape, and some other stuff. It reports a DASD device as 3390-xx based on a table lookup using some

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Mike Schwab
Divide the Cylinder count by 1113. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: We have an old TSO command call SPACE that gives a quick display of online DASD, tape, and some other stuff. It reports a DASD device as 3390-xx based on a table lookup using some

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 2/15/2013 3:47 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Divide the Cylinder count by 1113. And be prepared to handle greater than two-digit model numbers. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Dale McCart
Skip, I tried to get an APAR on this years ago. They said that QD gave the cyl# and that was all the data you should need. Any thing larger than a Mod 1 is listed as Mod 3 if not larger than a 3 Any thing larger than a Mod 3 is listed as Mod 9. Some samples from my volumes:

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Doug Fuerst
50,000 tracks = Mod 3 150,000 tracks = Mod 9 Figure out the rest from there. Doug On 2/15/2013 6:47 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Divide the Cylinder count by 1113. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: We have an old TSO command call SPACE that gives a

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Mike Schwab
Sure you don't need more than 3 digits? 64K Cyl * 16 EAV multiplier = 1048576 / 1113 = 942 M1s. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 2/15/2013 3:47 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Divide the Cylinder count by 1113. And be prepared to handle greater than

STARTOOL FDM 7.7.1

2013-02-15 Thread Anthony Fletcher
We have a problem with STARTOOL FDM V 7.7.1 automatically producing IAMLISTC output when the data set being accessed is in IAM (Innovation) format. This did not happen with V 7.7.0. Are there any users of STARTOOL FDM out there that I could perhaps contact offline?

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 2/15/2013 4:19 PM, Dale McCart wrote: Any thing larger than a Mod 1 is listed as Mod 3 if not larger than a 3 Any thing larger than a Mod 3 is listed as Mod 9. Not true. If not Mod1, Mod2, Mod3 or Mod9, it is reported as ModA. This is true for both DS8xxx HMC and z/OS displays. DS P,8339

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-15 Thread Leslie Turriff
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 16:17:28 Phil Smith wrote: R.S. wrote: BTW: My argument against Unix behavior: I cannot distinguish MyFiLE and MYfiLe during phone call. Even spelling is simpler for M-y-f-I-L-e than for Upper M - Upper Y Indeed. I'd put it more strongly: Case sensitivity

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jlturr...@centurytel.net (Leslie Turriff) writes: Not so much a mistake as short-sightedness; before 3270s were available, keypunches could only do upper-case (without jumping through hoops), so mixed-case names were probably considered unneccessary. I also remember when, in

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-15 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:44:26 -0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: I've been reading the same theory as it applied to us Systems Programmers the last few years. Mass retirement making the remaining sysprogs highly sought after and compensated. Well, I've personally seen lots of retirements, but due