Re: Health Checker for z/OS checks - to check or not to check, now is the..

2013-03-22 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
After using Health Checker for z/OS for several months now, I'm having doubts about some checks, so please feel free to comment :) I just cannot resist. But first: Have you checked the archives? Most of the checks you talk about here I have complained about in the past. Documented in the

Re: Lost datagrams on z/OS 1.12?

2013-03-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: I have told the customer that it may be our problem In all your posts, you're speaking of one? customer. Do this problem appears at your other customers? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For

PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Ravi Gaur
We had a very weird situation where one of the TSO user compressed the PDS dataset which had 6000+ members however eventually the JCL in all of these members got similar atmost ..so look like during stow somehow same memory overlaid or Directory TTR got wrong... We had no backup of the dataset

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We also once had a situation like this, where a PDS with ca. 12.000 members got unusable during compress, the directory was overwritten and unusable. But we managed to read the members sequentially without using the directory, this way moving the members to another dataset, naming them with

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Ravi Gaur
Do you have the code of assemble to read the directory sequentially and create members... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Ravi Gaur
Thankyou yes I looked at the PDSGAS and it's a good utility for recovering the deleted members until pds is not compresses or space is not reclaimed..However in current situation it just show me similar JCL..We going back to 2011 backup...It doesn't have HSM Bcds entry...Unfortunately most of

Re: Health Checker for z/OS checks - to check or not to check, now is the..

2013-03-22 Thread Doug Henry
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:13:49 +0100, nitz-...@gmx.net nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Check: GRS_CONVERT_RESERVES Comment: Still haven't used the GRS ENQ/DEQ/RESERVE Monitor to check what reserves our systems are using. I was wondering has anyone tried to convert all RESERVEs to ENQs? Were any

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
willie bunter wrote: HSEND RECALL 'HESPDE02.ABACKUP.IMS1.HLIST' DFDSSOPTION(VOLCOUNT(ANY)) - FORCENONSMS VOLUME(SMTP17) - BYPASSACS(**) - NULLSTORCLAS Where is your UNIT(???) keyword? As documented, you MUST specify UNIT when specify VOLUME. (and vice versa too). I'm not sure about

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread willie bunter
Elardus,   I tried your suggestion :    HSEND RECALL 'HESPDE02..ABACKUP.IMS1.HLIST' DFDSSOPTION(VOLCOUNT(ANY)) -   FORCENONSMS VOLUME(SMTP17) UNIT(3390) /*   However it didn't work.  According to the error message ADR472E 72 :

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread Mike Schwab
If it is SMS managed, then the volume doesn't matter. You specified a specific volume, so I assumed a non-sms volume. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:28 AM, willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com wrote: Elardus, I tried your suggestion : HSEND RECALL 'HESPDE02..ABACKUP.IMS1.HLIST'

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread Greg Shirey
The OS does not guarantee space, the phrase indicates that the user will guarantee there is space. That is, the normal operation for SMS is to locate space on an appropriate volume; guaranteed space subverts this normal process and uses the VOLSER value the user has coded. Greg Shirey Ben E.

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Steve Thompson
From: Ravi Gaur gaur.ravi2...@gmail.com Date: 03/22/2013 05:31 AM We had a very weird situation where one of the TSO user compressed the PDS dataset which had 6000+ members however eventually the JCL in all of these members got similar atmost ..so look like during stow somehow same memory

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread willie bunter
Am I safe to assume that what I am trying to do cannot be done? From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:32:59 AM Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME If it is SMS

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Thompson wrote: I'm going to ask a dumb question. I do not expect an answer. It is not a dumb question. The OP said 'one of the TSO user compressed the PDS dataset ...'. But it is somewhat ambiguous. It is not really clear how the compression was done: in batch or TSO? TSO is supposed

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 09:43 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: Requirement: SYSUT4 must be in a single contiguous extent -- z/OS DFSMSdfp Utilities SC26-7414-03 I was surprised to read this, after 40 years of coding IEBCOPY jobs. Thanks for digging this up, Steve. I also found in

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME - FUTHER QUESTION

2013-03-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Wilie, You are correct. Since the problem is with a PROCLIB, restoring it to the same Volume is not as relevant as restoring to the same TTRs. If it gets restored to the same volume, but not the same TTRs, then you will still need to open/close proclibs in-order to get JES2 to refresh its

Re: Lost datagrams on z/OS 1.12?

2013-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
Good question. The big problem is at one customer. We have another customer -- z/OS release number question still pending -- that is running the possibly problematic code with no issue. There was one POC where the prospect installed the product, which supports the use of TCP or UDP. The

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/22/2013 04:31 AM, Ravi Gaur wrote: We had a very weird situation where one of the TSO user compressed the PDS dataset which had 6000+ members however eventually the JCL in all of these members got similar atmost ..so look like during stow somehow same memory overlaid or Directory TTR

Re: Lost datagrams on z/OS 1.12?

2013-03-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: Good question. The big problem is at one customer. Thanks. That could helps you to narrow your search to a solution. So the answer to your question is a little unclear. 1 or 2 customers out of 3. Ok. Then I'm out of ideas and any possible contributions to your problem

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread Hervey Martinez
From the message, it appears that the volume SMTP17 is an SMS volume but the command has FORCENONSMS. A file can be recalled to a non-sms volume..have done it several times. Regards, Hervey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Fw: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
- Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:18:10 To: eamacn...@yahoo.ca Reply-To: donbwms+re...@gmail.com Subject: RE: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future Great

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread willie bunter
Hervey,   Thanks.  I tried the FORENONSMS because it was suggested.  From: Hervey Martinez hervey.marti...@custserv.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:47:24 AM Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

Re: Speed up DASD copy

2013-03-22 Thread David Devine
Hello, with regard to the undocumented use of the optimize parameter on dfdss copy, those nice people at Ibm in Dfdss RD have opened a marketing req to get it fully supported and also an apar which will ignore it if coded with copy. We have the following Marketing Requirement opened: User

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Noticing that this thread continues to focus on how to make a recall of the PROCLIB dataset work, I think it should be re-emphasized that any managed data set that is essential to the proper functioning of JES2, or any other critical started task at your site, should really be assigned a

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Mike Duffy
I seem to recall that a utility which may still be around called 'Ditto' could perform this kind of recovery/magic. Perhaps someone with a better memory could confirm or deny. Mike Duffy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread Ron Thomas
Hello. Could some one let us know how to create a process which extracts all copybooks from a program and looks in to the copybook library and check if it exists , if exists reads the copybook variables in the copybook and search in the program and writes the lines which uses the variable

Re: Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
This is easy by Rexx. Phase 1Do an EXECIO to read the source into a stem. The parse for the word copy and lines that are not marked with an asterisk at column 7. For each copy member name, create an entry the copies stem. You can make the rest of phases easier if you remove all Cobol reserved

Re: Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/cobol-glossary.html Search for 'cobol cross reference' On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Could some one let us know how to create a process which extracts all copybooks from a program and looks in

Re: Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you have a change control product (chgman, endevor erc)? They have this usually as part of the product Do you use sclm? Otherwise, you will be building this process. Check the cbttape.org and see if there is something there. Lizette -Original Message- From: Ron Thomas

Re: Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
As one who has done it as part of a larger product, it is a bear. If you don't mind a few false positives, then just parsing for the word COPY and picking off the next token (as someone else wrote), and optionally OF ddname, will get you there. COBOL syntax is downright ugly, and doing it

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Ed Finnell
FIXPDS does a good job of recovering 'old' copies of members. Have used it many times for broken and not backed up datasets. Some groups are worse than others about compressing w/o looking at condition codes! In a message dated 3/22/2013 4:47:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread John McKown
Personally, I'd really prefer to have someone do a compile of the source, using the ADATA compile parameter. Output the ADATA to a sequential data set (or member of a PDS), then read that. The compiler has done 99.9% of the hard work at this point. ADATA reference:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME

2013-03-22 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING DSN TO ITS ORIGINAL VOLUME Noticing that this thread

Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-22 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
My mistake about after. How about during? On the TSO logon panel, if you enter the correct passphrase, do you also need to enter the current password when you enter a new password? I would test it but we don't have phrases active. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Abend0C4 in AHLTUSR

2013-03-22 Thread Jim Mulder
Unfortunately GTF terminates itself with a dump of title DUMP OF GTF MODULE AHLTUSR. Again unfortunately, that dump does not contain any system trace table. All I have for debugging is the (2) logrec entries for this: PSW: 04041001 8000 05D02EB8 INSTRUCTION LENGTH: 06

Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 March 2013 14:50, EXT-Schwarz, Barry barry.schw...@boeing.com wrote: My mistake about after. How about during? On the TSO logon panel, if you enter the correct passphrase, do you also need to enter the current password when you enter a new password? I would test it but we don't have

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 March 2013 09:43, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote: I'm going to ask a dumb question. I do not expect an answer. Did you have the SYSUT3 and SYSUT4 DDs specified? If so, were they specified in CYL not TRK, and with NO secondary, and CONTIG? I'm not sure whether you're asking

Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

2013-03-22 Thread Peter Hendler
I graduated from University of Florida (UFL) and am currently running a computer firm in Florida. I have attended WORLDCOMP conference (see http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 for details) in 2010. Except for few keynote speeches and presentations, the conference was very disappointing due

Re: PDS Compress

2013-03-22 Thread Ed Gould
Tony, A LONG time ago and far far away we leaned a couple of lessons about IEBCOPY. Its a great utility and it must be used with care. SMPE was a user of IEBCOPY and we greatly speeded it up by passing the parm SIZE=MAX and along with specifying a large size=(8192K,99K) on the linkage

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2013-03-22 Thread Kevin Minerley
I am out of the office until 03/27/2013. Passover prep and first day of Passover. IF an emergency, call 845-901-2328. Note: This is an automated response to your message Re: PDS Compress sent on 03/22/2013 16:37:46. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away.

Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:18:48 -0400, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: In the long term, of course, RACF will surely change to allow phrases to be as short as anyone likes, subject only to installation control, and passwords to be optional, and then we'll have by a very long and roundabout

Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On 22 March 2013 14:50, EXT-Schwarz, Barry barry.schw...@boeing.com wrote: My mistake about after. How about during? On the TSO logon panel, if you enter the correct passphrase, do you also need to enter the current password when you enter a new password? I would test it but we don't

Re: Parsing cobol code for copybooks

2013-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
Excellent advice. The compiler has done 99.9% of the hard work at this point. And done it exactly the way the compiler does it -- in other words, this moots my last point about the syntactically questionable program. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List