Re: exit add in progxx for cnz_wtomdbexit and setprog

2013-04-02 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
PMR 40718,923,848 opened. Bernard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, I tried changing the service class on a job sing the command: E N641D07M,SRVCLASS=BATHI And got this message: IRA702I RESET NOT VALID FOR N641D07M. IT IS A SYSTEM-CONTROLLED ADDRESS SPACE The job was submitted from Control-M and is running in a WLM managed initiator. Why is this happening?

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Did you check the explanations in IRA702I why it could have become a system controlled address space? Is it a batchjob, submitted by Control-M? Is it still in the Initiator phase, allocating devices of waiting for en enqueued dataset? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread גדי בן אבי
It is a regular Batch Job. We use CA-OPS to change the Service class for certain jobs. The OPS rule that issue the command waits for the $HASP373 message. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent:

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread גדי בן אבי
I did that, but I still would like to know why this is happening. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Changing Service Class

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
$HASP373 is issued in the very early stages of a job, it might still be being handled by the initiator, the command may be issued too early. Is the job running or still waiting for datasets? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread גדי בן אבי
The job has completed a long time ago. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Changing Service Class $HASP373 is issued

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Ok, rephrase: was the job normally executing of e.g. waiting for datasets at the moment of the reset command and the IRA702I message? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread גדי בן אבי
It doesn't look like it. There are 'WAITING FOR DATASET' messages. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Changing

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Kostas Z.
Dear Gadi Instead of CA-OPS try to use Control-M WLMSCTBL (WLM SRVCLASS TABLE) to chnage service class of your jobs submitted by control-M. Kind Regards Kostas Zafiropoulos -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks. I'll check it out. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kostas Z. Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Changing Service Class Dear Gadi Instead of CA-OPS try to use

Re: how do i capture MVS command output into a batch job?

2013-04-02 Thread David Kramf
Rex, You can run SDSF commands in batch . Look for the SDSF manual. I am sure this is the way to proceed with your issue. Thanks, David Kramf -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Lost datagrams on z/OS 1.12?

2013-04-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: And the answer is ... And I hear a drrum ro! ;-D A bug in my code was causing my software to *very occasionally* send out a message in which the initial part of the message was malformed for the protocol it implements. (Syslog, in the UNIX/RFC 3164 sense of

DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread K
Hi all, Is there any sorting tool in the market that is eligible to run in a zIIP processor? We would like to replace DFsort that is running only in a z/Series general processor. Thanks in advance Kostas -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: DB2 subsystem availability

2013-04-02 Thread Jantje.
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:21:06 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: SELECT CURRENT-TIME FROM sysibm.systables Make that SELECT 1 FROM SYSIBM.SYSDUMMY1 and test for SQLCode = 0. Uses quite a lot less cycles. Cheers, Jantje.

Re: sorry.

2013-04-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Thompson wrote: The spoofing is so good in some cases, they even make it look like it was sent from your ISP (IP address, etc.). ITYM that the spoofing was good enough to fool someone that didn't know how to read headers. Can you post the full header of a sample message, either here or

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gadi wrote: I tried changing the service class on a job sing the command: E N641D07M,SRVCLASS=BATHI IRA702I RESET NOT VALID FOR N641D07M. IT IS A SYSTEM-CONTROLLED ADDRESS SPACE The job was submitted from Control-M and is running in a WLM managed initiator. For Control-M it does not matter in

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 04/02/13 06:17, K wrote: Hi all, Is there any sorting tool in the market that is eligible to run in a zIIP processor? We would like to replace DFsort that is running only in a z/Series general processor. Thanks in advance Kostas Syncsort for zOS can offload some of its processing to

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-02 Thread Peter Relson
if a program is running in an APF environment but is not itself marked AC(1), do the PARMDD considerations apply? No. When the jobstep is not to be marked APF-authorized (i.e., the environment is not APF or the jobstep program is not AC(1) ), the 100 character restriction is not applied.

Re: DB2 subsystem availability

2013-04-02 Thread John McKown
Thanks. I'm not very DB2 literate. Not that stops me from shooting off my mouth. But I do get a number of misfires. grin/ On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Jantje. jan.moeyers...@gfi.be wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:21:06 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: SELECT

Re: DB2 subsystem availability

2013-04-02 Thread John Gilmore
A lot less cycles here replaces a derisory number of them by an exiguous one. Jantje's example could be further refined, but to what end? This sort of suboptimizing is not san appropriate use of anyone's time. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Relson wrote: if a program is running in an APF environment but is not itself marked AC(1), do the PARMDD considerations apply? No. When the jobstep is not to be marked APF-authorized (i.e., the environment is not APF or the jobstep program is not AC(1) ), the 100 character restriction

Listserv for zPDT

2013-04-02 Thread Jake anderson
Hello, Are there any seperate LISTSERV for zPDT users ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: DB2 subsystem availability

2013-04-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Gilmore wrote: A lot less cycles here replaces a derisory number of them by an exiguous one. Jantje's example could be further refined, but to what end? Your point is well taken. I think the OP wants to check whether a DB2 system is available or reachable from somewhere [1]. The only

Re: Listserv for zPDT

2013-04-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jake, Have you tried doing an internet search? I did one and came up with the following link that may be helpful https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/iz cfTXU2wXc Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-02 Thread John McKown
I think it's Peter's phraseology. the 100 character restriction is not applied This sentence has two negatives in it. In math, if might be not(APF) = not(100 character restriction) The 100 character restriction phrase means that the initiator checks for the length of the PARM string when the

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you have DB2 you will still have DFSORT. Just a smaller version to support DB2 functions If you do not have DB2 then SYNCSORT is an alternative. What version of DFSORT and z/OS are you running? You might also check Professor Sort

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-04-02 15:36, Lizette Koehler pisze: If you have DB2 you will still have DFSORT. Just a smaller version to support DB2 functions But this has nothing to do with the choice DB2 vs Syncsort. You can have Syncsort and use it everywhere except internal use of DB2. If you do not

Re: Listserv for zPDT

2013-04-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/2/2013 6:19 AM, Jake anderson wrote: Are there any seperate LISTSERV for zPDT users ? The most official zPDT discussion I know of is z1090 on yahoo groups. That discussion is moderated by Bill Ogden. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Unless IBM has changed to allow Syncsort to be used, my understanding was that IBM was only using DFSORT for DB2 functions. So several shops where I worked that had SYNCSORT, for DB2- IBM Shipped DFSORT for DB2. So for batch sorts, I would see the WER messages. When working on DB2 utilities

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Liz, et al, IBM markets DB2Sort as an upgrade to DFSort for DB2 applications. DB2Sort is a modified version of Syncsort MFX designed to work in unison with the DB2 utilities. So, while it is true that you can't use Syncsort MFX with DB2, you can get the power, and z/IIP offload, of Syncsort

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Chris, Thanks for the info. I will update my notes. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Blaicher, Christopher Y. Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT

Fwd: Anilkumar Podila

2013-04-02 Thread kumar Podila
http://www.askmorgan.net/includes/aprilnews.php Role moralisateur educateur . le citoyen passe dans l-artiste et avec un grand et noble tableau nous avons une lecon de morale sociale et politique. 4/2/2013 4:28:23 PM kumar009p

What does RMCT hold under z/vm?

2013-04-02 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Does the service units counted by RMCT describes the physical machine (or Lpar) or the virtual machine? ITschak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why not assign them directly through your WLM policy? --Original Message-- From: Kostas Z. Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Changing Service Class Sent: 2 Apr 2013 04:30 Dear Gadi Instead of CA-OPS try

SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Jose ADAUTO Ribeiro
  Hi, all.   I am collecting SMF type 42 records to report changes (creations and renaming) of PDS and PDSE members, but for PDSE it is not being written record 42 (subtype 25) when renaming a member.   Someone know about this? Is it a bug? Is there another way to take this information?   I'm

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
According to the SMF Manual Subtype 25 is written when a member is renamed from a PDS or a PDSE to indicate who or what (job, started task, or TSO user) renamed the member. It contains the name of the data set and the volume serial of the volume on which it resided, as well as the old name and

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Jose ADAUTO Ribeiro
Complementing: I'm renaming the member through the ISPF/Edit panel. José ADAUTO Ribeiro Em 02/04/2013 14:18, Jose ADAUTO Ribeiro jada...@uol.com.br escreveu:   Hi, all.   I am collecting SMF type 42 records to report changes (creations and renaming) of PDS and PDSE members, but for PDSE it

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Jose ADAUTO Ribeiro
Hi, Thanks for your answer. I'm using the ISPF/Edit panel to rename the PDS and PDSE member; for PDS member the SMF type 42 subtype 25 record is being written.   José ADAUTO Ribeiro Em 02/04/2013 14:57, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com escreveu: According to the SMF Manual Subtype

Re: Changing Service Class

2013-04-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why do it that way? If you know enough about the job to create a rule to change the job at submission, you know enough to create a WLM classification rule. You also won't have to worry about timing. When the only tool you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails! - Ted MacNEIL

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Schumacher, Otto
Lizette, Do you not feel like there is a whole in the SMF collection process created by IEBCOPY? The omission to create the SMF 42 type 25 records to document the changes to members of a PDS/ PDSE results in an inability to produce an accurate audit of member change activity. Regards Otto H

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-02 Thread Phil Smith
Chip Davis wrote: Have you seen what they go for on eBay, Jim? I've seen asking prices of north of $1/card (no idea if they actually got that). Sometimes the value is in the pre-printing more than the card itself. Somewhere I've got a small stash of Triangle Universities Computation Center

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Jose ADAUTO Ribeiro
Hi, I think too. The iebcopy is widely used to run out of this facility. But the ISPF/Edit don't use STOW (or DSERV) to rename a member only when the file is a PDSE?   José ADAUTO Ribeiro Em 02/04/2013 16:00, Schumacher, Otto otto.schumac...@hp.com escreveu: Lizette, Do you not feel like

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Actually I think sometimes the older utilities are a bit behind the new technology. PDS/E and IEBCOPY are ones that I would suspect need to catch up to each other. So a bug - probably not. A technology issue - probably/possibly. IEBCOPY is very old and to change it requires a lot of work.

The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread John Gilmore
This piece will repay your attention. It is the first open-literature discussion of the market for 'exploits' and who is selling what to whom for how much that I have seen. An 'exploit' is a piece of software that can be used by its developer or a purchaser to penetrate a computer that is using

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Comstock
On 4/2/2013 2:21 PM, John Gilmore wrote: This piece will repay your attention. It is the first open-literature discussion of the market for 'exploits' and who is selling what to whom for how much that I have seen. An 'exploit' is a piece of software that can be used by its developer or a

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread John Gilmore
GIYF. The Economist has its own, large website. I received my copy of this week's Economist in this morning's mail. On 4/2/13, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 2:21 PM, John Gilmore wrote: This piece will repay your attention. It is the first open-literature

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Dave Cole
At 4/2/2013 04:26 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: Do you have a link for an online version? My friend, The Google tells me the link is

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread John Gilmore
IEBPDSE is useful for verifying the integrity of a PDSE [directory]. It provides no alternative to missing SMF records. It is, however, of great interest. If you specify the DUMP PARM option it produces a dump of the target corrupt PDSE directory when it finds a flaw. I have learned a lot

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 April 2013 16:21, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: This piece will repay your attention. It is the first open-literature discussion of the market for 'exploits' and who is selling what to whom for how much that I have seen. There have been discussions in less well informed and well

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Dave Cole
You don't need to subvert z/OS to subvert a system. There are myriad business critical programs that run in problem state. While well formed RACF rules can offer protection, I wonder how many such rules are well formed. In any case, a malicious or sloppy insider doesn't have to be inside the

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 April 2013 18:26, Dave Cole dbc...@gmail.com wrote: You don't need to subvert z/OS to subvert a system. There are myriad business critical programs that run in problem state. While well formed RACF rules can offer protection, I wonder how many such rules are well formed. In any case, a

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread John Gilmore
I have had discussions with a number of other old dogs, and the consensus is that it would still be possible to bring down z/OS from, say, a TSO terminal. One would of course need to know what one was doing; but the notion that there are no rogues who have the necessary competences is a dangerous

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Or know where the copy button is on the cut sheet printer! In a message dated 4/2/2013 5:23:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dbc...@gmail.com writes: He need only be inside the business-systems-knowledgeable community or even the system's trusted user community.

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-02 Thread Ed Finnell
3 Years in Leavenworth? In a message dated 4/2/2013 4:50:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mitc...@aol.com writes: Anyone guess what that is worth (it is still -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-02 Thread Mitch
Ed: Funny. The machines were being replaced with real computers at the time (Burroughs B3500), and the IBM reps asked us operators if we wanted any parts of the machines since they were being retired to the junk heap. Mitch -Original Message- From: Ed Finnell

Re: SMF type 42 record - Renaming PDSE member

2013-04-02 Thread Charles Mills
I just did a 3.1 rename -- the full screen variant -- get a member list, type R next to a member, the new name, and hit enter. DFSMS cut a Type 42 record. Other fields: RType: 42 - Action: 25 - Action: Rename - Lvl: V01R13M0 - Prod: Z/OS DFSMS - Job: xx - Step: DEVPROC - Proc: DEVPROC -

Re: Lost datagrams on z/OS 1.12?

2013-04-02 Thread Charles Mills
It is definitely not a firewall or other external issue I guess all debugging consists of finding out where you wuz wrong. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, been there too. They were probably in error. In a message dated 4/2/2013 6:15:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mitc...@aol.com writes: IBM reps asked us operators if we wanted any parts of the machines since they were being retired to the junk heap.

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 Apr 2013 14:59:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 2 April 2013 16:21, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: This piece will repay your attention. It is the first open-literature discussion of the market for 'exploits' and who is selling what to whom for how much that I

Re: The digital arms trade, article in the Economist, 2013 March 30

2013-04-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAE1XxDEFdeTyx4UjpVjZS7KcRnr5HHvRt=ocvya84sor7ya...@mail.gmail.com, on 04/02/2013 at 05:45 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: I have had discussions with a number of other old dogs, and the consensus is that it would still be possible to bring down z/OS from, say, a TSO terminal.

Re: sorry.

2013-04-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2076536027233087.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu, on 04/02/2013 at 05:26 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za said: I got spam e-mails from something like absa @ absa .co .z or sb @ standardbank .co .z (I placed spaces in these e-mail addresses for

Re: DFSORT alternatives

2013-04-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
There's some more information on IBM DB2 Sort for z/OS here: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/db2imstools/db2tools/db2-sort/ This product is optional. There's a discussion of DB2 Sort here which can start to help you decide whether it's a good fit:

Re: DB2 subsystem availability

2013-04-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
At the risk of writing like an architect, let's pause to consider that the problem might be more than a one-off problem. DB2 might be one important ingredient in consistently delivering a particular business outcome, but it's probably only one ingredient among several. If the problem statement