Re: To recompile or not recompile, that's the question

2013-06-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 6/3/2013 10:38 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Il a les défauts de ses qualités. To wit, the continued reliance on 24-bit addressing. I think that IBM has no tolerable choice in this. Clients have major investments in functional software, and I can't see them rewriting solely for

VLF or PDSE cache

2013-06-04 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Maybe the VLF can help me, but I don't see clearly how. We have test job-streams with a large number of test jobs(50-500 job), every job uses the same STEPLIB, and a number of other datasets, they are same in the job-stream. (all are PDSE datasets, parameter and message members) From the

second TCPIP stack

2013-06-04 Thread Jim McAlpine
I want to set up a second TCPIP stack to do some testing. I have the following coded in BPXPRMxx. FILESYSTYPE TYPE(INET) ENTRYPOINT(EZBPFINI) SUBFILESYSTYPE NAME(TCPIP) TYPE(INET) ENTRYPOINT(EZBPFINI) NETWORK DOMAINNAME(AF_INET) DOMAINNUMBER(2) MAXSOCKETS(3)

JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread baby eklavya
Hello , We are running Z/OS 1.11 in our environment and recently had a problem with Auto-sched jobs in Jobtrac . There were a set of auto-sched jobs which comes to JES2 and jobtrac puts a HOLD on it by design (for Auto-sched processing) . Later ,Jobtrac issues a release command to free them for

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread Doug Henry
How many convertor tasks are you running? You can find out by command $DPCE(CNVT). What is the jobdef option cnvt_enq set to ? You can find out by command $JOBDEF,CNVT_ENQ ? Doug On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:03:39 +0530, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.com wrote: It was found that JES2 conversion

Re: VLF or PDSE cache

2013-06-04 Thread Ron Hawkins
Miklos, As it is a PDSE load library, LLA freeze can probably help you first. VLF will not do anything for PDSE that are not load library or REXX. You'll need to tune your PDSE buffering parms to get improvements. Lizette has a lot of experience with this... Ron -Original Message-

Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Steve Thompson
I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false positive hits is astounding. What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS. The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now gives a 404. Regards, Steve Thompson

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Haley
Howdy, Check this site, http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/listserv.html Regards, Neil Haley nha...@ca.ibm.com Storage Software Mainframe Support http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ | http://www.about.me/NeilHaley From: Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date:

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Actually there is definitely a LINUX, VM and other similar newsgroups. The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:32 AM

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread John McKown
mailto:lists...@listserv.uark.edu subscribe vmesa-l Steve Thompson or go to: http://listserv.uark.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=VMESA-L On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Neil Haley nha...@ca.ibm.com wrote: Howdy, Check this site, http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/listserv.html Regards, Neil Haley

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I should have added To subscribe, send mail to lists...@listserv.uark.edu with the command (paste it!) in the e-mail message body: SUBSCRIBE IBMVM Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent:

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Regan
The 'master' list of all discussion lists using listserver is at http://www.lsoft.com/lists/list_q.html   Thanks, Mark Regan - Original Message - From: Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: Gives There a

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Steve Thompson
From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Date: 06/04/2013 11:55 AM Actually there is definitely a LINUX, VM and other similar newsgroups. The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu Lizette Thanx. I knew it existed, I just couldn't remember the domain.

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 June 2013 11:31, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS. Well... There's nothing to say that VM topics shouldn't be discussed on IBM-MAIN. Certainly most of the discussion is closely related to z/OS, but this list is not

DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-04 Thread esmie moo
Gentle Readers,   I am looking at the ARCCMD parm and I was wondering what the significance of this ADDVOL parm for PRIMARYvolume   ADDVOL SYS009 PRIMARY(NOAM AREC NOAB NOAD MIGRATE(10)) UNIT(3390) ADDVOL SYS010 PRIMARY(NOAM AREC NOAB NOAD MIGRATE(10)) UNIT(3390) ADDVOL SYS011 PRIMARY(NOAM AREC

Re: To recompile or not recompile, that's the question

2013-06-04 Thread John Gilmore
Gerhard Postpischil wrote: begin extract I think that IBM has no tolerable choice in this. Clients have major investments in functional software, and I can't see them rewriting solely for modernization, and I cannot see IBM forcing the issue. /end extract and I am sure that he is right about how

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread baby eklavya
Hello Doug , Thanks for your response . $DPCE(CNVT) indicates 4 PCE's defined and created $HASP653 PCE(CNVT) COUNT=(4,4,0),ACTIVE=0,TRACE=NO Also , CNVT_ENQ is set to FAIL On 6/4/13, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: You may also wish to look at the $JD commands (HISTORY,

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread Doug Henry
I would wonder if you had 4 jobs that were using jcllib and were waiting on an HSM recall. Check out this Share presentation for a very good explanation of possible converter perfomance issues. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/jes2/Share104/s2663lp1.pdf Doug On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 22:14:38 +0530,

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread baby eklavya
Hello Lizette , Thanks for your inputs . $JD commands look normal . Our environment has a MAS setup with 3 systems .We have more than 15000 Auto Sched jobs in our daily cycle . As far as i know , there are many jobs submitted at the same time (approx 20 - 30) ,but this problem doesn't happen all

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Ed Finnell
But all lists don't use Lsoft. Sam has a link to lists on _www.cbttape.org_ (http://www.cbttape.org) (down left hand side) but the last time I tried it a few of the lists had moved! Chuckie has been a long time participant with ibm-main although his responsibilities have shifted. In a

Check out IBM buys SoftLayer as part of public cloud push | PCWorld

2013-06-04 Thread Ed Finnell
_IBM buys SoftLayer as part of public cloud push | PCWorld_ (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040723/ibm-buys-softlayer-as-part-of-public-cloud-push.htm l) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: To recompile or not recompile, that's the question

2013-06-04 Thread Schneider, Laura - RD, St. Louis, MO
Well said!!! Laura Schneider, DCIO, TSSCD, DMSB Rural Development U.S. Department of Agriculture 4300 Goodfellow Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63102 Phone: 314-457-4922 www.rurdev.usda.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread Doug Henry
I would suggest you run with more converter tasks. We have ours set at the max allowed (10). I would also question the amount hold and dormancy time you have for the checkpoint for each system. Lizette's question about other datasets on the checkpoint volume is also very important. Doug On

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-04 Thread Staller, Allan
The addvol command is used to define non-SMS managed volumes to DFHSM. SMS managed volumes are defined in the MGMTCLAS/STORGRP ACS constructs. Deciphering: ADDVOL SYS009 PRIMARY(NOAM AREC NOAB NOAD MIGRATE(10)) NOAM - NO AUTOMIGRATION AREC - AUTORECALL NOAB - NO AUTOBACKUP NOAD - NO AUTODUMP

Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Ed Finnell
_Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace ALL your passwords | Mail Online_ (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2333203/Moto-X-Motorola-reveals-plans-ink-pills-replace-ALL-passwords.html?ito =feeds-newsxml) When was it T.J. Watson got in so much trouble

Modifying compiler input

2013-06-04 Thread John McKown
I known that most, if not all, of the IBM compilers have exits which allow a person to supply or modify both input and/or output records. I have used this with a freeware program called FLOWASM for HLASM, which allows free form assembler statements. What I am wondering is if anybody would really

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/04/2013 01:02 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: _Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace ALL your passwords | Mail Online_ (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2333203/Moto-X-Motorola-reveals-plans-ink-pills-replace-ALL-passwords.html?ito =feeds-newsxml) When

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Ken Porowski
Strain the sewer lines out of the pentagon for the little pills CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential

Re: Modifying compiler input

2013-06-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
With PL/1, for example, many of the things you want can be done IMHO using the PL/1 preprocessor facility. We use it for example to enforce some site rules, for example: some PL/1 statements which must not be used at our site. The macro statements which do this are included in a startup macro

Re: Modifying compiler input

2013-06-04 Thread John McKown
COBOL does not seem to have anything like the PL/1 preprocessor. Or even the shudder/ C preprocessor. Hum, I guess it would be possible to use the C preprocessor despite not having a C license. I don't know if it will run or not. In any case, this sort of preprocessor is not what I would really

Re: VSCR (was: Examples of getbuf and build usage)

2013-06-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 11:02:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:08:19 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: Why do you continue to refer to the area between 2GB and 4GB as Within the bar? While it is true that some early presentations depicted the bar as having a thickness of 2 GB,

Re: second TCPIP stack

2013-06-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
You need to use CINET instead of INET. I did it years ago w/IPL. No idea if it can be done dynamically, but I doubt it. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: VSCR (was: Examples of getbuf and build usage)

2013-06-04 Thread John Gilmore
There was a period during which virtual storage immediately above the bar was not allocated. The rationale for not doing so was that incorrect AMODE(31) address arithmetic could yield values in that range. I have no personal experience of the usefulness of this convention, but several

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
sthomp...@us.ibm.com (Steve Thompson) writes: I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false positive hits is astounding. What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS. The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now gives

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread Baby Eklavya
We dont have any other datasets on the checkpoint volume . I would also plan to increase the no of converter tasks . Regards, Baby(Sachin) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - SIGNIFICANCE OF ADDVOL PARM

2013-06-04 Thread Mike Schwab
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.arcf000/hr1003.htm Datasets migrated from a volume in the pool are recalled to any volume in the pool. If a dataset is APF authorized for a particular volume, migrating and recalling to another volume would make it

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote: On 06/04/2013 01:02 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: _Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace ALL your passwords | Mail Online_

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread baby eklavya
Hello Doug , We had this problem 2 or 3 times in past few months . But each time , 4 jobs were affected (coincidence or not ) .Jobtrac by design issues the $AJ command after 500 Milliseconds once it puts the HOLD . In that case , the JCL conversion should have crossed more than 500 Milliseconds

command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread gsg
We have been told by auditors that all of our JES2 JOBCLASSes should have COMMAND=VERIFY. This would protect from someone coding an unauthorized command in a JCL that could go undetected. Has anyone else ran into this type of problem and if so, how did you protect against it vs. coding

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:30:44 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2333203/Moto-X-Motorola-reveals-plans-ink-pills-replace-ALL-passwords.html?ito=feeds-newsxml ) The RF card in most badge reader only transmit in response to a nearby reader emitting the

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread John McKown
Have IT management risk accept they way you need. Then tell the auditors that. Auditors do not have any authority beyond what management gives them. This assumes management has tener cojones. On Jun 4, 2013 5:49 PM, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: We have been told by auditors that all of our JES2

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread gsg
Unfortunately, no one wants to challenge audit. I can understand the the risk, but just not this solution. It will create too many replies for the operators. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:05:04 -0500, gsg wrote: Unfortunately, no one wants to challenge audit. I can understand the the risk, but just not this solution. It will create too many replies for the operators. It's the boy-who-cried-wolf. Automate it. The auditors will moan that you shouldn't

Re: VSCR (was: Examples of getbuf and build usage)

2013-06-04 Thread DASDBILL2
It appears that IBM's intent in defining the bar was to make it equal to the point where 31-bit addressing was no longer possible and any further addressability required 32 or more bits. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN - Original Message - From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread Skip Robinson
We have run COMMAND=IGNORE for as long as I can remember. There are other far better and more controlled ways to issue commands. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes: If the final verdict has not yet been reached on whether or not there is any increased health risk from having a cell-phone transmitter next to your head for prolonged periods, the idea of having a permanent RF transmitter internally or attached to my

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread gsg
That is one thought we had and we'll be doing some testing for that. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread Karl Huf
Or . . . work with your Comp Ops to project how many Operators would need to be hired to properly respond to all of the new message traffic and project out the increase to annual expense. Then see who wants to sign off on that. Setting the value to command=ignore wasn't what they told you to

Re: Check out Moto X: Motorola reveals plans for ink and even pills to replace AL

2013-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes: There are car thieves who get a pair of transmitters. One is held near the car and sends the car's query signal to the other receiver. The other receiver is near the person leaving the car. It get's the car's query and responds. This is sent

Re: Modifying compiler input

2013-06-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I don't really know it, but I believe that the C compiler is part of z/OS. At least its versioning is the same as the z/OS versioning. But maybe it still needs a separate license. I don't know, because we have it (and need it) for at least 20 years now (maybe more). The C preprocessor is in

Re: JES2 conversion delay

2013-06-04 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 03:46 +0530 on 06/05/2013, baby eklavya wrote about Re: JES2 conversion delay: Hello Doug , We had this problem 2 or 3 times in past few months . But each time , 4 jobs were affected (coincidence or not ) .Jobtrac by design issues the $AJ command after 500 Milliseconds once it puts the

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread retired mainframer
Am I the only one curious why your batch jobs have that many operator commands in the JCL? What we did was specify command=verify for all classes except one and we restricted that class so only sysprogs and operators could submit jobs in it. :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Two weeks ago, I told you about tests with our table system, which holds read-only data for our insurance math package. The data was stored in DB2 tables until now, and we tried to get better CPU usage etc. by moving the data to our file based table system, which we have in the Windows and Unix

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-04 Thread David Crayford
Did you try using a ZFS file system? On my system freads()/fwrites() to a unix file are significantly faster than QSAM/BSAM. On 5/06/2013 9:33 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Two weeks ago, I told you about tests with our table system, which holds read-only data for our insurance math package. The

Re: VSCR (was: Examples of getbuf and build usage)

2013-06-04 Thread John Gilmore
Yes and yes again. I suspect that musical chairs was more important than denotation here: Since 'line' was unavailable because already in use, 'bar' was chosen--well chosen in my view--to disambiguate the demarcations of AMODE(64) and AMODE(31) address spaces. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 -

Re: command=verify

2013-06-04 Thread Ed Gould
We never allowed *ANY* commands to come through a reader (of any type). The programmers had a field day with this until I put the rules in place. Got a few gripes from programmers but nothing to management. My management (and the auditors) were strictly against commands from readers. There

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-06-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Yes, I guess, that the freads on ZFS will be faster, but: - the customer wants the files to be classical z/OS data sets, and - because of the cache (least recently used algoritm), the I/O delays are of no real concern any more - the elapsed time is much better than in the DB2 case, anyway.

FCP CHIP id

2013-06-04 Thread Jake anderson
Hello Group, I was in process of modifying my current IODF and did below changes. 1) Added few more Chip id's including type of FC, OSD 2) added few more partition. 3) All these CHIP id, where I am getting below issue belong to FCP type now when I am trying to active this new