Re: IBM getting out of the Ed business?

2013-07-21 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/20/2013 9:26 PM, Ed Gould wrote: Big Blue cedes software and systems training biz to partners http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2013/07/16/ibm_software_systems_training_channel/ *IF* this is true... is Z/os may not be far behind. Why? What's the connection? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix

Re: DCOLLECT QUESTION -RESULTS PUZZLING -

2013-07-21 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:48:00 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: If you go to CBTTAPE.ORG and go for FILE206, it seems to have a REXX parser for DCOLLECT records Some (not too many) years ago I lifted a cbt offering to mangle dcollect records - needed some mods for what I wanted, but did the job

Re: DCOLLECT QUESTION -RESULTS PUZZLING -

2013-07-21 Thread John McKown
Such as? I will grant that REXX is old. But so are PERL, awk, and many other UNIX tools. Him, perhaps lua. But there is a port of lua to z/OS. A person here was kind enough to send it to me. Oh course, I do the same. But I do it to save on z/OS MSUs. On Jul 21, 2013 2:40 AM, Shane Ginnane

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 51eb3a4c.8010...@gmail.com, on 07/21/2013 at 09:33 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: I don't like it because it's a hack to work around an puzzling issue. I want to know why the optimizer is not generating the correct code. Why not report it as a bug? -- Shmuel

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread David Crayford
On 21/07/2013 8:40 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 51eb3a4c.8010...@gmail.com, on 07/21/2013 at 09:33 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: I don't like it because it's a hack to work around an puzzling issue. I want to know why the optimizer is not generating the correct

Re: Default

2013-07-21 Thread Ron Wells
thanks---the crlf is in data...which is what I was questioning.defaulted in ftpparms.at least it is here... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
Went that route on the last C compiler problem I found. Life is too short. Or at the very least, the project deadline is too short. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Sunday, July

IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share. http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html By Alistair Barr SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that no one ever got fired for buying IBM is a testament to how Big Blue has been the gold

Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Scott Ford
Lizette, Sounds like IBM is expanding their business. Not a bad thing, especially in this economy. Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Interesting article on how

Re: [MVS-OE] Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
That was my attitude last time. No, I am not the least worried about competitors. One, it's a big world with room for everyone; two, the two products I work on have no head-to-head competition; and three, my impression is that an awful lot of Z commercial products are written in assembler, not

Re: IBM vs. Amazon for Cloud

2013-07-21 Thread Shriver, Gregory A
Very interesting article. About a year ago I read that Amazon's profit margins on AWS were north of 40% as compared to 2% for their etailing biz. If you were Amazon,which portion of the business would be most aggresively trying to grow? Anyone who does not think that Amazon is a major IT

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Sorry for jumping late into this thread. Why not spend another variable of type long long to do the shift there? like unsigned long long valueToTest; unsigned int testWord; unsigned long long x; x = valueToTest 32; /* here */ testWord = (int) x; If now in the expression marked with /*

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
BTW: I think I remember from an old book on C programming: if the target of an assignment is int, all operands on the right side are converted to int - if the target of an assignment is long, all operands on the right side are converted to long If I remember correctly, this would perfectly

Re: Encryption of data written to disks FICON channels

2013-07-21 Thread Arye Shemer
Thank you all for the suggestions and comments. First I 'll try to explain the reasoning behind my request. 1. Encryption of 'Data In Rest' is a requirement by local PCI regulation 2. Encryption of 'Data In Rest' is just one step (in probably of many) of data protection required by this

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Harry Wahl
Charles, Hi, here is my opinion (and this definitely falls under the category of obscure C): You are not considering the implications of sequence points in your C/C++. Sequence points should not be confused with operator precedence. Operator precedence is determinate, sequence points are not. I

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
You are 100% correct. You nailed it. Stroustrup p. 263: If both operands have arithmetic type, the right operand is converted to the type of the left preparatory to the assignment. That explains why it fails, but not why it works Opt(0). I am going to *guess* that Opt(0) it compiles as though I

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
Right. There are two things here: 1. Resolving the immediate problem (and understanding exactly why it fails might be a good first step). 2. The quality of the code. You are right; it is poor code. I try to write pretty good code. I take no pride in avoiding the use of unnecessary parentheses. I

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread John Gilmore
Harry Wahl wrote: begin extract It is at the compiler's and optimizer's discretion to decide the order of execution for code that the C++ standard does not specifically define. This includes overlapping execution. /end extract and this may be conceded. What is not in the compiler's and

Re: Default

2013-07-21 Thread John McKown
Just to restate, so that I am sure that I understand. === You have data on z/OS which is textual in nature. I.e. no binary, all human readable text characters You want to transfer this data to Windows and translate it from EBCDIC to ASCII (well Windows-1250 code point really) You do _NOT_ want

Complete Transparency for CA-SPOOL Print Jobs Needed

2013-07-21 Thread Duffy Nightingale
Greetings, Our client has CA-SPOOL with TCP/IP connected PCL printers. We need to know how to setup CA-SPOOL to transmit the ASCII PCL data our product, BPF, generates into JES exactly “as is”, “no translation, no insertion of characters”, to the PCL printers. These printers are connected

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread David Crayford
I'm struggling to see what is wrong with testWord = valueToTest 32. There are no side effects and the sequence point is at the end of the full expression. Can anybody enlighten me? Charles, is the code snippet you supplied the exact test cast that is resulting in undefined behaviour? I cannot

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
Here is exact cut and paste with zero editing, complete with a typo in the second comment. The code is unit tested on MS Visual Studio -- hence the two #ifdef's. // Find First Set static inline int Ffs64(unsigned long long valueToTest) { // returns index of

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-21 Thread Charles Mills
Perhaps more to the point, here are my exact options, minus only some comments: TARG(LE,zOSV1R9) # On 1/10/11 X Y wrote that Z was on z990s ARCH(6) # Force most