Re: $TJOBCLASS(x),XEQMEMBER(xxxx)=MAX=0. Why not?

2013-10-01 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
No, this is a JES2, not WLM command: SYSTA will now not any job in class 0, both JES and WLM managed. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ravi Gaur Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 04:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: DLm2100 and DD4500 Config for MF

2013-10-01 Thread Richard Marchant
Lizette, ML2 data does not dedupe well, 2 to 1 if you are very lucky. DataDomains are a very expensive option if the dedupe ratio is poor. Ask EMC if they have other disk options that can be placed behind their DLM boxes that just have normal compression and replication features, it should

Re: $TJOBCLASS(x),XEQMEMBER(xxxx)=MAX=0. Why not?[SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2013-10-01 Thread Salva Carrasco
Same msg. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: $TJOBCLASS(x),XEQMEMBER(xxxx)=MAX=0. Why not?

2013-10-01 Thread Salva Carrasco
Good for me, thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote on Slashdot.org On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:51:29 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:21:15 +0800, David Crayford wrote: I programmed in PL/I professionally and IMO Pascal is a far cleaner language with more expressive features. Pascals successors, such as Module/2 and Delphi, widen the gap even more. I would never profess to have programmed in PL/I - I was

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Thomas Berg
Personally I am of the opinion that a programming language is for the benefit of the programmer, to be least hindered in the coding. It should help the coding and minimize both syntax pondering and keystrokes. A programming language should not have a role of disciplining the programmer. That

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread David Crayford
On 1/10/2013 7:13 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:21:15 +0800, David Crayford wrote: I programmed in PL/I professionally and IMO Pascal is a far cleaner language with more expressive features. Pascals successors, such as Module/2 and Delphi, widen the gap even more. I would

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
If I take REXX as an example, although it has its limitations and rough edges, it have 4 important advantages IMHO: 1. It lives up the principle of least astonishment in syntax. 2. Its functionality and syntax is oriented towards the end goal of the code effort. 3. It lives up to the KISS

Good news from MFNetDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Shai S
Dear MFNetDisk fan October 1st, 2013 brings a significant change in MFNetDisk history. On that day, a group of mainframe veterans (MFNetDisk team) will take responsibility for MFNetDisk promotion, marketing and sale. I will remain the sole MFNetDisk software owner, main developer and support

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread David Crayford
On 1/10/2013 7:23 PM, Thomas Berg wrote: Personally I am of the opinion that a programming language is for the benefit of the programmer, to be least hindered in the coding. It should help the coding and minimize both syntax pondering and keystrokes. A programming language should not have a

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread John Gilmore
David Crayford wrote begin extract I programmed in PL/I professionally and IMO Pascal is a far cleaner language with more expressive features end extract/ and this is a sentiment that I marvel at. I view Pascal as a toy, a pedagogic language animated by very dubious principles. What I think

Re: Need Help with an ARR

2013-10-01 Thread Peter Relson
Wouldn't SETRP DUMP=YES,DUMPOPX= be the preferred method than SDUMPX? DUMPOPX, providing a SNAP(X) parameter area, has less functionality and flexibility than does SDUMP(X). (On the positive side, it requires no authorization, but if you were estabilshing an ARR, you at least at some point

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread David Crayford
On 1/10/2013 7:51 PM, John Gilmore wrote: David Crayford wrote begin extract I programmed in PL/I professionally and IMO Pascal is a far cleaner language with more expressive features end extract/ and this is a sentiment that I marvel at. I view Pascal as a toy, a pedagogic language animated

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread David Crayford
On 1/10/2013 7:41 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: If I take REXX as an example, although it has its limitations and rough edges, it have 4 important advantages IMHO: 1. It lives up the principle of least astonishment in syntax. 2. Its functionality and syntax is oriented towards the end goal of the

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote on Slashdot.org If I take REXX as an example, although it has its limitations

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote on Slashdot.org On 1/10/2013 7:23 PM, Thomas Berg wrote: Personally I am

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread David Crayford
On 1/10/2013 8:23 PM, Thomas Berg wrote: True, but: 0. I used it as an example of syntax and principles. 1. As I often compile it and if necessary optimize at a high level/use an external tool I seldom have problems with that. (To where did you port what ? Curious if z/OS...) Yes. I

Language development cycle (Perl)

2013-10-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:52:12 +0800, David Crayford wrote: Taking the p**s again Shane! ;-) Sorry ? - what do you mean, again. FWIW, Perl 6 seems to have smoothed out a lot of the rough edges. Never having bothered with Perl, I attended a Linux conference in Canberra in 2005. Went to a Perl

Re: Language development cycle (Perl)

2013-10-01 Thread David Crayford
On 1/10/2013 8:46 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:52:12 +0800, David Crayford wrote: Taking the p**s again Shane! ;-) Sorry ? - what do you mean, again. FWIW, Perl 6 seems to have smoothed out a lot of the rough edges. Never having bothered with Perl, I attended a Linux

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Clark Morris
On 30 Sep 2013 13:26:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:55:14 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: [Pascal] is much concerned to interdict practices, e.g., GOTOs or unconditional branches, that it deems 'unstructured' or 'anarchic'. Pascal has GOTO. Dismayingly,

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:52:16 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: greatest value of GOTO is the longjump; the ability to exit a nest of not only compounds, but also blocks and function calls. I pine for this facility in Rexx, POSIX shell, and C. IBM COBOL has EXIT PROGRAM and GOBACK both of which can be

More mainframe software price rises

2013-10-01 Thread Roger Bowler
Today IBM announces price rises for Cobol, IMS, DB2, MQ, and WebSphere in EMEA, effective January 1, 2014: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/877/ENUSZA13-1127/index.html

Re: New Z announcement

2013-10-01 Thread zMan
The very cynical would say it's about We have computers and software to sell you, some of which can arguably be made to sound like it's Big Data-related. The slightly less cynical would say It's about IBM's Big Data on z offerings. The realistic (where that differs from the cynical--let's not go

TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Not really sure what to title this, so... We currently have a Windows application that uses our terminal emulator's EHLLAPI functionality.  If you have the application running and you hit a particular function key (I think!) while your terminal session is on an account number it will trigger

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Phil Smith
Frank Swarbrick wrote: Not really sure what to title this, so... We currently have a Windows application that uses our terminal emulator's EHLLAPI functionality. If you have the application running and you hit a particular function key (I think!) while your terminal session is on an account

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2013-10-01 11:37, Frank Swarbrick wrote: We currently have a Windows application that uses our terminal emulator's EHLLAPI functionality. For starters, what TN3270 emulator are you using? -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation)

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread John Gilmore
The PL/I leave statement is very different from the C continue and that ilk. Consider outer: . . . ; . . . nested: . . . ; . . . innermost: . . . ; . . . . . . leave ; /* .leaves current group, here innnermost */ if . . . then leave outer ; /* leaves

Sources for learing about state of the art Mainframe Virtual and physical tape?

2013-10-01 Thread Peter Smith
Newbie open systems backup admin. here being thrown into mainframe storage. We have some very old VTS systems and I'm looking for credible education / journals on state of the art in mainframe tape (VTS) storage. Anyone have any reccomendations of online or print journals, trade magazines, blogs?

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:50:51 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: The PL/I leave statement is very different from the C continue and that ilk. But perhaps slightly less different from the C break. Paul Gilmartin will object to these [and other] uses of labels, but they are in fact innocuous. But what

SDK for z/OS

2013-10-01 Thread Kurt Eastwood
Hello, I am planning an upgrade from zos 1.12 to 1.13 and it appears that 5655-N99IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V5 is no longer supported. It appears I need to upgrade SDK to V6 or V7. The doc for SDK V6 and V7 state that some current processes may need changes going to V5 to V6 and/or V7. I

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
We currently have E-Term for IBM from DCSi.  I personally don't like it and really am open to any emulator.  A few of use (myself included) have Attachmate Reflection for IBM.  It seems to have several options, one being a .NET API.  Without really knowing about it it seems like that might do

DSLIST in BATCH

2013-10-01 Thread Rouse, Willie
Hello All, Is there a simple way to run ISPF DSLIST as a batch TSO job? Respectfully, Willie C. Rouse Senior Mainframe Consultant Prince George's County, Maryland Office of Information Technology 9201 Basil Court/ Room B8 Largo, MD 20774 Voice: 301-883-7189 Fax: 301-883-3790

Re: Java SDK for z/OS

2013-10-01 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS912-249 Withdraw announcement includes links to Java SDK for z/OS 1.6 and 1.7, and various manuals. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread John Gilmore
PL/I does check that do and end labels match, but it also permits multiple closure, as in gubbins: do . . . ; nubbins: do . . . ; end gubbins ; /* ends both nubbins and gubbins */ which it notes in a warning message. The unlabeled analogue of this construction is, however, treated as an

Re: DSLIST in BATCH

2013-10-01 Thread efinnell15
Run ISPF in batch? In a message dated 10/01/13 11:29:31 Central Daylight Time, wro...@co.pg.md.us writes: ISPF DSLIST as a batch TSO job? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: DSLIST in BATCH

2013-10-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:29:15 +, Rouse, Willie wro...@co.pg.md.us wrote: Hello All, Is there a simple way to run ISPF DSLIST as a batch TSO job? You can use this JCL as a template: (from http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21023990) //USERAA JOB (ISPF),'ISPF

Re: DSLIST in BATCH

2013-10-01 Thread Rouse, Willie
Mark, Thanks for the info!! Respectfully, Willie C. Rouse Senior Mainframe Consultant Prince George's County, Maryland Office of Information Technology 9201 Basil Court/ Room B8 Largo, MD 20774 Voice: 301-883-7189 Fax: 301-883-3790 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: DSLIST in BATCH

2013-10-01 Thread Mark Zelden
I like my own template better (plus read the comments at the top): //useridI JOB (ACCT),CLASS=A,... // //* //* To get a

NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread David G. Schlecht
Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I’m seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS, a command line ping or dig or nslookup all correctly resolve a domain name. However, issuing the PING or NSLOOKUP command in TSO or PING in batch

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
David, Check the TCP/IP configuration guide for search orders. In the 1.11 level of the manual it is in section 1.2.9.2, called resolver configuration files. OMVS uses a different search order for the resolver than MVS does. My guess is that is where you have to go in order to check what

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
And no, it's not obvious to everybody but you. A few days ago I was looking for something similar and I came across a nice side-by-side chart showing the differences but wasn't able to find it again today. :-( Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: New Z announcement

2013-10-01 Thread zMan
Tsk. Sorry 'bout that, must have confused you. I submit that a real answer to his question was hiding in plain sight: it's IBM's Big Data on z initiative. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: zMan's post, with its tendentious use of a curiously graded set of

Re: SDK for z/OS

2013-10-01 Thread Staller, Allan
I can't tell you how to determine (directly) if the Java5 SDK is in use. It is, however, quite easy to just copy the HFS/ZFS files and provide the appropriate mount points in the 1.13 OMVS file system. The one suggestion I have is to set your External Security Manager to audit all access to the

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Staller, Allan
RSEOLVER is your friend. Ditch all of the local files and use RESOLVER... Check the IP Config Guide for RESOLVER setup HTH, snip Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I'm seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS, a command

Re: Sources for learing about state of the art Mainframe Virtual and physical tape?

2013-10-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
The easiest would be to go to vendor sites to see what they support. Current offerings I know about are from IBM TS7720 EMC DLm Tape solutions Hitachi Fujitsu Luminex Then there is also software tapeless solutions CA VTAPE Or you can search the internet for Virtual Tapes and

Re: Sources for learing about state of the art Mainframe Virtual and physical tape?

2013-10-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
One other solution I forgot is to expand the storage array and eliminate tape by keeping everything on DASD. Not sure what your shop is looking to do, but these are some options. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread David G. Schlecht
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm having no luck. I've compared the TCPDATA member and the OMVS resolv.conf and see no meaningful difference between them. Still the MVS resolver is completely inoperative. I'm inclined to open an SR with IBM and see if they can see what's different. Thanks,

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes: What I think of Pascal and our disagreement are not themselves important; but such differences strongly suggest that discussions of the relative merits of different statement-level procedural languages is an all but futile undertaking unless the

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I worked with PASCAL/VS in the late 80s and early 90s and used it a lot to do technical computations for the Stuttgart local transport company. I built interfaces to SQL/DS (DB2 for VM in todays speak), DMS/PANEL and GDDM - all things that were not available from IBM in those days - and GKS

Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))

2013-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo5_ws5e7yu3assyudh+3hpfigfiqpeghhxx6c4chkcy...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/28/2013 at 10:40 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: I know in the Banking Industry, you have to take one whole week of vacation sometime during the year. What happens if they won't approve leave for the

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread efinnell15
What's the difference in Stanford and UCSD versions? In a message dated 10/01/13 15:05:31 Central Daylight Time, bernd.oppol...@t-online.de writes: Today I am trying to add some - more - extensions to the old Stanford Pascal compiler of 1982 (running on VM/370 R6 on Hercules) with the final

Re: Sources for learing about state of the art Mainframe Virtual and physical tape?

2013-10-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Also this share presentation by Russell Witt could be helpful http://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50sid=1042 The title of the presentation is Tape Virtualization Options You can also use that in an internet search to find a lot more articles on virtual tape and mainframes. Lizette

Re: Sources for learing about state of the art Mainframe Virtual and physical tape?

2013-10-01 Thread Carlos Bodra
It is user and password protect!!! Carlos Bodra IBM Certified Specialist System z Sao Paulo - Brazil Em 01/10/2013 18:06, Lizette Koehler escreveu: Also this share presentation by Russell Witt could be helpful http://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50sid=1042 The title of the presentation

Re: Sources for learing about state of the art Mainframe Virtual and physical tape?

2013-10-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Correct, I mentioned in a previous post that you had to be a member of SHARE.org for their presentations. Though some presentations are in the public arena. But you would need to do an internet search to find them. If you are a member of Share.org, you can search the archives. Lizette

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Charles Mills
Vista is a wonderful product but I don't think it is able to query a database. I just searched the Help and got zero hits on SQL or database, and the one hit on query was about querying its own options settings. You can read or write a sequential file from Vista. If you could get the data from

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Ed Gould
Charles, I would not rush to judgement on this. *IF* it can script a response to a 3270 screen, say enter part number and it send the part number to the host and what ever is returned from the host should be readable and then the script could do its thing. I have a difficult time with this

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I don't know much about UCSD, but AFAIK this is a small PASCAL implementation for microcomputers. The Stanford compiler was a port of the P4 compiler of Niklaus Wirth to the IBM mainframe with some extensions. I took the 1982 version from the McGill University (from the MUSIC/SP system), ported

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-01 Thread Charles Mills
You're right. That is the sort of thing the OP wanted. I was thinking of querying a local database on the PC. IMHO an EHLLAPI program is a better way (NOT a good way LOL!) of doing this than a script. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread efinnell15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCSD_Pascal In a message dated 10/01/13 17:42:33 Central Daylight Time, bernd.oppol...@t-online.de writes: I don't know much about UCSD, but AFAIK this is a small PASCAL implementation -- For

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Thank you. Stanford PASCAL also generates P-Code in the first step, which in the second step is translated to 370 machine code. And: Urs Ammann, who is mentioned in the UCSD article as the creator of the P-code interpreter, which was the origin of the UCSD pascal system, is one of the authors

Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))

2013-10-01 Thread Mike Schwab
Depends on the particular branch, but I assume seniority would decide who gets priority, and the boss would make the final decision. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In cajtoo5_ws5e7yu3assyudh+3hpfigfiqpeghhxx6c4chkcy...@mail.gmail.com,

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On 1 October 2013 20:06, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote: Stanford PASCAL also generates P-Code in the first step, which in the second step is translated to 370 machine code. Interesting; I had thought that P-code was only interpreted. BTW: The P-Code of the 1982 variant of

Re: Good news from MFNetDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Shai S
Hi, Some of you complain that the email of MFNetDisk team is in error and they right. Original message in error: From now on, please contact the MFNetDisk team via email mfnetd...@gmail.com for any issue related to the product. It may include any comments and ideas so together we can make