On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:35:26 -0600, Kevin Minerley wrote:
Until KC is fully in place, we will try to provide quarterly updates of the
elements and features
xks shelves when they change and we do try to ensure the are ALS indexed so
that the
search is nearly that of a BOO (it uses a BKI under
My personal definition of legacy is any new code or system that finally goes
into production. By way of using the word bequeathed, if would be something
from the build team, bequeathed to the run team to operate and now maintain.
Thanks,
Mark Regan
From:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Mark Regan netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote:
My personal definition of legacy is any new code or system that finally
goes into production. By way of using the word bequeathed, if would be
something from the build team, bequeathed to the run team to operate and
More improvements that don't improve...
The new tools are neither as fast, reliable, or available as their
predecessors!
Are you listening IBM?
snip
I took the opportunity to have a longer look at the z/OS KC today.
Allowing for the fact it is a (early) beta, I found the personal
Is that like production testing, if it works it's production if if fails it's a
test
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:49 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Mark
Hi
How would you deinstall (if it is the proper expression) software, for
example
BDT (Bulk Data Transfer) ?
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T: +43(2236) 27551
At bit OT, but I liked a saying I saw on Slashdot: The code is not
debugged until the last user has died.
John:
Well that half true.
Maybe a better way of saying it is to say when all users have died
the code is fully debugged.
d
To remove the SMP/E elements :
(o) Compose a dummy FMID that has a DELETE statement for the FMID(s) of the
products that you wish to remove - for example :
++FUNCTION(DELDUM1) .
++VER(Z038) DELETE(fmid) .
(o) APPLY and ACCEPT the dummy FMID
Obviously remember to use CHECK for
In the past I've written a function sysmod that deletes the FMID(s) I want to
delete (DELETE operand on ++VER). I have not had to do this for a long, so
there may be a newer/better way.
Bill Skeldum
Systems Programmer
303-231-2561
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If you want to completely remove all traces, then use this. change yourfmid
to the FMID(s) you want to remove:
//SMPPTFIN DD *
++ FUNCTION(DELFUNC) REWORK(2013150).
++ VER(Z038) DELETE(YOURFMID) .
/*
//SMPCNTL DD *
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:13:12 +, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
wrote:
Are you listening IBM?
Unless someone can make a compelling business case that IBM improving the
documentation will increase IBM's revenue (EPS) in some major way, then it's
going to continue to get it's funding
Rob,Jim
Thank You for your responses.
I agree with both of You.
I wrestling with the statement in Extended Addressability.
It specifically identifies entry tables PCss *AND* not PCcp.
I interpret that as entry tables describing PCcp routines are allowed in a
seperate step.
Sorry for being so
The LXRES and ETCRE services build control blocks in the PCAUTH private area.
All of the definitions you specify in your ETDEF statements get translated into
ETE control blocks inside PCAUTH LSQA .
The LXAT is the table of linkage index allocations (see Data Areas manual) and
is in PCAUTH
USE CAUTION when uninstalling software with dummy function deletes.
Make certain that there are no intersections that would cause problems
after the product or products are removed. For example, if a product's
MCS includes one or more VERSION statements, it can replace some
(potentially all)
W dniu 2013-12-17 16:46, John Eells pisze:
USE CAUTION when uninstalling software with dummy function deletes.
Make certain that there are no intersections that would cause problems
after the product or products are removed. For example, if a
product's MCS includes one or more VERSION
On 2013-12-17, at 07:13, Staller, Allan wrote:
Are you listening IBM?
Sure they are:
The corporate direction to Information Centers and, soon,
Knowledge Centers (KC) -- especially the latter -- is supposed
to help re-federate information.
Is re-federate a word?
-- gil
On 2013-12-17 00:54, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
But according to non z/Os geeks 'legacy' is: obsolete, outdated, antique, etc.
or something like that ...
In Toronto, when IBM disposed of their country club, the housing
development that replaced it was called Legacy.
--
Regards, Gord
On 12/17/2013 6:30 AM, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
How would you deinstall (if it is the proper expression) software,
for example
BDT (Bulk Data Transfer) ?
Like all optional, priced-features of z/OS, BDT never needs to be
uninstalled. It should simply be disabled through IFAPRDxx. For
're-federate' with the hyphen is a a very dubious word; without the
hyphen and interpreteted as a verb it presumably means to reconstitute
a quondam federation that is/was in dissolution.
In an IBM SCD it is a feel-good noise word that does not denote
anything specific and makes no specific
Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 12/17/2013 6:30 AM, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
How would you deinstall (if it is the proper expression) software,
for example
BDT (Bulk Data Transfer) ?
Like all optional, priced-features of z/OS, BDT never needs to be
uninstalled. It should simply be disabled through
Not IBM approved, but method we did.
1. Notify users.
2. RACF datasets so no access, read by backup group.
3. Rename datasets (add .OLD).
4. Delete datasets and source of software.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:58 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
W dniu 2013-12-17 16:46, John Eells
Just gimme the book. PDF please.
Doug
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From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 12/17/2013 11:04:46 AM
Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 DVD Collection - Software Products
The corporate direction to Information Centers and, soon,
I imagine that there is a RESMGR routine that is established for the
calling task/ASID when LXRES is invoked so that LXAT cleanup actions
can be performed when the LXRES-issuing TCB terminates and has not
cleaned up properly using LXFRE etc.
LXRES dates back to MVS/370 SP1.2. RESMGR did
Dana:
Not sure I agree with you 100 percent.
I think that a long time ago that IBM sat up and listened at SHARE
was just around the time of OCO.
IBM sent a strong contingent to SHARE about documentation and they
seemed to listen! For a while documentation got a lot better (except
for OE
On 17 December 2013 00:54, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
But according to non z/Os geeks 'legacy' is: obsolete, outdated, antique,
etc. or something like that ...
That legacy green screen thing must be replaced by our ultramodern,
ultrafast, userfriendly,
In article 2861860432296333.wa.wernerzmindsltd@listserv.ua.edu you wrote:
Thanks,
Tony, the SMF option I tried, unfortunately the records for open/close of USS
files are not written in all cases.
Don, the service stubs are loaded at USS startup and reside always at the
same offset
Thanks,
Tony, the SMF option I tried, unfortunately the records for open/close of USS
files are not written in all cases.
Don, the service stubs are loaded at USS startup and reside always at the same
offset like published in the document you pointed out. I.E. BPX1OPN - 156
Thats the way
I've always liked The stuff that works :)
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On Behalf Of Roger W. Suhr
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Geek Is Now A Praiseword, Not An Insult
On 17 December 2013 14:38, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com wrote:
I don't see why someone couldn't install their own table in place
of the pointed to by the CVT. See
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.bpxb100%2Fbpx2cr_Example.htm
Sure - I agree that
In article CAArMM9RSgenhOi792=dhsbsd1ztdfrypygoodzdoawbeu2f...@mail.gmail.com
you wrote:
On 17 December 2013 13:36, Werner Zieleznik wer...@zmindsltd.com wrote:
Does somebody know how to intercept z/OS USS calls?
I managed to intercept several SVC's for audit reasons. Now I would like to
Modifying the CVT to perform intercepts is definitely very easy but also
extremely risky. Modifying the CVT affects the entire system. All it takes
is the mishandling of a single caller, particularly one critical to an
address space and all hell breaks loose. I tried it once. I modified the PC
Elardus,
Sounds like a classic sales pitch to me...
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Mark Regan netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
My personal definition of legacy is any new code or system that finally goes
On 17 December 2013 13:36, Werner Zieleznik wer...@zmindsltd.com wrote:
Does somebody know how to intercept z/OS USS calls?
I managed to intercept several SVC's for audit reasons. Now I would like to
to do the same for USS calls.
The kernel calls are PCs. IBM has rejected (or required a
Never manually delete a product without going thru SMP/E. I'm not familiar with
BDT so lets say you wanted to delete C/C++. They are dependant upon LE. The
next time an LE PTF has a COREQ for a C/C++ PTF, you will be screwed. Using
SMP/E function delete is the only recommended method to delete
Why would you want to delete a product that comes as part of the base; for
example, BDT and is either ENABLE or DISABLED via IFAPRDxx?
Thanks,
Craig
From: Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date: 12/17/2013 15:38
Subject:Re: Deinstall
Hi,
Does somebody know how to intercept z/OS USS calls?
I managed to intercept several SVC's for audit reasons. Now I would like to to
do the same for USS calls.
Thanks
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On page:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/index.html
The LOOKAT link:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/lookat
Gives me 404 Not Found. There happens to be a Report this problem
button on the error page. I clicked on it. Let's all do that.
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W dniu 2013-12-17 22:43, craig.p...@fotlinc.com pisze:
Why would you want to delete a product that comes as part of the base; for
example, BDT and is either ENABLE or DISABLED via IFAPRDxx?
Good point. There is working and IBM-blessed method for z/OS *FEATURES*,
like RACF, dss, rmm, C/C++ or
Ed,
Unfortunately, it's like being a large sales IBM customer and all of a sudden
you decide to switch mainframe vendor what happens ? Money talks in my
experience so far. It's a pity too.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Dec 17,
On 12/17/2013 1:38 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
Never manually delete a product without going thru SMP/E. I'm not familiar with
BDT so lets say you wanted to delete C/C++.
To uninstall C/C++ under z/OS you would change the following in IFAPRDxx:
PRODUCT OWNER('IBM CORP')
NAME(Z/OS)
Scott:
Well that is pretty major. However IBM had farmed their sales out to
a less than good set of people. If you buy from them you are small
meat .
They chew you out and spit through the teeth. (BTDTGTTS and its rotten)
Face it you have the problem no matter what so you use SHARE to the
Gil,
This link worked for me just now
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/
Lizette
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:58 PM
To:
On 17 December 2013 20:23, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
This link worked for me just now
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/
Works for me too, but it's not the link on the main z/OS Internet
LIbrary page. IBM surely outdoes all other big companies in the
On 18/12/2013 10:33 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
On 17 December 2013 20:23, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
This link worked for me just now
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/
Works for me too, but it's not the link on the main z/OS Internet
LIbrary page. IBM
There at least one prior thread on USS files and SMF exits. Need
IEFU83/84/85 to make sure you have captured file close.
Unless you know of a situation for USS file close that is not covered by
the IEFu83/84/85?
Rob Schramm
p.s. and for those picking nits.. USS in this case is unix system
It's days from Friday, but I can't resist. The NSA can intercept calls to
US(S) or anywhere else. You don't even have to ask.
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
On 12/17/2013 9:03 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:
It's days from Friday, but I can't resist. The NSA can intercept calls to
US(S) or anywhere else. You don't even have to ask.
OK, also off topic (and off color?): driving to an audition today
saw a bumper sticker that really overloads the USS
Would the following functionality help?
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.icha800%2Fomvsaud.htm
Timothy Sipples
GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based
If you need to get to the correct page in the interim, here is the link:
http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/
Thanks, Paul.
Timothy Sipples
GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based
For years IBM has recommended that when bookmarking there sites,
Modify the HTTP string from WWW??. to WWW.
The ?? part as in WWW-03 or WWW2 is used interally to route to various
servers.
WWW.IBM* is an alais to the actual site that gets updated as pages move
between servers.
The
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