It might survive as .txt attachment. Everything else gets sliced and diced.
In a message dated 1/11/2014 4:15:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
poit...@pobox.com writes:
Yeah, I didn't think that would work. :) If you're reading this
as I am, all the (well most of) text below ended up as
Some searches on the internet for IBM S106 0F
brings up
These messages and the ABENDS106-0F indicate that a link list ( LNKLST )
library has gone into additional extents. This could occur if SMP/E
maintenance was being applied to the library
So, if your LINKLST library
Also. The *LINKLST* does not always mean SYS1.LINKLIB.
It means that in the Linklst concatenation you may have a datasets in
secondary extents. You need to see what library was being worked on at the
time of the failure.
In the output of your SMP/E job it will tell you what PTF it was working
In ed403499-6ec5-4b86-954e-6a81b175d...@comcast.net, on 01/08/2014
at 08:38 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
That is why I am surprised that Darren didn't get the message
There is a difference between didn't get and didn't notice.
but then that leaves the issue up in the air
Not
I didn't read the question but the answer is ... g
Output is the response to a z/OS console display command. Did Unicode support
for WTO make into z/OS V2R1?
Charles
Composed on a mobile: please excuse my brevity
Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:
There's a tab symbol glyph at Unicode
The IBM HLASM supports a builtin function called BYTE that permits an
arbitrary character to be defined and introduced into assembled text.
It is 'generic' so that, for example
|nul setc BYTE(0) --nul character, x'00'
|nul setc BYTE(x'00') --nul character
are
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:48:45 -0500, Ed Finnell wrote:
It might survive as .txt attachment. Everything else gets sliced and diced.
Depends on the MUA. The text I submitted earlier by email:
== Polyglot ==
A common Russian phrase is ОЧЕНЬ ХОРОШО.
The Greek might be ΠΟΛΥ ΚΑΛΑ.
...
Yes, I checked Job log and errors starting from GIM44002S message and the
reason is GIMDRS module present in SYS1.MIGLIB, which is part of LNKLST
concatenation.
GIM44002S ** SYSTEM ABEND 106 OCCURRED WITH A REASON CODE OF '000F'X AFT
SMP/E CALLED THE GIMDRS UTILITY TO PROCESS THE
On 2014-01-12, at 07:06, John Gilmore wrote:
... [HLASM advocacy redacted.]
I also prefer to use 'µ', 'µµ', 'µµµ', or 'µµ...µ', one or more
instances of the Greek minuscule, to display the positions of such
characters. It is widely available (for use in such constructs as
µsec) but even
On the several keyboards I have at hand tab is modal, right or left
depending upon the current shift-key setting. The modal marking
appears to be
| tab|
| —— |
| —— |
in which the 'arrowheads' are solid, not open. I should think that
'|' would be adequately perspicuous. The
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:29:22 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
... [Tabs'] effects depend upon local tab settings, and many
implementations disambiguate them by replacing them with blanks of
currently equivalent effect in saved/stored files.
Thereby sacrificing some small economy of storage. There
Your SYS1.MIGLIB has secondary extents. If a dataset will be in the LINKLST
- it is HIGHLY recommend to not have secondary extents. PRIMARY space
allocation only - secondary space allocation of 0 (zero).
You can try
F LLA,REFRESH
If that does not work
IPL
I would like to understand how
Yes, I already did LLA refresh.
But I also accept this mistake that, I should have IPLed from another
volume and then apply maintenance on the RES volume where DDDEF is pointing
to.. But to correct this mistake now, I can try IPLing system from another
RES volume and then try running this apply
I cannot tell you what would be the best process for your shop. I do not
know your systems.
However, if it is reasonable to use a different SYSRES to IPL from at this
point, I would investigate that.
1) were the two sysres volumes at the same level of maintenance/
2) If the other sysres is at a
Hello,
Yes, Both RES volume are on same Maintenance level. Yes, its
production system but I can request customer to provide downtime window and
IPL system from another RES volume and then try applying PTF again.
I think this will be safest way to do now. I will also check my all LNKLST
IMO, the idea to put tab characters into files is wrong from the beginning.
But of course it comes from the paper tape paradigma, where a file is
historically
a paper tape feeding a teletype machine.
With normal local typewriters, a tab is nothing other than a command
to the
typewriter to
In
1e667f6bf4a6234ab758381402ef464d133cd...@loumbxwpg12s01.rsc.humad.com,
on 01/08/2014
at 11:01 PM, Steve Thompson sthompso...@humana.com said:
I seem to recall something about Named LNKLST.
Try 3.7 Changing the LNKLST Concatenation in z/OS MVS Programming:
Authorized Assembler Services
In 4384793391606637.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/09/2014
at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Is this cloning, sometimes called deployment to a live system?
It seems there's a flaw in the process if the live system is not
updated by a process identical to
In 1389314155.47172.yahoomail...@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
01/09/2014
at 04:35 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
PC ( data using a foreign language Unicode page
What are you trying to say? If the PC is using Unicode then it will
transimit data as UTF-7 or UTF-8, which covers
In 022c01cf0da5$a7b25180$f716f480$@mcn.org, on 01/09/2014
at 05:45 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
There are several flavors of Unicode, but they relate to how the
code points are stored in a file or transmitted, not to the
character set.
Actually, those are transforms rather than
In 0e75a300-f7c5-46a7-a1d3-7189d2a58...@yahoo.com, on 01/09/2014
at 08:39 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
We send a data message from a pc, we encrypt it with AES128 , the
message is received at the host (z/OS) decrypted then converted from
ascii to ebcdic
If it really was ASCII
In 20140110034419.c71008f...@panix3.panix.com, on 01/09/2014
at 10:44 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:
As of z/OS 2.1, ISPF supports UTF-8, so a binary transfer will still
show an A if it was an A on the PC.
Only if the PC was using UTF-8 or translates to Unicode with UTF-8 as
part of
In
CAArMM9QOFq1jtzwmj=LWHTKkadMzx=aaqppbbqjnk+c8kuz...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/09/2014
at 09:00 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
There is no general way to convert UNICODE into EBCDIC,
There are EBCDIC transforms for Unicode. I'm not sure whether that
qulifies as EBCDIC.
--
In
of065337e4.0e9ce2ec-on48257c5c.0027bfa8-48257c5c.00297...@sg.ibm.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 03:30 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com said:
Somehow I'm reminded of the save two characters impulse which then
caused a lot of angst in preparing for Y2K.
The situations are not comparable. With
In bay177-w36d24c9a61f3b6464b4992f2...@phx.gbl, on 01/10/2014
at 09:36 AM, Harry Wahl harry_w...@hotmail.com said:
You could use the BOM UTF characters
There are none. U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE is a Unicode
character.
usually inserted transparently at the beginning of a UTF file.
In 9931357931112854.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/10/2014
at 08:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Notepad? What's that? Perhaps some obsolete predecessor of
Wordpad?
No, it's a superior version of wordpad. HTH.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In
CAE1XxDHn0wgwJpm+cNLSdzv=ccvoz1u5o6em7xwxnqs4u0z...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 09:50 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
As soon, however, as you need to support
o three or more different roman-alphabet natural languages, or
o a roman-alphabet language and a non-alphabetic
In
CAE1XxDHBJRiuFH7N-031xdJ3DUnO6QyG-=otde8fvnc-uyv...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 11:02 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
The problem is not one of representability but of subset choice.
There is no problem of subset choice, because use of UTF-8 does not
imply a proper subset
In 9E263B5EE73E4E06BF755F95CEA935E8@barryf93b83d71, on 01/10/2014
at 10:22 AM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com said:
I don't know anything about the recruiting firm or their customer.
I don't know about the customer, but SPCI has been around for decades.
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In
cae1xxdgwscr+ffp13_rperg4jmkferdgp4f6sxtz7v48o4g...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 01:28 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Briefly, effective rules for encoding any 'character' recognized as a
Unicode one as a 'longer' UTF-8 one do not in general exist.
What are you drinking? RFC
In 03f701cf0e3c$d1a371d0$74ea5570$@mcn.org, on 01/10/2014
at 11:47 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
MS Word would say FOO^tBAR.
Have you reported the bug? That should be FOO^9BAR.
Parm2=FOOtabBAR
I'd go with that.
Parm2=FOO^tBAR
That would be flat wrong.
--
Shmuel
In 20140110195944.3d5f333...@panix2.panix.com, on 01/10/2014
at 02:59 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:
As far as 3270 goes, I think it's just going to us the CODEPAGE and
CHARSET you start ISPF with. I think it's going to be limited to the
set of EBCDIC code pages. As this is the first
In
ofe902f58f.ddd660b4-on88257c5c.006d8c43-88257c5c.006e4...@sce.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 12:04 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
An intriguing question in view of the absence of tabs in the
conventional EBCDIC character set.
What absence? HT is and always has been '05'X. VT is
In 043101cf0e4c$7944d050$6bce70f0$@mcn.org, on 01/10/2014
at 01:39 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Both my aging Yellow Card
Yello? That's the new card. HT should be on the older green card as
well. And, in fact, it is: thank you, bitsavers.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In 044601cf0e4d$b4be3a30$1e3aae90$@mcn.org, on 01/10/2014
at 01:48 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
It occurs to me that what may be meant is the absence of
control-character-based formatting in mainframe usage. On UNIX and
Windows systems, fields are often delimited by tabs
Making the
Two short additions:
first: Regards in the 4th paragraph is a sort of typo,
should read Regarding
second: from the moment on when we terminated to exchange
files by paper tape, we should have stopped to put tabs into files
from that same moment on - if not before. My opinion ...
Kind regards
you have the problem to decide what tab
positions this file is meant to have, and you always have to guess, and it's
wrong most
of the time, and the result looks awful
Your solution would also look awful with proportional text.
-
Ted MacNEIL
eamacn...@yahoo.ca
Twitter: @TedMacNEIL
Am 12.01.2014 19:10, schrieb Ted MacNEIL:
you have the problem to decide what tab
positions this file is meant to have,
and you always have to guess, and it's wrong most
of the time, and the result looks awful
Your solution would also look awful with proportional text.
My focus is on source
Sir,
Thank you for your direction.
Kind Regards.
Jim Thomas
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Re : Uploading to z/OS
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:59:25 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
second: from the moment on when we terminated to exchange
files by paper tape, we should have stopped to put tabs into files
from that same moment on - if not before. My opinion ...
Why? Where else would you keep them?
Regards tabs
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:37:20 -0600, Jim Thomas wrote:
Thank you for your direction.
You're welcome. Glad to put aside my pedant's hat and help, however briely.
But did it help? It's a complicated topic with many correct answers
competing to be the best in any particular environment. That
Is it linked AC(1)? Is it in a library that is APF authorized?
:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of MichealButz
:: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:11 PM
:: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:: Subject: Authorized
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:45:23 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Notepad? What's that? Perhaps some obsolete predecessor of
Wordpad?
No, it's a superior version of wordpad. HTH.
Doesn't understand UNIX line breaks. For me that's a deal breaker.
-- gil
Yes to all should work ?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:19 PM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com
wrote:
Is it linked AC(1)? Is it in a library that is APF authorized?
:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
On Linux gedit works fine, on Windows I use Notepad++ which handles Unix
eols and UTF-8
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:45:23 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Tabs are useful for formatting input text. I use tab settings of 10,
16. 35, and 72 for HLASM source formatting; but I will not use a text
editor that does not---optionally for those who have other
preferences---replace tabs with blanks during save/storage operations.
Bernd and I are thus in
BTW, Notepad++ is not only free/open source, but it also has the goal of
preventing Global Warming :-)
http://notepad-plus-plus.org/
.. while at the same time likes to show off:
http://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/column-mode-editing.html
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
I don't generally respond to Shmuel's animadversions. This time,
however, he has crossed the line of civilized behavior.
His experience with Unicode appears to be limited to attentive reading
of its defining documents. Its implementations are, unsurprisingly,
imperfect. In particular the
Is this an ISPF dialog or is it just a command processor invoked while in
ISPF?
Does it work as expected from READY?
Dan
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Butz
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:36 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Re: Authorized ISPF command Failure
Yes
The latter TSO Command from ISR@PRIM I believe is the
Panel name.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:11 PM, DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Is this an ISPF dialog or is it just a command processor invoked while in
ISPF?
Does it work as expected from READY?
Dan
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:48:49 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:
On Linux gedit works fine, on Windows I use Notepad++ which handles Unix
eols and UTF-8
You mean I don't have to wait for Windows 14!? Thanks!
Does it do UNIX eols on in put *and* output? Wordpad only does the
former.
Thanks again,
gil
After you updated IKJTSO00, did you refresh TSO with the PARMLIB command?
Any chance that adding the command processor caused the library to grow into
a new extent?
:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of Micheal Butz
Some words about editors, tabs, eolchar, eofchar.
The editor which I like most does the following:
- read files that have CRLF eols or LF eols
- output files with CRLF or LF, controlled by an editor setting
- output an EOF char, if desired (0x1a); most of the time, I don't want it
- allow
LINKLST datasets that occupy secondary extents at IPL time do not suffer
from this problem. It only arises if the dataset grows into a NEW extent
after the IPL. The problem arises then because the LINKLST DEB was built
when the LINKLST was defined and any attempt by LLA to access the new extent
At 16:19 -0800 on 01/12/2014, retired mainframer wrote about Re: z/OS
1.13 PTF apply Issue:
LINKLST datasets that occupy secondary extents at IPL time do not suffer
from this problem. It only arises if the dataset grows into a NEW extent
after the IPL. The problem arises then because the
Do you get 3270 extended attributes to play with -- notably reverse video
-- when WTOing? If so, that'd be darn useful.
Timothy Sipples
GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore)
E-Mail:
On 1/11/2014 11:11 PM, MichealButz wrote:
Authorized command 'SPSWT'. Return code = 20. Reason code = 56.
ISPD250 Invocation error - System error encountered invoking authorized
command 'SPSWT'.
Does it work when invoked from READY?
--
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
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