Re: XMITMGR

2014-01-25 Thread Brian Westerman
If you send me your Email address, I'll send you the modules and the directions for installing the old XMITMGR under Windows 8 and 8.1 Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread John Gilmore
Dijkstra's fulminations against PL/I are well known. They are also without merit. An even more general formulation is possible. Theoretical computer science, which elucidates algorithms, is often enormously valuable. Equally, like other kinds of mathematics, it can be obvious and boring; but it

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread John Gilmore
On 1/25/14, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Dijkstra's fulminations against PL/I are well known. They are also without merit. An even more general formulation is possible. Theoretical computer science, which elucidates algorithms, is often enormously valuable. Equally, like other

z/OS 2.1 related Problems

2014-01-25 Thread mf db
Hello All, We are planning to upgrade our z/OS 1.13 to z/OS 2.1 in next few weeks. I am just interested to know from z/OS 2.1 users about the experience and the problems after the upgrade. Could someone willing to share your experience ? Peter

Re: Byte-code COBOL [was:RE: Resistance to Java.]

2014-01-25 Thread Don Higgins
All For an example of open source byte COBOL check out the zcobol Portable Mainframe COBOL compiler and runtime which comes with the z390 Portable Mainframe Assembler and Emulator which currently runs on Windows, Linux, and Apple OSX host systems with J2SE 6.0+ runtime installed. An assembler

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
dcrayf...@gmail.com (David Crayford) writes: That's because there are no viable alternatives. It probably wouldn't be the case if there was a zIIP enabled Ruby on Rails, Python Django or node.js framework available. trivia when java came out ... the director of the business group was somebody

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:40:16 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 25/01/2014 3:52 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: Most mainframe modernization efforts are rooted in Java. That's because there are no viable alternatives. It probably wouldn't be the case if there was a zIIP enabled Ruby on Rails, Python Django or

Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-25 Thread Peter Relson
Further clarification: Today: If IEASYMxx tries to create a symbol with its value being too long, it is rejected. Tomorrow: That same definition would be rejected similarly. There would be a way to indicate I am creating this symbol and I explicitly want you to let me provide a longer value

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/24/2014 9:40 PM, David Crayford wrote: I can speak from personal experience that our emerging Java-based mainframe offerings have been well received by our customer base. http://phoenixsoftware.com/ejes/ejes_future.htm Nice to see a product use a browser UI and not a dreaded Eclipse

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Post
On 1/25/2014 at 01:09 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/01/2014 1:57 PM, Mark Post wrote: -snip- Given who I work for, I would truly like to believe that, but I have grave doubts about such statements unless the sources are cited, etc. I know for a fact that Java on

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/24/2014 9:40 PM, David Crayford wrote: I heard that a resource intensive Java program was run on both a z/OS zIIP and zLinux IFL. zLinux was x10 faster. The conclusion was that the z/OS software stack was the bottle neck. I'm highly skeptical of this claim. On our zBC12 we run 64-bit

Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofa6db1740.0ef7c5b4-on85257c6a.004925c8-85257c6a.0049b...@us.ibm.com, on 01/24/2014 at 08:25 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: I don't disagree with your preference, but you are talking about changing thousands or millions of lines of code, and likely creating significant

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread David Crayford
On 26/01/2014 1:38 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 1/24/2014 9:40 PM, David Crayford wrote: I can speak from personal experience that our emerging Java-based mainframe offerings have been well received by our customer base. http://phoenixsoftware.com/ejes/ejes_future.htm Nice to see a product use

FIND macro Failed with TCBJLB

2014-01-25 Thread MichealButz
Hi, Can I use the DCB represented by TCBJLB with the FIND macro as I am getting a rc 4 not found , and I know the member is there -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread David Crayford
On 25/01/2014 11:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:40:16 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 25/01/2014 3:52 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: Most mainframe modernization efforts are rooted in Java. That's because there are no viable alternatives. It probably wouldn't be the case if there

Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:12:55 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: Further clarification: Today: If IEASYMxx tries to create a symbol with its value being too long, it is rejected. Tomorrow: That same definition would be rejected similarly. There would be a way to indicate I am creating this symbol and I

Re: FIND macro Failed with TCBJLB

2014-01-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 1/25/2014 10:09 PM, MichealButz wrote: Can I use the DCB represented by TCBJLB with the FIND macro as I am getting a rc 4 not found , and I know the member is there 1) Is TCBJLB zero? 2) What happens when you use BLDL instead? 3) Show your work - do you have the correct member name and

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/25/2014 6:43 PM, David Crayford wrote: On 26/01/2014 1:38 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: We love Eclipse! So do many of our customers and some have already requested a full-featured Eclipse plug-in for (E)JES. We hope to be able to provide them with that during phase II of the roll-out. We want