Re: SHOWzOS and PTFs UA9074n

2015-01-21 Thread Roland Schiradin
Hi, WTF I miss the LIKE button here Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-21 Thread Jim Mulder
For those interested: I found an entry in LOGREC that matched in time and STC name (SMSVSAM). I've opened a PMR since I consider an error if a system component tries to document a problem via ABEND dump instead of an SVC dump. SMSVSAM does not initiate an ABEND dump. RTM2 does that when

Re: HELP - Can I IPL zVM 5.4 from a Remote HMC without the Integrated 3270 Console

2015-01-21 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-01-21 o 14:23, Mike Myers pisze: Hi all: This is really a multi-part question. First, it seems that there is some problem accessing the HMC's Integrated 3270 Console in a browser. The rumor is that the issue is related to Java. I have been successful with this in the past, but it

Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit.

2015-01-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 54b1.1010...@t-online.de, on 01/21/2015 at 01:12 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said: It was C, not PL/1 ... but from that experience I see absolutely no reason why such things should not happen with PL/1, SIZE(); my recollection is that C has an equivalent. It sounds

Re: Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-21 Thread Abe Kornelis
Gary, In one of my first programs, I inadvertently defined a Vcon double. It gave me exactly the result you describe. It led me to conclude that the loader simply adds the offset to the base value. If you define (or load) twice, the addition is performed twice as well... Looks like you will

Any interest? port of LLVM to z/OS?

2015-01-21 Thread John McKown
This is just a question, not a commitment from me. I am curious if anyone is interested in LLVM in z/OS. LLVM is quote from=http://llvm.org/; LLVM Overview The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and toolchain technologies. Despite its name, LLVM has little to do with

Re: Any interest? port of LLVM to z/OS?

2015-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:40:22 -0600, John McKown wrote: The most difficult part has already been done because there is a LLVM variant for Linux on z. The porting would be to make this variant compile and run using IBM's XLC instead of GCC. The difficulty metric as I perceive it, graphically:

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
OK, that sounds good, just thought I'd double check that value -Original Message- From: Willie Bunter [mailto:001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER Thanks for

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:09:38 +, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: I think there are not special considerations with model 27 or model 54.Those dasd are just 3390-9 devices with a bigger size. Correct. You aren't limited to Mod 27s or Mod 54s. As an example one can define a

Re: HELP - Can I IPL zVM 5.4 from a Remote HMC without the Integrated 3270 Console

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Myers
In Windows Vista, I see only Java 7 Update 45. Mike On 01/21/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: In Windows, click on Start, Control Panel, Add programs or Programs and Features, what Java versions are installed? On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com wrote:

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Willie Bunter
Thanks Anthony. For my understanding you say to use the value of 77 for RECORDSIZE(77 4601)) Is the value from the KEYS parm (77 0) which is also applied to the RECORDSIZE of (77 4601)) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Any interest? port of LLVM to z/OS?

2015-01-21 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:40:22 -0600, John McKown wrote: The most difficult part has already been done because there is a LLVM variant for Linux on z. The porting would be to make this

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Schwab
IBM DS* imposed this. It divides the space into Mod 1 chunks, then each volume uses one or more chunks for its space, and you can add a Mod 1 chunk to a volume. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:11:13

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Have a look at sys1.help(define) ITschak בתאריך 21 בינו 2015 15:05, ‏willie bunter 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu כתב: Good Day To All, I have to build a VSAM cluster from scratch but I am having a problem trying to code the right parms. For example in a LISTCAT I find the

Re: HELP - Can I IPL zVM 5.4 from a Remote HMC without the Integrated 3270 Console

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Schwab
In Windows, click on Start, Control Panel, Add programs or Programs and Features, what Java versions are installed? On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com wrote: Elardus: Thanks for the reply. Ed elaborated on your fixing firefox information and I got that done,

Re: Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-21 Thread Sam Siegel
Gary - I have an idea of what is occurring, but some additional info is needed. 1) Does this only happen on second and subsequent load? 2) What attributes (rent, reus, etc.) are present on the load module? 3) is this under CICS? Or a proprietary multitasking region? 4) Is code all ASM? Or is

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:11:13 +, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: IIRC, all volumes must be a multiple of cyls, a 3390 model 1. Really? I didn't think there was such a restriction. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Willie Bunter
Thanks Itshack for the tip. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Willie Bunter
Thanks Anthony for your help. A thank you to Elardus as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Willie Bunter
Thanks for correcting me. As for the value on the LISTCAT for RKP it is 0. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
No, the listcat indicated avglrecl is 77, recordsize parameter asks for avglrecl in first subparameter field. What value does your listcat say for RKP? -Original Message- From: Willie Bunter [mailto:001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:31

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi: The average record size is probably one of the nonsense parameters in the CLUSTER definition. It is my understanding that it is used primarily when you define the space requirements in RECORDS versus Cylinders and Tracks. Do you really know the average record size? I am not completely

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-01-21 o 17:30, Tom Marchant pisze: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:11:13 +, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: IIRC, all volumes must be a multiple of cyls, a 3390 model 1. Really? I didn't think there was such a restriction. There is such restriction, but not on z/OS side. It is

Re: Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-21 Thread Greg Dyck
From what we can see the address that ends up in the VCON is the displacement from the beginning of the module (the value presumably placed their by the binder) plus twice the load point. Has anyone seen this happen before? Is there an undocumented requirement to single thread multiple LOADs

AW: Re: AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Hunkeler
For those interested: I found an entry in LOGREC that matched in time and STC name (SMSVSAM). I've opened a PMR since I consider an error if a system component tries to document a problem via ABEND dump instead of an SVC dump. SMSVSAM does not initiate an ABEND dump. RTM2 does that when

Re: Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-01-21 15:12, Greg Dyck wrote: Normal (non-directed) LOAD processing serializes fetch processing for a module and only performs relocation of ACONs/VCONs once when the module is fetched. The only way I could see what you describe happen is if there were two RLD entries for the

Re: Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-21 Thread John McKown
No. CICS has another TCB which uses z/OS directed LOAD to fetch load modules program objects. On Jan 21, 2015 5:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On 2015-01-21 15:12, Greg Dyck wrote: Normal (non-directed) LOAD processing serializes fetch

Re: z13 new(?) characteristics from RedBook

2015-01-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 54be8afc026d0017f...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/20/2015 at 03:06 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said: You have to understand, CP is the nucleus of z/VM. I've understood for decades what CP was, TYVM. There are pieces of it that do normal operating system things, Just as there are

Re: Reports in Readable format

2015-01-21 Thread zos reader
Yes Lizette, you're Right. i cant able to get the report using Repro. I have Admin authority for VDR(infopac) i will search for the utility. Please let me know if you are aware of the utility process Thanks, Bala On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
You can use the LIKE Function for the define vsam. LIKE-Specifies that the properties of an existing cataloged data set should be used to allocate a new data set. For a list of the properties that can be copied, see z/OS MVS JCL Reference. The definition in the JCL Manual applies to the IDCAMS

Re: What am I missing about C++ new[] failure?

2015-01-21 Thread David Crayford
I got burned by the same problem years ago. z/OS C++ does not throw bad_alloc() by default for compatibility reasons (brain damaged). To turn it on specify the compiler option LANGLVL(NEWEXCP). On 22/01/2015 9:29 AM, Charles Mills wrote: I have a C++ program in which I am trying to allocate an

What am I missing about C++ new[] failure?

2015-01-21 Thread Charles Mills
I have a C++ program in which I am trying to allocate an unreasonably-large character array with new[]. I know it's unreasonably large - I'm a developer testing something. It's 6.3MB -- not ridiculous, but in excess of the memory available (apparently). It appears to me that new is simply

Re: What am I missing about C++ new[] failure?

2015-01-21 Thread Charles Mills
Hmmm. After hitting Send, I looked up set_new_handler() in the library reference where it says If you have not registered a new-handler function, the default behavior is for the new operator to return NULL. Is that in conflict with the Language Reference as quoted below, or am I reading it wrong?

Re: What am I missing about C++ new[] failure?

2015-01-21 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. Yeah, that's it. Put in NEWEXCP and now I get my std::exception routine called with bad allocation. Geez, IBM -- the Language Reference and the Library Reference are in conflict with each other and both incomplete. Both should reference LANGLVL(NEWEXCP). Also #pragma operator_new which

Re: Reports in Readable format

2015-01-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Bala The IDCAMS PRINT function does not provide the actual report but rather the contents of the VDR Vsam dataset. The data is all hex/bin/char with no structure. The only way I know to print reports is with the report utilities provided with VDR. Do you have access to your VDR Admin? Or

DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Buckton, T. (Theo)
Hi, Please refer me to documents containing notes on implementing dasd 3390 model27 54 - considerations and configuring DFSMS. We are running z/OS 2.1 Regards Nedbank Limited Reg No 1951/09/06. The following link displays the names of the Nedbank Board of

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Buckton, T. (Theo) wrote: Please refer me to documents containing notes on implementing dasd 3390 model27 54 - considerations and configuring DFSMS. We are running z/OS 2.1 About z/OS v2.1, SMS, device management and emulation (with HCD and SMS) look and search in

Re: Reports in Readable format

2015-01-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Horein wrote: //STEP0010 EXEC ARCHPRNT Please post contents of Procedure ARCHPRNT. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All, I have to build a VSAM cluster from scratch but I am having a problem trying to code the right parms. For example in a LISTCAT I find the parms of KEYLEN AVGLERCL MAXLERCL CISIZE etc. I checked the doc : z/OSDFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs SC26 but these parms are

HELP - Can I IPL zVM 5.4 from a Remote HMC without the Integrated 3270 Console

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Myers
Hi all: This is really a multi-part question. First, it seems that there is some problem accessing the HMC's Integrated 3270 Console in a browser. The rumor is that the issue is related to Java. I have been successful with this in the past, but it seems that my workstation systems have

Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit.

2015-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:38:38 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: PL/1 today also allows simple pointer arithmetic, and even with a C-like syntax (if you want): DCL P PTR; P = ADDR (X); P += 5; /* now P contains the ADDR of X plus 5 */ but unlike C, pointers in PL/1 have no type, so in this

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Cengotita
Hi, I think there are not special considerations with model 27 or model 54. Those dasd are just 3390-9 devices with a bigger size. Regards, Gonzalo Cengotita 2015-01-21 12:23 GMT+01:00 Buckton, T. (Theo) the...@nedbank.co.za: Hi, Please refer me to documents containing notes on implementing

PL/1 vs. C (was: Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit)

2015-01-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
The assignment a += 5; in C is an expression, too (and may be assigned to other variables and used, whereever expressions are allowed in C). But it is no problem to take this kind of syntax over to PL/1, WITHOUT assigning a value to the assignment A += 5; (that is: without violating the

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Bob Shannon
I think there are not special considerations with model 27 or model 54.Those dasd are just 3390-9 devices with a bigger size. Correct. You aren't limited to Mod 27s or Mod 54s. As an example one can define a Mod-15. The mod is based on the size of the volume. Anything GT a Mod-9 and LT a

Re: DASD Model-27 54 implementation

2015-01-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Correct. When formatting your storage device, you can't format a full number of the same size. In fact, we formatted a large amount of model 54's(?) with 57 GB, a number of model 12 GB's for data that will never be able to fill a model 57 and formatted the remaining space with model 9's, 3'

Re: Reports in Readable format

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Horein
Print it to a dataset: //STEP0010 EXEC ARCHPRNT //ARCHPRNT.INRPT21 DD BACKUP DATASET ALLOCATION GOES HERE //ARCHPRNT.INCARD1 DD * ##PRINT 01 USERID REPORTNAME MMDDHHMMSS NN 02 N 0 03

Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit.

2015-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:01:28 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: ... No, the things I had in mind was the assignments including increment etc, the things like A += expression; etc ... works with other kinds of operators, too, of cours, not only addition. ... But beware if you expect similar behavior

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Willie Bunter
Anthony, Thanks for the hints. I was able to find a VSAM dsn (Prod) that I would like to mimic. This is what the LISTCAT says: KEYLEN ---77 AVGLRECL---77 BUFSPACE ---13824 CISIZE--- 4608 MAXLRECL--- 4096 Would this be correct if I apply your suggestion: KEYS (77 0) - SHAREOPTIONS

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Willie Bunter wrote: I have to build a VSAM cluster from scratch What type of VSAM dataset? For example in a LISTCAT I find the parms of KEYLEN AVGLERCL MAXLERCL CISIZE etc. I checked the doc : z/OSDFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs SC26 but these parms are not there. Check the

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Willie Bunter
Elardus, The VSAM dsn I am trying to build is a KSDS. The keywords I am having a problem with is AVGLRECL MAXLRECL RKP BUFSPACE PHYREC-SIZE I checked the doc again but it doesn't tell me what the LISTCAT shows. Thanks for your help.

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
Look at [RECORDSIZE(average maximum)] for AVGLRECL MAXLRECL and [KEYS(length offset| 64 0] for RKP and [BUFFERSPACE(size)] for BUFSPACE I believe PHYREC-SIZE is calculated by VSAM -Original Message- From: Willie Bunter

Re: HELP - Can I IPL zVM 5.4 from a Remote HMC without the Integrated 3270 Console

2015-01-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Myers wrote: ... but it seems that my workstation systems have probably changed java versions/levels in recent months, as now I am not able to get the Integrated 3270 console pop-up on either Ubuntu Linux (12.04) or Windows (Vista pro or 7). You should be able to setup your

Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit.

2015-01-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 21.01.2015 um 14:28 schrieb Paul Gilmartin: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:38:38 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: It was the decision of the PL/1 language designers to make the language more user friendly to the C community. You don't have to use such language elements, if you don't like it. I see it

C language constructs in PL/1 (was: Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit.)

2015-01-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Let me try to say it again in another way: the (sometimes considered destructive) power of the expressions a++ and ++a comes from the fact, that these expressions are EXPRESSIONs and can be used in other expressions or assignments as side effects, for example: x = a++; or *t++ = *s++; Now,

Re: HELP - Can I IPL zVM 5.4 from a Remote HMC without the Integrated 3270 Console

2015-01-21 Thread Mike Myers
Elardus: Thanks for the reply. Ed elaborated on your fixing firefox information and I got that done, but still no joy. I'm going to have to look at the history. I'm not sure how to identify the problem update nor how to take it out, but I will look. Thanks again. Mike On 01/21/2015 08:58

Re: QUESTION DEFINE CLUSTER

2015-01-21 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
Yes, except RECORDSIZE should be RECORDSIZE(77 4601)) - and there's no need to include the BUFSPACE parameter -Original Message- From: Willie Bunter [mailto:001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Hunkeler
For this specific case, wouldn't RACF logging of denied accesses have been a way to capture the data as to which job was denied access? Good point. I'll have a look. Unfortunately, the IEAABD.* profile had been defined with logging for successful and denied UPDATE access. Nothing was found in

Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Weinhold
We have a situation where it appears that a LOAD of a module may not be resolving a VCON correctly. The first requirement for this module in a region will cause us to issue a LOAD for the module. In a multitasking environment we know that our code could be running on two TCBs simultaneously,