Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)

2015-08-12 Thread Gary Weinhold
And if I were Emperor of the universe, I'd adjust the earth's orbit to make sure it competed a revolution in exactly 365 days. gary On 2015-08-12 00:00, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:19:38 -0500 From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Subject: Leap (was:

Link to IBM H/W History at today's SHARE

2015-08-12 Thread Ed Finnell
https://share.confex.com/share/125/webprogram/Session17217.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program)

2015-08-12 Thread Joel Ewing
On 08/11/2015 01:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:37:30 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote: Encyclopedia Britannica is complicit in the confusion to this day by incorrectly implying in their Leap Year entry that in addition to the divisible by 4, 100, 400 rules there either is or

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)

2015-08-12 Thread Charles Mills
Why not 360? Or 512? CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity Original message From: Gary Weinhold weinh...@dkl.com Date: 08/12/2015 10:26 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)

2015-08-12 Thread Chris Hoelscher
You say you want a (completed?) revolution? Oh yeah you know - we all want to change the world ('s orbit?) Chris hoelscher Technology Architect Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 choelsc...@humana.com Humana.com (502)

Re: How to determine how a dataset got deleted

2015-08-12 Thread Ed Finnell
Did it get updated for 2.1? In a message dated 8/12/2015 5:38:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stars...@mindspring.com writes: DAF is very good. Just feed it raw SMF and it will give you lots of details. it is found on www.cbttape.org.

Re: Some Trivia: Happy Birthday IBM PC - You're 34 Today!

2015-08-12 Thread Ed Finnell
This doesn't sound right. I was at the Interim Share in Phoenix in '81 in May and it was rolling out then. Several luminaries in attendance. When we landed it was 107 and got hotter every day! In a message dated 8/12/2015 11:48:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sfo...@sbcglobal.net writes:

Re: NOTE/POINT issue with spanned BSAM datasets

2015-08-12 Thread Sri h Kolusu
However, when I started looking at the data returned from NOTE, I am getting values of 1, 2, 3, etc. which doesn't quite jive with the documentation (I can't believe everything is on track 0). Mark, According to the documentation here For a striped data set OPEN always opens all volumes of a

PTFs also require iPLs in some cases was Re: Some Trivia: Happy Birthday IBM PC - You're 34 Today!

2015-08-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Aug 2015 11:13:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I recall a presentation by IBM Executives all those years back about the 'New Era of Computing' (or something corny like that). One presenter mentioned that there were other PCs around, but the IBM one had three things going for

Re: NOTE/POINT issue with spanned BSAM datasets

2015-08-12 Thread Jim Mulder
The overt issue I am having is a S0C1 after doing a POINT macro when the data is on the second volume of a multi-volume (BSAM) dataset. When I first started looking at the issue, I read that an EXTENDED striped dataset would act as though it were on a single volume to the program. I would

Re: Calendars and political parties was Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program)

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:05:20 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: On 12 Aug 2015 11:08:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Leave it to the Republicans! In the case below, the issue has nothing to do with any branch of the United States of America Republican Party being French. cf.:

Re: How to determine how a dataset got deleted

2015-08-12 Thread Sri h Kolusu
gsg, SMF record type 17 has the information you need. I believe even DAF reads the SMF records. You can use the JCL shown here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bit.listserv.ibm-main/bM8BCu8et7M/tw0dsBr7uVYJ If you still need DAF you can get it here

Re: How to determine how a dataset got deleted

2015-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
DAF is very good. Just feed it raw SMF and it will give you lots of details. it is found on www.cbttape.org. You will either need the 60:69 if vsam or 17 if nonvsam Lizette -Original Message- From: Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com Sent: Aug 12, 2015 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: How to determine how a dataset got deleted

2015-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have not reassmebled it for 2.1 - but the records I am searching are fairly stable. Lizette -Original Message- From: Ed Finnell 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu Sent: Aug 12, 2015 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine how a dataset got

How to determine how a dataset got deleted

2015-08-12 Thread gsg
Is there a way to determine how a specific dataset was deleted from the system? We use to have a product called DCAF that we could use, but we no longer have it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

AW: Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-12 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I'm not a big fan of the Irisch commands (OEDIT, OGET, etc.), but for the problem at hand, OGETX with the SUFFIX() operand might be useful. All suffices must be the same, and the remaining name must be a valid member name. -- Peter Hunkeler

Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Hello, I have 2 SMS SCDS's and need to know the differences between them. Is there a way to compare them understandably? IDCAMS print produces a huge amount of unusable output, SUPERC claims there are no differences, which is incorrect. Kees.

Customizing CA7

2015-08-12 Thread Rajesh Janakiraman
Hi Mainframe Professionals, Good Day! My question may be stupid, but I just wanna know this. Is there any way to customize CA7 panels? i.e. can we change the options for canceling or restarting or force completing the job to different panel or different option? Kindly let me know, whether it

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-12 Thread retired mainframer
Most of the ISMF options have a print feature. Build a comprehensive listing for each SCDS and then run SUPERC against the listings. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Wednesday,

Re: IKJ56228I from GIMUNZIP?

2015-08-12 Thread Beesley, Paul
GIMUNZIP checks whether the dataset already exists. If it does, it reuses it. If not, it creates it. Regards and thanks Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:25 AM

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: I have 2 SMS SCDS's and need to know the differences between them. Is there a way to compare them understandably? IDCAMS print produces a huge amount of unusable output, SUPERC claims there are no differences, which is incorrect. Hmmm. Interesting. IDCAMS -

Re: Customizing CA7

2015-08-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Rajesh Janakiraman wrote: Is there any way to customize CA7 panels? Did you RTFM? Did you contacted CA? These folks are very helpful according to some IBM-MAIN followers. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecth -- For

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
There are differences and I want to see them all. I also found the DCOLLECT option and I think I am going to try this. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 12 August, 2015 11:08 To:

(slightly OT) RFE for ESP on CA Community Website

2015-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
I know there are some on this list interested in and supporting CA ESP. I have just added a request to enhance the way ESP (CA Workload Automation ESP Edition) manages the parms for startup. I would like some help in either making this a requirement or suggestions on how it could be improved.

Re: Mixed COBOL ewnvironment and Ent. COBOL

2015-08-12 Thread Tom Ross
Hi Tom... I have a question based on a comment you made to Itzchak. You said: None specifically for the VS COBOL II modules. OTOH, when recompiling with COBOL V5 we recommend a lot of testing, because it can reveal hidden=20 invalid COBOL programs. These programs could have been invalid for

Some Trivia: Happy Birthday IBM PC - You're 34 Today!

2015-08-12 Thread William Smith
Happy Birthday, IBM Personal Computer, August 12, 1981, the announcement date for the original from IBM Boca Raton, Florida, birthplace of PC DOS and OS/2. August 12 is also the birthday for MGM's release of The Wizard of OZ (1939) and Edison's first phonograph in 1877 (Mary had a little

Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program)

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Please don't post (or reply) with Subject: ... Digest) On 2015-08-12, at 08:42, Charles Mills wrote: Why not 360? Or 512? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_Calendar -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: IKJ56228I from GIMUNZIP?

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-12, at 08:07, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: On 8/12/2015 4:14 AM, Beesley, Paul wrote: GIMUNZIP checks whether the dataset already exists. If it does, it reuses it. If not, it creates it. Yup, what he said. Hmmm... Not so fast! I get the message when I specify replace=NO. In that

Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program)

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:19:04 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote: 365 31/128 is within one second of the mean tropical year; closer even than the 4000-year rule. Amazingly, if you do the math, the result of a 4/128 year rule is mathematically identical to the average days/year of a 4/100/400/3200-year

Re: IKJ56228I from GIMUNZIP?

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-12, at 08:07, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: On 8/12/2015 4:14 AM, Beesley, Paul wrote: GIMUNZIP checks whether the dataset already exists. If it does, it reuses it. If not, it creates it. Yup, what he said. When I'm faced with that, I use DISP=(MOD,CATLG); FREE; then reallocate OLD.

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)

2015-08-12 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Chris Hoelscher choelsc...@humana.com wrote: You say you want a (completed?) revolution? Oh yeah you know - we all want to change the world ('s orbit?) ​Not me! I would prefer to live in an advanced L5 arcology ​and just not worry about silly Earth centrist

Re: Mixed COBOL ewnvironment and Ent. COBOL

2015-08-12 Thread Tom Ross
Tx Tom. Is this (recompile) is sufficient for cobol ii under Cics 5.1? ITschak You do NOT have to recompile, you have to relink with REPLACE IGZEBST. You could OPTIONALLY recompile with a newer compiler, which would use a different bootstrap routine and eliminate the problem in a completely

3380 was actually FBA?

2015-08-12 Thread Jerry Callen
In another thread, l...@garlic.com wrote: ... but then if MVS had FBA support wouldn't have needed to do 3380 as CKD (even tho inherently it was FBA underneath) ... I didn't know that. Was that the first (and/or last?) IBM SLED to be inherently FBA under the hood? Where were the smarts for

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
You will find this is not easy. The SCDS holds lots of information. So a general request - what is different, would be huge. You might want to do smaller compares, The ACS Code The Dataclas, Mgtclas, Storclas, Stggroup, etc Print listings and do compares But at this time I do not know of

Re: Customizing CA7

2015-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
You might also want to join the CA COMMUNITIES on the support.ca.com website. You will find a forum/community that discusses all things CA7. They could also be helpful with this type of question. So long as you have a CA Site number, it is free to join. Lizette -Original Message-

Re: IKJ56228I from GIMUNZIP?

2015-08-12 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 8/12/2015 4:14 AM, Beesley, Paul wrote: GIMUNZIP checks whether the dataset already exists. If it does, it reuses it. If not, it creates it. Yup, what he said. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program)

2015-08-12 Thread Charles Mills
Leave it to the Republicans! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program) (Please

Re: 3380 was actually FBA?

2015-08-12 Thread Glen Hermannsfeldt (Contractor)
The important distinction of FBA is that block headers aren't rewritten when the data is changed. (Not counting when a low-level format is done, normally for the whole drive.) I don't know the low-level details of the 3380 to know. It might be that the 32 byte blocks are related to ECC, and

Re: 3380 was actually FBA?

2015-08-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jcal...@narsil.org (Jerry Callen) writes: In another thread, l...@garlic.com wrote: ... but then if MVS had FBA support wouldn't have needed to do 3380 as CKD (even tho inherently it was FBA underneath) ... I didn't know that. Was that the first (and/or last?) IBM SLED to be inherently

Re: Some Trivia: Happy Birthday IBM PC - You're 34 Today!

2015-08-12 Thread Aled Hughes
I recall a presentation by IBM Executives all those years back about the 'New Era of Computing' (or something corny like that). One presenter mentioned that there were other PCs around, but the IBM one had three things going for it over the others: I B M And the PCs of this world still

Re: Some Trivia: Happy Birthday IBM PC - You're 34 Today!

2015-08-12 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Aled Hughes 0050619ca8df-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: I recall a presentation by IBM Executives all those years back about the 'New Era of Computing' (or something corny like that). One presenter mentioned that there were other PCs around, but the

Re: 3380 was actually FBA?

2015-08-12 Thread Joel Ewing
On 08/12/2015 07:38 AM, Jerry Callen wrote: In another thread, l...@garlic.com wrote: ... but then if MVS had FBA support wouldn't have needed to do 3380 as CKD (even tho inherently it was FBA underneath) ... I didn't know that. Was that the first (and/or last?) IBM SLED to be