Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
Hi Bart, Thanks the below is exactly what I was looking to find out. I think the reason the HFS are all in the master catalog is it worked and nobody thought to change it, now that we are converting to ZFS we need to change it. Thanks James -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
Hi John, You mention using ZONEEDIT to point the DDDEFs into Never-Never Land to stop production dataset being updated by accident. All our DDDEFs use the volume so the targets always points at the correct datasets but this doesn't work for our HFS or ZFS because they need to be mounted at

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread John Eells
To expand on that thought a bit: - You can name the usercatalog using the volume name. - You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. - If you have more than one volume in your target volume set, you can

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Charles Mills
Depending on which of my several (G ...) IBM sign-ins I use, I either get a password error or a 500. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 2:00 AM To:

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Could you post the text here? I am curious about you want, that is not available now. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 18 January, 2016 16:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: A

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:04:53 -0500, John Eells wrote: >- You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog >thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. There used to be a requirement that the alias and the data set name be in the same catalog. I see in Managing

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:41:32 +, Chambers, James wrote: >Is there a better way to deal with the HFS or ZFS DDDEFs? Include the SYSRES VOLSER as part of the dsname. When you mount it, you can use in the mount specification. -- Tom Marchant

Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
Hi, We use a process of cloning on our Dev lpar to create new Sysres before we apply maintenance, it has worked fine for Zos 1r13 but we only used HFS. We have started to use ZFS for 2r1 which is fine if the Sysres is for the same Lpar the clone process is run on but I am now cloning a Sysres

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread william janulin
link is not accessable On Sunday, January 17, 2016 4:16 PM, Robert Prins wrote: If you consider this useful, please vote for it. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=82590 Robert -- Robert AH Prins robert.ah.pr...@gmail.com

RE How to change sysplex name

2016-01-18 Thread Skip Robinson
Changing sysplex name will certainly require an XCF 'cold start'. That is, all members must down, then IPL each member into the new sysplex. I can't look at our CDSes at the moment, but in every case where the format control statements contain sysplex name, you must format a new CDS with the new

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We also use a form of this strategy so there is NEVER a chance the running environments get impacted. Service is applied to a static environment, and then cloned as necessary to form resvol sets. All running systems us indirect cataloging and symbolics to locate datasets as needed. Jerry

Re: How to Dynamically add SUBSYTEM

2016-01-18 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm reluctant to jump in early with disappointing news, but I think you have to IPL. As promising as dynamic SSI sounded when it was introduced, it soon exhibited limited usability because a subsystem has to be coded to allow dynamic management. Even most IBM subsystems at first did not support

Re: How to Dynamically add SUBSYTEM

2016-01-18 Thread Jim Mulder
> We have a subsystem that did not properly get initialized with the IPL. > > In SYS1.PARMLIB(IEFSSN00) we have the following statement: >SUBSYS SUBNAME(SSI) INITRTN(SSIPINIT) INITPARM('3') > Subsystem SSI is an in-house written subsystem. > > During the IPL, we received the following

How to Dynamically add SUBSYTEM

2016-01-18 Thread Fred Kaptein
Hello, We have a subsystem that did not properly get initialized with the IPL. In SYS1.PARMLIB(IEFSSN00) we have the following statement: SUBSYS SUBNAME(SSI) INITRTN(SSIPINIT) INITPARM('3') Subsystem SSI is an in-house written subsystem. During the IPL, we received the following errors:

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Skip Robinson
Most posts in this thread seem to support the strategy of 'cloning a running system in order to do maintenance'. For as long as I can remember, we have pursued the opposite strategy: the service environment is permanent for the life of a ServerPac and is cloned to produce running systems to

Re: How to Dynamically add SUBSYTEM

2016-01-18 Thread Craig Pace
Without changing the name the sub-system name, you cannot. Craig -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Fred Kaptein Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 11:11 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How to Dynamically add

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Jon Butler
I propose the following fix for the IBM web sites: 'All links will work without "Deleting all IBM cookies or opening a "private" window on your browser." ' ;-)) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Charles Mills
I propose one userid that works on all IBM technical type sites, subject only to one's authorization to view or download the particular material. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jon Butler Sent: Monday,

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Hi James, We clone our sysres (maintained in sandbox) every month to generate IPL volumes for the Dev and Prod LPARs. Almost all datasets on the sysres volume are in a user catalog on that same sysres, including the VERSION zFS. We don't have a single zFS in the master catalog. We're 2.1 now,

How to change sysplex name

2016-01-18 Thread R.S.
The system is in monoplex mode, IPL is acceptable. How to do it? Replace sysplex CDS when system is down? What about other CDS'es? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Robert Prins
On 2016-01-18 15:38, Vernooij, CP - KLM , ITOPT1 wrote: Could you post the text here? I am curious about you want, that is not available now. Description: The 'S', 'F' and 'L' line commands are used to reshow hidden lines, and can only be entered on lines that are not displayed ***and*** not

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
Hi Tom, We already include it like OMVS.RESPR1.ROOT but the DDDEF only has the path. The below shows a DDDEF taken from the apply, it still means I need to make sure I got the mount right and the ZONEEDIT unlike the standard DDDEFs that use the volser to make sure the correct dataset is

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Charles Mills
The link in your signature is 404. Perhaps you mean prins? Also in your obfuscated e-mail address? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert Prins Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 10:03 AM To:

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Robert AH Prins
On 2016-01-18 15:34, Charles Mills wrote: Depending on which of my several (G ...) IBM sign-ins I use, I either get a password error or a 500. Deleting all IBM cookies (usually) helps, as does opening a "private" window on your browser. Robert -- Robert AH Prins robert(a)prino(d)org No

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Robert Prins
On 2016-01-18 16:30, Charles Mills wrote: The link in your signature is 404. Perhaps you mean prins? Also in your obfuscated e-mail address? Changed the link . My surname is Prins, see

Re: How to Dynamically add SUBSYTEM

2016-01-18 Thread Tom Brennan
I remember zapping the existing subsystem block in memory to some other name and then running the re-init. Probably not something I would do except on a test system or if we were about to IPL anyway. But from Jim Mulder's note, it sounds like 2.2 provides a way to do something similar -

Re: A useful(?) RFE: Enhance the S, F and L line commands to work with hidden lines

2016-01-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:02:33 +, Robert Prins wrote: >Description: The 'S', 'F' and 'L' line commands are used to reshow hidden >lines, >and can only be entered on lines that are not displayed ***and*** not hidden. > >It would be very useful if "doubled" ("SS", "FF" and "LL") versions could

Re: How to Dynamically add SUBSYTEM

2016-01-18 Thread Scott Ballentine
To follow up on Jim's comment... there are actually a couple of changes in z/OS 2.2 that makes this behave differently than older releases. First, you can delete a subsystem using the SETSSI DELETE command as Jim noted. Second, in this case, on z/OS 2.2 you wouldn't even need to do that, you could

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread John Eells
Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:04:53 -0500, John Eells wrote: - You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. There used to be a requirement that the alias and the data set name be in the same

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Art Gutowski
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:03:39 +, Chambers, James wrote: >We already include it like OMVS.RESPR1.ROOT but the DDDEF only has the path. >The below shows a DDDEF taken from the >apply, it still means I need to make >sure I got the mount right and the ZONEEDIT