Re: JES2 Changes in z/OS V2.2 - Presentation from 2015

I remember the time that $PQ worked without parameters. Blazing fast... Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Longabaugh, Robert E Sent: 07 December, 2016 20:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Changes

z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

One possible option is the IBM Content Navigator web user interface. You can get this interface with either Content Manager for z/OS or Content Manager OnDemand for z/OS. My best guess is the latter would be the better fit for your use case, but "ask your friendly IBM representative." The Content

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

Venkat Kulkarni wrote: >I should use SSL 992 port and with self signed certificate to enable SSL on >tso. Please correct me , if I am going in wrong direction. I should have replied to your comment earlier, but better delayed than never. I recommended using a well managed, unexpired server

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

Charles Mills asks: >Is there any good reason IBM could not offer Cloud Z starting at $0? IBM already does. See here for more information: http://millennialmainframer.com/2016/08/mainframe-free-stuff-2016-edition/

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 20:48:01 -0700, Alan Young wrote: >Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> When I am in a shell, and the only way I can think of to do a RECEIVE is >> ... > >This works for me from a interactive shell prompt on z/OS 2.1. >I sent myself a PDS member using XMIT. Then in the shell I do: >

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 18:39:26 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Okay, I think I picture this thing. Your customers write programs. The >programs invoke, by calling your API, some function that is a part of your >product. The users who run those programs have the ability to change the >behavior of that

Re: Alias to Datacom

I would think that would depend on how Datacom would handle it. So since this is an IBM Main list, it might better to go ask on the Datacom list. You can probably find something on communities.ca.com for data bases. https://communities.ca.com/community/ca-datacom-cadre You might also want

Re: DDs in USS?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: When I am in a shell, and the only way I can think of to do a RECEIVE is to stuff JCL down an INTRDR with an IKJEFT01 step that invokes a Rexx EXEC to queue a response to the RECEIVE prompt, it hurts as if I've run into a wall. But you'll excuse it if you can call RECEIVE

Alias to Datacom

Hi Does anyone use alias to point it to the DATACOM database file ? I am thinking of implementing that. Any suggestions ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: DDs in USS?

Okay, I think I picture this thing. Your customers write programs. The programs invoke, by calling your API, some function that is a part of your product. The users who run those programs have the ability to change the behavior of that function, let's call it making the function left-handed or

Re: DDs in USS?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: >It's the UNIX way: lotsa little things that connect, or perhaps nest, nicely. >Can we take this out of the hypothetical arena? May I infer that today >the "application" is being happily called from JCL or TSO, and a user who >wishes to enable the option adds a DD

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

cvitu...@hughes.net (Carmen Vitullo) writes: > Brings back some good memories - I enjoy reading your post, I seem to > have forgotten more about my life at Boeing than I remember, short > time, 11 years in Philly but I do recall the 4341 trail connected to > some new state of the art 3390

Re: DDs in USS?

Charles Mills wrote: Think of QSAM and VSAM. Are they the same? No. Are there things one could do with one but not the other? Yes. I'm still wondering if Theseus's boat is the original or a totally different boat since they patched it. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of

Re: zOSMF and CMF?

Of course, z/OSMF doesn't access RMF records directly. It interfaces to RMF facilities that present performance information for Z/OSMF to display. Similarly with CMF. z/OSMF interfaces to BMC's Mainview to present performance information. See here: https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-21208

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 17:28:04 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >I meant it in the same sense that Kernel Don use to say it: there is no >difference from a program's point of view. Obviously there are differences >in and gross omissions from the several human interfaces to z/OS with their >different

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 17:55:54 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: > >Re #1, if an existing application is being happily called from a shell >script, and the user really doesn't want to modify that, I guess they could >add an *outer* Rexx program that did the BPXWDYN and then called the >original shell

Re: DDs in USS?

With regard to Tony's first paragraph and the first sentence of the second sentence, agreed absolutely. You could not have said it better. With regard to Tony's last sentence, yes, that's a bar bet for you: "which of these is UNIX: Linux or z/OS?" (It's like "what NFL team plays its home games

Re: DDs in USS?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Are you using your DD only as a flag, or do you actually do I/O to it? Flag. It *is* an environment variable, for all practical purposes. OK, so the answers seem to be: 1) Use Rexx + BPXWDYN, which is probably OK, and/or 2) Have the API also do a getenv() if

Re: DDs in USS?

On 7 December 2016 at 15:23, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc- requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> Ain't no "sides" on z/OS. "There is no wall", etc. > > > >It took me a while to wrap my arms around that but it is true. It's an > important concept. There are only programs, and ways to

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:22:26 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: > >It's an API, called via the COBOL "CALL" verb or equivalent. The code it >calls runs the TIOT, and if it finds a particular DD, it behaves >differently. Yes, we could use an environment variable, but that isn't what >it does now. > If you

Re: DDs in USS?

SVC 99 available from C. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1 .bpxbd00/dynalloc.htm?sc=_latest Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: DDs in USS?

Are USS facilities and Legacy z/OS services one and the same? Are they perfectly integrated? Are there no things one could do in one but not in the other? Of course not. My point is that thinking of something as "a UNIX program" or "a traditional MVS program" misapprehends how things are.

Re: DDs in USS?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: >"calling" remains ambiguous. It could still refer to: >o The TSO CALL command. >o The Assembler CALL macro. >o The Rexx CALL instruction. >o Or. less precisely, Rexx ADDRESS LINKMVS. >BPXWDYN may solve the last three. The first one is hardest. OK, I've been

Re: TSO Setup on SSH -- password security

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:40:30 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >But:starting in z/OS P.T. OpenSSH 1.3 (HOS1130), you *can* use ssh, >sftp, scp from a 3270 OMVS shell - you just can't prompt the terminal for a >password or passphrase since it is not a real tty and OpenSSH requires tty >password masking.

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

Would not, could not, without a box... The contention (not entirely crazy) is that if they provide ANY service at all, they'll lose money. "Oh, so don't offer any service." Right, but then (they fear) people will report problems using their work system, so *de facto* they'll be servicing these

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?

I suspect CMF may have a GPMSERVE like connector, Sorry I could not be more help - BMC's technical support is generally pretty good, that would be my next route. they may still require the same security setup as the CFZCIM and GPMSERVE does if they do. Carmen - Original Message

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:02:39 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >> Ain't no "sides" on z/OS. "There is no wall", etc. > >It took me a while to wrap my arms around that but it is true. It's an >important concept. There are only programs, and ways to invoke programs >(shell, JCL, etc.) and facilities

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?

The resource plugin is enabled but it needs a connector to rmf - something cmf does not have. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 14:14:13 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> Rexx, yes with BPXWDYN. Shell, practically not. > >Ah, thanks. That looks like at least part of it. > >> What would you do with a DD if you had one? > >It's not what I would do with it, it's what something I'm

Re: DDs in USS?

> Ain't no "sides" on z/OS. "There is no wall", etc. It took me a while to wrap my arms around that but it is true. It's an important concept. There are only programs, and ways to invoke programs (shell, JCL, etc.) and facilities (GETMAIN, accept(), etc.). The method of invocation and the

Re: DDs in USS?

Does BPXWDYN solve the OP's problem? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DDs in USS? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:29

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: > I have a program that normally runs from batch, but which I'd like to > invoke > from USS. I can invoke it fine: the catch is that I need another DD > defined. > Is there a way in a shell script or equivalent to do so? > >

Re: DDs in USS?

On 7 December 2016 at 14:14, Phil Smith III wrote: > The API doesn't care whether I'm in USS or on the MVS side, but it > wants to find that DD in the TIOT. > Ain't no "sides" on z/OS. "There is no wall", etc. Tony H.

Re: DDs in USS?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Rexx, yes with BPXWDYN. Shell, practically not. Ah, thanks. That looks like at least part of it. > What would you do with a DD if you had one? It's not what I would do with it, it's what something I'm calling would do with it. And Walt Farrell wrote: > More

Re: DDs in USS?

Here's a complete example. It is actually useful in some contexts. $ echo " PUNCH TYPORG=PO" | ./iebptpch.rexx kirk.coz.sampjcl | sed 's/^.//' /* REXX */ /** REXX shell script to invoke the z/OS IEBPTPCH utility This script

Re: JES2 Changes in z/OS V2.2 - Presentation from 2015

$PJ2-1 was faster. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Changes in z/OS V2.2 - Presentation from 2015 On 6 December

Re: EXPLANATION ABOUT VALIDATE WHEN DOING A DS QD

So, what is it you are working on? What error messages? What IO issue? Any HCD or IO Gen issues? Device not coming online or responding? Perhaps if there were more detail on why you wish to use validate on the DS DQ command, more guidance from the list could be given. Remember: The more

Re: EXPLANATION ABOUT VALIDATE WHEN DOING A DS QD

"In addition, there is one action parameter, VALIDATE" says the documentation. That, coupled with "VALIDATE has no effect if the unit address has no physical device attached" is a pretty strong indication that there is an actual effect from VALIDATE. "Use the dump selection parameters, to

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:29:33 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >I have a program that normally runs from batch, but which I'd like to invoke >from USS. I can invoke it fine: the catch is that I need another DD defined. >Is there a way in a shell script or equivalent to do so? More

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

Gil, This is a good suggestion (start with a z/OS ssh shell session, where password prompts work). I very rarely use the TSO OMVS shell. But:starting in z/OS P.T. OpenSSH 1.3 (HOS1130), you *can* use ssh, sftp, scp from a 3270 OMVS shell - you just can't prompt the terminal for a password

Re: JES2 Changes in z/OS V2.2 - Presentation from 2015

On 6 December 2016 at 10:40, Lizette Koehler wrote: >JES2 Growth: Grow from 400K to 1M Active jobs It seems such a short time ago that job numbers had three digits... You could purge everything with $PJ1-999 . Tony H.

Re: zOSMF and CMF?

IIRC, about 95% of the record data is the same. Has anyone tried chatting with CMF Support at BMC? zN -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barry Merrill Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: LOOKAT gone? - Doc Buddy? Seriously?

Byzantine!!! Boy you can say that again! At 12/7/2016 12:13 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: On 2016-12-06 17:03, Dave Juraschek wrote: Apparently UX/UI is big stuff now. It has been for a long time. Jakob Nielsen has been leading the charge in this space for years: https://www.nngroup.com/ A good

Re: DDs in USS?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:29:33 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >I have a program that normally runs from batch, but which I'd like to invoke >from USS. I can invoke it fine: the catch is that I need another DD defined. >Is there a way in a shell script or equivalent to do so? > Rexx, yes with BPXWDYN.

Curl; FTP; HTTP proxy; firewall?

(I posted this by mistake to ISPF-L. Trying again here where it more properly belongs. Or should it be MVS-OE?) Has any reader used curl to fetch a FTP resource via an HTTP proxy through a firewall? Did it work for you? Not for me; I get corrupted data. Example:

DDs in USS?

I have a program that normally runs from batch, but which I'd like to invoke from USS. I can invoke it fine: the catch is that I need another DD defined. Is there a way in a shell script or equivalent to do so? -- For

Re: EXPLANATION ABOUT VALIDATE WHEN DOING A DS QD

John Dawes wrote: >Could someone clear up what the command DS QD,413Z,VALIDATE actually do? The >doc says the following: >VALIDATE : Uses status information acquired directly from a device to correct >inconsistent extended function status information maintained in host processor >storage.

Re: LOOKAT gone? - Doc Buddy? Seriously?

On 2016-12-06 17:03, Dave Juraschek wrote: Apparently UX/UI is big stuff now. It has been for a long time. Jakob Nielsen has been leading the charge in this space for years: https://www.nngroup.com/ A good (and short!) book on the topic is "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug. IBM's

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 10:58:02 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote: >Hello John, >Sorry for delay in response and I tried the JCL you suggest for sftp >transfer but getting below issue on job output > >debug1: Authentications that can continue: >publickey,password,keyboard-interacti > First, partition the

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

FWIW, a very interesting way to authenticate z/OS OpenSSH sessions is using Kerberos (perhaps with Windows Active Directory). z/OS provides Kerberos as part of its free feature " z/OS Network Authentication Service", and this is compatible with a Windows Active Directory domain and MIT Kerberos

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:41 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > With openssh ssh or sftp commands, a password (or pass phrase) has to > > either be read from a tty or you can use an SSH_ASKPASS program.

EXPLANATION ABOUT VALIDATE WHEN DOING A DS QD

G'Day, Could someone clear up what the command DS QD,413Z,VALIDATE actually do? The doc says the following: VALIDATE : Uses status information acquired directly from a device to correct inconsistent extended function status information maintained in host processor storage. VALIDATE has no

Re: zOSMF and CMF?

Have your installed the RMF plugin ? I have z/OSMF installed with only the configuration assistant and the WLM plugin, I've not tried to install the RMF plugin I don't see anything specific in the descriptor file for the RMF plugin that is specific to RMF only. see izu.rmf.descriptor in

Re: zOSMF and CMF?

The only difference in the CMF and RMF SMF records is the value in the PRODUCT name in CMF is either CMF-CPM or CMF-IPF. But I don't know if those records are accepted by zOSMF. Barry Merrilly yours, Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD President-Programmer Merrill Consultants MXG Software

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > With openssh ssh or sftp commands, a password (or pass phrase) has to > either be read from a tty or you can use an SSH_ASKPASS program. You > can't pipe it in as suggested earlier in this script. > ​Do you have an example

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

With openssh ssh or sftp commands, a password (or pass phrase) has to either be read from a tty or you can use an SSH_ASKPASS program. You can't pipe it in as suggested earlier in this script. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com PS> examples of using passwords in batch / jcl

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

John McKown wrote: My apologies. I had forgotten that I had everything set up properly to do a "password-less" ssh connection to my test Linux box. Venkat should also pull the password line out of the JCL if he's going to use public key. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

venkat kulkarni wrote: Then I also run below command sftp -v -b -op117@10.221.129.10 from USS and got similar error, If you're doing it interactively, do NOT use the "-b -" switch. Just sftp -v op117@10.221.129.10 Also, do you have a target host you can ssh to? Are you successful

Re: USS PFS Interface - 136 byte save area?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 08:56:08 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >I meant that as a general statement; it would need to be implemented by the >Metal C compiler. I understood that. There is still the problem of where to store the information so that it can be checked. Does Metal C have any global data

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

Is there any good reason IBM could not offer Cloud Z starting at $0? Would not? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Chapman Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: USS PFS Interface - 136 byte save area?

I meant that as a general statement; it would need to be implemented by the Metal C compiler. sas On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:26:24 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: > > >However, it's really very simple

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

OK, I made a mistake in my testing. On my z/OS system, I have the file: ~/.ssh/id_rsa . This file contains the SSH key for my test Linux system, which I was using in my testing. I had overlooked this when I was testing my script. This SSH file was created _without_ a passphrase; specifically so

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

Brings back some good memories - I enjoy reading your post, I seem to have forgotten more about my life at Boeing than I remember, short time, 11 years in Philly but I do recall the 4341 trail connected to some new state of the art 3390 controllers running MVS 4.3 ? or 5 strictly for an

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:54:27 -0500, Steve wrote: >If you look at the sheer cost if setting up a zOS ecosystem, its not cheap. Yeah, that's the key point not mentioned in the article: building your system on AWS starts at $0. However... AWS costs can add up too. Most of

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

I have cross verified about all directory and files permission you suggested earlier. z/OS USS side drwx-- 2 MEAS OMVSGRP 8192 Dec 6 01:47 .ssh -rw--- 1 MEAS OMVSGRP 668 Dec 6 01:47 id_dsa -rw-r--r-- 1 MEAS OMVSGRP 603 Dec 6 01:47 id_dsa.pub

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

venkat kulkarni wrote: To provide you move detail, I earlier copied id_dsa.pub key from mainframe to target host authorized_keys file. So, in place of id_dsa.pub key, will it make difference, if we copy id_dsa key to target host. No, that wouldn't help. The public key is what is needed in

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

No, didn't work. Same issue as earlier. I don't know why it's not accepting password mentioned in JCL for login to target host. To provide you move detail, I earlier copied id_dsa.pub key from mainframe to target host authorized_keys file. So, in place of id_dsa.pub key, will it make

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

venkat kulkarni wrote: This time I run with -b - -v option and error are as below. Try reversing the options. I think -v has to be earlier. Do: -v -b - -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

This time I run with -b - -v option and error are as below. debug1: identity file /u/ibm08/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /u/ibm08/.ssh/id_dsa type 2 debug1: identity file /u/ibm08/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /u/ibm08/.ssh/id_ecdsa type -1 debug1: identity

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

venkat kulkarni wrote: FOTS0806 EDC5129I No such file or directory. (errno2=0x05620062) (-v) Yes, not: sftp -b -v .. but rather sftp -b - -v .. I pointed out my mistake typing the first message The flag is "-b -". -b expects a file argument. The extra dash "-" means "the

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

Hello Jack, I run JCL with your suggestion and this time I am getting below error. /SFTP001 JOB ACCT,NAME,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,NOTIFY= //SFTP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC //SYSTSIN DD * OPUT 'IBM08.TEST.DATA'