Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:59 PM, John Eells wrote: > > Password protection of catalogs has not been supported for some time now. > The current AMS book says: > > "Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets > contained in a catalog. If they are

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Warning! Edward and I am now hijacking this thread to discuss something very > odd/fishy... ;-D > > :-D *-D ;-D > > Edward Gould wrote: > >> Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 18:59:22 -0500, John Eells wrote: > >"Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets >contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be ignored and >no message will be issued. Previously, passwords were ignored only for >SMS-managed data

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

Password protection of catalogs has not been supported for some time now. The current AMS book says: "Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be ignored and no message will be issued. Previously,

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Edward Gould wrote: > > Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. > Worked like a charm for us. > > Ed >> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht >> wrote: >> >>

Re: Uppercasing MVS operator commands

Elardus Engelbrecht wrote, in part: >Are you or they using quotes? Or are something inside SDSF customized like >this panel ISFACM4 for example? >Or, is your automation software capturing that command and then pass it to the >system in lower case? Jeez, I'm losing it. Yes, I meant the PARM

Re: Uppercasing MVS operator commands

Commands by and large do not need to be folded to uppercase because the SVC34 / MGCR interface does a smart "fold" which honors quotation marks. I suspect the immediate /cmd option knows not to mess with the command but the extended panel is at the mercy of the ISPF uppercase panel option

Re: p370 & p390

Well, "W Mainframe" is not exactly straightforward. Or if that's his or her real name, I guess the career path was pretty much fore-ordained. Too bad Conor wasn't named Conor Mainframe. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: p370 & p390

On 14 December 2016 at 14:36, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Do you really expect anybody to respond positively with such a hidden email > address. I know where parts and running systems can be purchased, but you > went to so much trouble to hide your identity that I can't give you the >

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

I think the reason is "least astonishment." Why would anyone expect that saying "put me in problem state" or "put me in key 0/my own key" would specifically and intentionally preclude my ability to put myself in my own key? Ain't gonna change now. Unless someone wants to do a requirement. (Not

Re: Uppercasing MVS operator commands

Phil Smith wrote: >We have some fun yesterday: one of my team was having trouble with an operand >being passed to an STC from SDSF on startup. >After a bunch of "it works for me, I'm cutting & pasting what you're saying >you're doing?!" we finally discovered that he was using the "System

Re: Uppercasing MVS operator commands

Hmm. I just did the classic d t from the /+ panel and it worked just fine: RESPONSE= IEE136I LOCAL: TIME=13.45.48 DATE=2016.349 UTC: RESPONSE=TIME=19.45.48 DATE=2016.349 Perhaps, in addition, some commands are case sensitive and some are not? Perhaps quoted operands don't get

Re: p370 & p390

Do you really expect anybody to respond positively with such a hidden email address. I know where parts and running systems can be purchased, but you went to so much trouble to hide your identity that I can't give you the information. Tony Thigpen W Mainframe wrote on 12/14/2016 12:47 PM:

Uppercasing MVS operator commands

We have some fun yesterday: one of my team was having trouble with an operand being passed to an STC from SDSF on startup. After a bunch of "it works for me, I'm cutting & pasting what you're saying you're doing?!" we finally discovered that he was using the "System Command Extension" panel

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

On 14 December 2016 at 08:38, Peter Relson wrote: > No it is not a bug. The "expectation" is incorrect. The updating of the > PKM is fully documented and is what we wanted it to be. I'm not saying it's a bug, but it feels immediately wrong for reasons I'm having trouble

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

Warning! Edward and I am now hijacking this thread to discuss something very odd/fishy... ;-D :-D *-D ;-D Edward Gould wrote: >Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. >Worked like a charm for us. Passwords? Hmmm, my very first boss (now dead) used that, but

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

On 12/14/2016 10:29 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:00:19 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: Obviously, this will need to be looked at if we ever move it above the bar... ... or run AMODE 64. If this module ever runs AMODE(64), all we need to do is change this: OILH R15,X'8000'

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:00:19 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >Obviously, this will need to be looked at if we ever move it above the >bar... ... or run AMODE 64. If I was to implement something like this now, I would build a 128-bit PSW and use LPSWE. -- Tom Marchant

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

Thanks! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3 On 12/14/2016 8:47 AM, Charles

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

On 12/14/2016 8:47 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Interesting. I have avoided going there, but perhaps I should. The code (originally developed many, many years ago) builds and saves a model left-half PSW at initialization time, thus allowing the actual switch back to problem state and TCB key to

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Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

Good thought. We try to avoid obstacles to quick POC installation, but that has merit. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

Interesting. I have avoided going there, but perhaps I should. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on SPKA and

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

Thanks. We don't like "significantly slower" moves. There are also pointers to update with CSG. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:37 AM To:

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

I am not sure how much more efficient using a two MODESET SVCs to flip in and out of Key0/Sup would be compared to a single PC-ss. I would also advise to not use key0 for any of your application memory unless absolutely necessary. Have you considered a PPT entry for your jobstep program so

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Well, yes, the why is to access shared 64-bit common. > > It's worked well for years. A PC service to move some data and increment a > pointer (millions of times per hour) seemed like overkill. > > Charles > > ​Just

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

On 12/14/2016 6:04 AM, Charles Mills wrote: My only interest in using SPKA was to avoid having to use an SVC just to effectively reduce my privileges (key 0 to key 8). The program does this switch from key 8 to key 0 and back over a million times per hour per LPAR at several locations. Using an

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

Well, yes, the why is to access shared 64-bit common. It's worked well for years. A PC service to move some data and increment a pointer (millions of times per hour) seemed like overkill. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: HSM old tape cleanup

Try cycling HSM Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tony Thigpen > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM old tape cleanup > > Well, I tried the audit

Re: HSM old tape cleanup

We got by our chpid problem resolved. We were able to perform an audit for the bad tape. Thanks. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 12/14/2016 10:11 AM: Well, I tried the audit command. Now I have a dead-lock situation. I did not know that the command would attempt to read the old tape. The

Re: ISH history - trying to solve a weird problem

You might look at SMF Record 92. It might help in this case. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Baby Eklavya > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: ISH

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Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. Worked like a charm for us. Ed > On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Jesse Robinson wrote: > >> And once you have all protections in place, remember that someone

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

Charles I am struggling to understand why you would want to run key0 and problem state anyway - it seems like a very strange brew and a bit of an oxymoron. Another question - why do you need Key0 in the first place? Is it just to access non-user key CSA ? If you have code that is running

Re: HSM old tape cleanup

Well, I tried the audit command. Now I have a dead-lock situation. I did not know that the command would attempt to read the old tape. The 3490 drives and the chipid had been taken offline. Then the 3490 powered down. When I issued the command, HSM wants a 3490 tape drive I receive: STC05537

Re: ISH history - trying to solve a weird problem

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:16:08 -0600, Baby Eklavya wrote: > > > >When working through omvs shell, our home has a .sh_history file that > records what was done. But what if it is done from

Re: ISH history - trying to solve a weird problem

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:16:08 -0600, Baby Eklavya wrote: > >When working through omvs shell, our home has a .sh_history file that records >what was done. But what if it is done from Ishell ? Do we have a similar place >where we can see the history of what was done on Ishell ? > >Why I am asking

Re: IBM Lays Out Plans to Hire 25,000 in U.S. Ahead of Trump Meeting

People sometimes use "investment" (and its cognates) more loosely than a CPA would. Sales rep: "So your total investment in this software would be $86,500" -- in spite of the fact that the company will probably expense the cost, not capitalize it. "Investment" sounds so much better than

Re: IBM Lays Out Plans to Hire 25,000 in U.S. Ahead of Trump Meeting

W dniu 2016-12-14 o 15:27, Tom Marchant pisze: On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:26 -0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote: plans to hire about 25,000 people in the U.S. and invest $1 billion over the next four years Did anyone else notice this? If you hire 25,000 people and pay them a $10,000 salary, that would

Re: IBM Lays Out Plans to Hire 25,000 in U.S. Ahead of Trump Meeting

I don't think that the number ($1billion) and the number of hires are necessarily related. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: IBM Lays Out Plans to Hire 25,000 in U.S. Ahead of Trump Meeting

FYI - Salary is not investment. Salary is an expense. Investment is money spent generally on physical items, although it can be for R & D, which in the world of software is 99.9% salary. $10,000 doesn't get you a programmer in India, let alone in the USA which is where they are saying they

Re: IBM Lays Out Plans to Hire 25,000 in U.S. Ahead of Trump Meeting

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:26 -0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote: >plans to hire about >25,000 people in the U.S. and invest $1 billion over the next four >years Did anyone else notice this? If you hire 25,000 people and pay them a $10,000 salary, that would add up to $250 million per year, or a

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

I agree 100%. And while I am here, may I vent? I spend ten minutes composing a thoughtful RCF. I hit Submit. The page sits there spinning its wheels for about five minutes. And then "Our apologies.The page you requested cannot be displayed." G. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

I would argue that the principal of "least astonishment" would suggest that granting key0 would not imply the loss of current key. But I guess doc is doc. On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:38:50 -0500 Peter Relson wrote: :>>Yep, it is a bug. :> :>>The PSW key mask has key 0 and key9

Re: HSM old tape cleanup

Tony, How about the brute force method? HSEND LIST TTOC(153818) which should give you the list of active datasets on the tape, then HDEL of each dataset, emptying the tape? Once the tape is empty, HSM and CA1 should just scratch the tape without requiring a mount of it. Rex -Original

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

>Yep, it is a bug. >The PSW key mask has key 0 and key9 after the combination. Not key 8. I would >not expect MODESET to alter the key mask. No it is not a bug. The "expectation" is incorrect. The updating of the PKM is fully documented and is what we wanted it to be. If you want to be

Re: HSM old tape cleanup

Tony, ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT You can fix this error by issuing the following: HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dsn) For the tapes with "IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR" you will have to delete either the T records in the OCDS or their

Re: HSM old tape cleanup

There are variations on the syntax of the DELVOL command. One of them should do what you want. If not, the LIST TTOC and delete of individual items will always work as well From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony

Re: IBM Lays Out Plans to Hire 25,000 in U.S. Ahead of Trump Meeting

sounds about right. On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:58 AM, Donald J. wrote: I tried to re-apply for an opening. Got to page 9 of the 10 page online form. It said something about if former employee, fill out item X. Unfortunately item X was not on that page, and

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Re: HSM old tape cleanup

They are in both catalogs. I am not currently concerned with the CA-1 catalog since CA-1 normally scratches the tape when HSM recycles a tape. Anyway, I can handle CA-1 when/if I get HSM cleaned up. I am trying to clean-up un-readable 3490 tapes listed in the output from: HSEND LIST TTOC

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

I think you are right Phil. I recall the P70 purely for PWD customers. This was essentially replaced by FLEX (which sold in their hundreds) for PWD and Commercial users worldwide. Sadly 'killed off' by IBM after the Platform Solutions debacle. Cheers! ALH -Original Message-

ISH history - trying to solve a weird problem

Hello Listers , When working through omvs shell, our home has a .sh_history file that records what was done. But what if it is done from Ishell ? Do we have a similar place where we can see the history of what was done on Ishell ? Why I am asking this question is because we had a weird issue