Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Edward Gould
Radoslaw: Take a look at CBTTAPE.ORG they used to have there. We wrote our own and no longer have access to it. Ed > On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, R.S. wrote: > > I have a broken PS VBS file (incomplete records), when I try to read it with

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#60 [EXTERNAL] ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#61 [EXTERNAL] ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#69

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:25:09 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote: >Paul, that doesn't answer the question of whether data was written to the >dataset with LRECL=X, the question I asked. Provides a way that the data is >actually valid. > >Otherwise the data is invalid. > IIRC, without reviewing the

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Bill Woodger
Paul, that doesn't answer the question of whether data was written to the dataset with LRECL=X, the question I asked. Provides a way that the data is actually valid. Otherwise the data is invalid. Are you really so sure that a program, with no knowledge of the expected structure of the data,

Re: LE Pre-initialization again - catch-22 situation

2017-03-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Further investigation and some additional coding has shown that the problem I have is that the (term) call to CEEPIPI apparently DELETE's all LOADed modules whether they were loaded by LE functions or by user code following the (init_sub) and (add_entry) calls. Displaying the storage at the

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:07:18 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote: >Simple, John. You produce the message Paul wants. Can't be clearer. > Block sequence, offset, segment sequence, record sequence, cause. Note that segment sequence and record sequence may be indeterminate if the VBS is broken badly enough.

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Bill Woodger
Simple, John. You produce the message Paul wants. Can't be clearer. Radoslav, Was the data set written with LRECL=X, to get "long" records? What is the data? Why is it VBS? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On 2017-03-20, at 12:45, R.S. wrote: > > > > //SYSINDD * > > OPTION COPY,SPANINC=RC4 > > SRSK.INPUT.BROKEN dataset is DSORG=PS,RECFM=VBS,LRECL= > 32760,BLKSIZE=27998 > > > It appears not

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:27:25 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:51:43 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >> >>Thanks for the explanation. Normally I have no reason to run REJECT PURGE >>since I do purge at accept time. For my z/OS zones I do have to do that

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-03-20, at 12:45, R.S. wrote: > > //SYSINDD * > OPTION COPY,SPANINC=RC4 > SRSK.INPUT.BROKEN dataset is DSORG=PS,RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32760,BLKSIZE=27998 > It appears not to tell you which record is broken. Alas. > BTW: Using STOPAFT= I found the first 27019 records are OK, the next

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:51:43 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >Thanks for the explanation. Normally I have no reason to run REJECT PURGE >since I do purge at accept time. For my z/OS zones I do have to do that >because >the 2 companies each have their own dlib zone to go along with the 2 target

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Longabaugh, Robert E
Restore also does a reject if the options entry is set to "REJECT". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be

LE Pre-initialization again - catch-22 situation

2017-03-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I have been experimenting with dynamic mixing of LE pre-initialization and non-le initialization in the same assembler main program, and I do know that they cannot be both used at the same time; you can only do one or the other at a time. So I tried to set things up so that if I found the

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:36:28 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >> Kirt - if you are still listening: Why oh why has "CLEANUP COMPRESS(ALL)" >> never >> been enhanced to include the SMPPTS or made an additional option? > >Mostly I think because the REJECT PURGE command with the

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
j...@crossno.us (John Crossno) writes: > It had everything to do with "legacy" network security, not following > best security practices, etc. Where the research talks about > investments in modernization, they imply that the problem is "archaic" > 30-year old COBOL systems, when that really isn't

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread R.S.
Sri, Here is my job: // SET WEJ=SRSK.INPUT.BROKEN //** //K10 EXEC PGM=ICEMAN //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SORTIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN= //SORTOUT DD DSN=SRSK.VBSFIX.TMP,DISP=(,CATLG), // LIKE= //SYSINDD * OPTION COPY,SPANINC=RC4 SRSK.INPUT.BROKEN dataset is

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> I used to fix it with ICEGENER and SPANINC=RC4 option. >>> However it does not work - ICEGENER job ends with RC16 and ICE141A 2 SPANNED RECORD ON SORTIN COULD NOT BE ASSEMBLED - REASON CODE IS 03 R.S, SPANINC=RC4 specifies that DFSORT should issue message ICE197I (once), set a return

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Phil Smith
To find John Crossno's comments, go to https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/163187/ Then hit END 4 or 5 times (to cause the page to autoload more stuff) and search the page for COBOL. Beware, as he noted, they reposted it; you want the one from yesterday, not Friday (which has two comments).

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com (Martin Packer) writes: > Not to disagree with anything anyone has said, I think one thing might > work against us: > > I don't know when restrictions on encryption were lifted but when I first > was involved with encryption in the late 1980's it was pretty restrictive

Re: Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:29 PM, R.S. wrote: > I have a broken PS VBS file (incomplete records), when I try to read it > with IEBGENER or IFASMFDP (it is SMF dump) I get abend S002. > I used to fix it with ICEGENER and SPANINC=RC4 option. > > However it does not

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
arno...@us.ibm.com (Todd Arnold) writes: > Gee, I've been developing crypto technology for 30+ years that runs in > those environments - so it's certainly news to me that it can't be > done :-) re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#60 [EXTERNAL] ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-20 o 14:54, John Eells pisze: R.S. wrote: Once upon a time I had to change SMPPTS to PDS because of ...size limits. The limit of *single member( for PDSE was not enough to keep my big fat PTF (yes, it was WAS). PDS has no such limit - the limit is full PDS (64k TRK). However

Broken VBS and ICE141A

2017-03-20 Thread R.S.
I have a broken PS VBS file (incomplete records), when I try to read it with IEBGENER or IFASMFDP (it is SMF dump) I get abend S002. I used to fix it with ICEGENER and SPANINC=RC4 option. However it does not work - ICEGENER job ends with RC16 and ICE141A 2 SPANNED RECORD ON SORTIN COULD NOT

Re: RACF Non-expiring passwords

2017-03-20 Thread retired mainframer
Are you saying that attempting to change the password with the RACF panels fails but using ALU with the same password and options succeeds? Do you have a password validation exit? Can you show us your password rules and the panel data (use X, x, 1, and $ as appropriate for the password)?

Re: Mainframe JOBS in Austin

2017-03-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jon Butler wrote: > It's not libel if it's true...although they may know where you live ;¬)) > > ​But remember that, regardless of truth (per Pilate: "What is truth?"; John 18:38) you can still get sued and convicted for libel if the has

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Bill Woodger
Martin, I doubt the US government was ever restricted, since they were effectively the source of the restrictions... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: Mainframe JOBS in Austin

2017-03-20 Thread Jon Butler
It's not libel if it's true...although they may know where you live ;¬)) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Bill Woodger
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:33:10 -0400, George Rodriguez wrote: >Does anyone think that Computerworld is going to write a retraction? > > No. And it is not just Computerworld, a search-engine finds at least 23 similar references to the report. Maybe some

Re: RACF Non-expiring passwords

2017-03-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Elaine Beal wrote: >We have a non-expiring password that we've used for years and somehow failed >the other night. I reset with an alu line command but the new password doesn't >work. When I go through the panels it says the current password isn't valid. >We have changed password rules but I

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Chris Hoelscher
However you CAN change what smp/e to smppts entries on an accept with the purge setting Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services : humana.com 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 714-8615, (502) 476-2538 >

RACF Non-expiring passwords

2017-03-20 Thread Elaine Beal
We have a non-expiring password that we've used for years and somehow failed the other night. I reset with an alu line command but the new password doesn't work. When I go through the panels it says the current password isn't valid. We have changed password rules but I don't see where that

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread CM Poncelet
Yes, ACCEPT deletes its PTFs from SMPPTS - I had overlooked that. On 20/03/2017 11:30, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2017-03-17 o 23:28, CM Poncelet pisze: >> [...] >> BTW SMPPTS is written to only during RECEIVE. Else it is only read. > > What about ACCEPT? >

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Martin Packer
Not to disagree with anything anyone has said, I think one thing might work against us: I don't know when restrictions on encryption were lifted but when I first was involved with encryption in the late 1980's it was pretty restrictive who could have it. So the point is - because of the

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread George Rodriguez
Does anyone think that Computerworld is going to write a retraction? *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *IT Enterprise Applications* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(954) 415-7586 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-251* *West

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Edward Gould
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 8:54 AM, John Eells wrote: > > R.S. wrote: > >> Once upon a time I had to change SMPPTS to PDS because of ...size >> limits. The limit of *single member( for PDSE was not enough to keep my >> big fat PTF (yes, it was WAS). PDS has no such limit - the

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Edward Gould
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 8:12 AM, John Crossno wrote: > > If one reads the article, then digs into the underlying research, and > finally the Congressional report on the OPM incidents (all 250 pages of > it), it's quite easy to see that the authors of the research and subsequent >

Re: ADR144E

2017-03-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
willie bunter wrote: >I am trying to troubleshoot a user's job which is using ADRDSSU. That job is DELETING the datasets on the selected volsers. Is that what the user wants? >I cannot find the reason why the job fails on a : Others kindly gave you good replies about the INCLUDE filter. Just

Re: ADR144E

2017-03-20 Thread willie bunter
John, Thanks for pointing out the error : ** - Thanks to all who responded. On Mon, 3/20/17, John McKown wrote: Subject: Re: ADR144E To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Monday, March 20, 2017, 9:18 AM On Mon,

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:54:38 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >> However nowadays we have PDSE v2 with much bigger limit for member size. > >It's for that reason, among others, that we have PTF size limits, and >the maximum size of a PDSE V1 member was one of the things on the list >(now replaced by the

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread John Eells
R.S. wrote: Once upon a time I had to change SMPPTS to PDS because of ...size limits. The limit of *single member( for PDSE was not enough to keep my big fat PTF (yes, it was WAS). PDS has no such limit - the limit is full PDS (64k TRK). However nowadays we have PDSE v2 with much bigger limit

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Kirt - if you are still listening: Why oh why has "CLEANUP COMPRESS(ALL)" never been enhanced to include the SMPPTS or made an additional option? Mostly I think because the REJECT PURGE command with the COMPRESS option provides essentially the same function I think you are asking CLEANUP to

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
FWIW, I was notified that my personal information was part of the OPM data breach. Only problem is I've never worked for, nor applied for a federal job. However, back in 2007 I did work for an outsourcer who had a federal account. Perhaps that is how my personal information got there. I

Re: ADR144E

2017-03-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:12 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Good Day To All, > > I am trying to troubleshoot a user's job which is using ADRDSSU. I cannot > find the reason why the job fails on a : > > ADR144E (002)-RI03P(02), INCOMPLETE

Re: ADR144E

2017-03-20 Thread Burrell, Todd
Shouldn't the filter be something like INCLUDE( ** )? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ADR144E Good Day To All, I am trying

ADR144E

2017-03-20 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All, I am trying to troubleshoot a user's job which is using ADRDSSU. I cannot find the reason why the job fails on a : ADR144E (002)-RI03P(02), INCOMPLETE SPECIFICATION IN DATA SET REFERENCED BY DDNAME FILTERDD Below is the jcl: /*

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread John Crossno
If one reads the article, then digs into the underlying research, and finally the Congressional report on the OPM incidents (all 250 pages of it), it's quite easy to see that the authors of the research and subsequent article are implying that legacy=mainframe/COBOL, while the real problem(s)

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Todd Arnold wrote: >Gee, I've been developing crypto technology for 30+ years that runs in those >environments - so it's certainly news to me that it can't be done :-) Amazing! ;-) No one said those cards are that *fast* ! >Looking at the ICSF Application Programmer's Guide, which defines

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Todd - you're bringing logic and fact to the table and those who distribute FUD hate that and do all they can to both ignore it and obscure it. :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-20 Thread Todd Arnold
Gee, I've been developing crypto technology for 30+ years that runs in those environments - so it's certainly news to me that it can't be done :-) Looking at the ICSF Application Programmer's Guide, which defines the ways most z/OS applications get cryptographic services, I see this: ICSF

Re: SSL on tso

2017-03-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
saurabh khandelwal wrote: >We have requirement to enable SSL for two access with ibm PCOOM emulator Are you referring to IBM PCOM emulater? Just checking about your spelling. >with port 992 for secure connection. It depends on what your TCP/IP staff is using that port or any other port for

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-17 o 23:28, CM Poncelet pisze: [...] BTW SMPPTS is written to only during RECEIVE. Else it is only read. What about ACCEPT? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-18 o 22:38, Mark Zelden pisze: On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 22:00:52 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Pretty sure I used to do exactly this for the same reason Mark does. However, now SMPPTS% is all PDSE, compression becomes a non-issue. The system knows not to

Re: Can SMPPTS datasets be consolidated?

2017-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-17 o 22:03, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On 2017-03-17, at 14:44, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: By 'compress', I mean plain old IEBCOPY to squeeze out the gas left by deleted members. I realize after my previous post that I now routinely create SMPPTS% as PDSE, so compression is not an

Re: "embedded" ISPF panels/message/etc

2017-03-20 Thread Robert Prins
On 2017-03-14 15:27, John McKown wrote: I want to write an ISPF application which is self contained. I vaguely remembered that someone, sometime, said it is possible to "embed" the ISPF panels / message / et al in the REXX itself. The only thing that I've seen is more like an shell HERE

SSL on tso

2017-03-20 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello group, We have requirement to enable SSL for two access with ibm PCOOM emulator with port 992 for secure connection. I tried looking at document and rebook but didn't find any implementation steps. Can anybody help to make this setup work. Regards Saurabh