Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs

2017-10-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
Clark Morris asked: >Do test transactions/events/tasks to make sure the software works get >charged? How does the package recognize a test? Please "talk with your friendly IBM representative" if you'd like further details on this pricing option ("IBM Payments Pricing Solution for z/OS") for IBM

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
On 20/10/2017 12:29 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:47:47 +0800, David Crayford wrote: Thanks Kirk! Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it does allow us to ship a batch

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread scott Ford
Kees, Do you all have a product to scan syslogs and email them or did you write it yourself ? Scott On Oct 19, 2017, 3:33 PM -0400, Edward Gould , wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:39 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > > wrote: > > > > We have

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread retired mainframer
Do I understand correctly? You want to submit the same JCL you are currently submitting. By fiddling with the library containing utility A (or possibility a library earlier in some concatenation), the step that originally executed A will now execute your program. Your program will

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread Edward Gould
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:55 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. > wrote: > > John your last assumption is correct. What I'm attempting to do is this. We > have utility A, which I want to replace with utility B without making > hundreds of JCL changes, and going through change

Re: z13s HMC remote console

2017-10-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Rebooted, which I do as infrequently as possible. No help. Then deleted all history stuff including cookies. I know that worked because I'm being prompted for data as if I had a new computer. Still no help. I'll shut up now. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm sure that Gil will eventually ask, but: - Is AOPBATCH supported if you don't license it? - If you do license it, is it supported for anything other than running PSF utilities? :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com

AW: Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
​>I just checked. AOPBATCH is on my z/OS 1.12 system in AOP.AAOPMOD1, which is a "distribution" library. We don't license whatever the product is either. So it is shipped. I didn't check to see if it would actually run.​ z/OS is a package of elements and features. It used to be that features

AW: Re: Where is the "z/OS V2R3 Elements and Features" web site?

2017-10-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Thanks to Susan's hint about the html file in the indexed collection, it was not too hard to create two Windows command files to create books with meaningful names. Both create subdirectories by bookshelf. One then moves and renames the PDF files (which is what I need for the copy on my iPad),

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:55 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. < rpin...@firsttennessee.com> wrote: > John your last assumption is correct. What I'm attempting to do is this. > We have utility A, which I want to replace with utility B without making > hundreds of JCL changes, and going through change

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
John your last assumption is correct. What I'm attempting to do is this. We have utility A, which I want to replace with utility B without making hundreds of JCL changes, and going through change control. I have an assembler program which invokes CLIST/REXX. I'll rename my assembler program

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:43:11 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: > > > >> I think I know that the answer is "no", but I'll ask anyway in

Re: How to fix blocksize of PDS

2017-10-19 Thread Edward Gould
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson > wrote: > > It's been forever since I last had to use a 'native' method because I've had > some form of the PDS command or its ISV descendent to do the fix. StarTool > (at least) has a 'share' option that allows data

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread Edward Gould
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:39 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > wrote: > > We have all syslogs scanned every morning and interesting messages extracted > and emailed. > > Kees. Kees, That is always an issue to me as (at least I) don’t know exactly what I am looking

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:43:11 -0500, John McKown wrote: >On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: > >> I think I know that the answer is "no", but I'll ask anyway in >> case it is possible. I have a NEW,CATLG data set that is allocated >> to tape via JCL. I have a REXX/CLIST

Re: Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. < rpin...@firsttennessee.com> wrote: > I think I know that the answer is "no", but I'll ask anyway in > case it is possible. I have a NEW,CATLG data set that is allocated > to tape via JCL. I have a REXX/CLIST that is running in the step >

Data set allocation from JCL and REXX/CLIST

2017-10-19 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I think I know that the answer is "no", but I'll ask anyway in case it is possible. I have a NEW,CATLG data set that is allocated to tape via JCL. I have a REXX/CLIST that is running in the step that has the tape data set. I would like to FREE that data set from the REXX/CLIST and then allocate

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 08:33:33 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > > >>> ​If you're talking about BPXBATCH in the "so poor" comment, I'd guess > that > >>> it was determined to be needed "late in

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 08:33:33 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >>> ​If you're talking about BPXBATCH in the "so poor" comment, I'd guess that >>> it was determined to be needed "late in the game". So something was written >>> quickly to get some basic functionality going. It then became enshrined in >>>

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:47:47 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >Thanks Kirk! > >Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up >something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it >does allow us to ship a batch job utility that can install a web server

Re: How to fix blocksize of PDS

2017-10-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 22:10:57 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >You remember correctly. In my first IT job as a programmer trainee, I came to >be the 'test proclib fixer'. Some yahoo would copy a member into >it--specifying incorrect blocksize I suppose--and alter the library's >blocksize. I

Re: z13s HMC remote console

2017-10-19 Thread Dana Mitchell
Skip, Both of these work for me with an identical level of IE11, so hopefully Marks suggestions work for you Dana On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 21:54:39 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >Neither OpSysMsgs nor 3270 Integrated Console works for me today under IE 11. >In both

Re: How to fix blocksize of PDS

2017-10-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It's been forever since I last had to use a 'native' method because I've had some form of the PDS command or its ISV descendent to do the fix. StarTool (at least) has a 'share' option that allows data set fixes even when a data set is allocated. Not needed often and potentially risky, but it

Re: Looking for a referral - unix, scripts, production, passwords

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Linda Hagedorn wrote: > Hi, > > I need a referral about remediating AIX scripting that was written with > passwords in clear text. These are maintenance scripts, batch jobs, etc. > > I have a inherited an AIX platform with scripts with

Looking for a referral - unix, scripts, production, passwords

2017-10-19 Thread Linda Hagedorn
Hi, I need a referral about remediating AIX scripting that was written with passwords in clear text. These are maintenance scripts, batch jobs, etc. I have a inherited an AIX platform with scripts with passwords in clear text. They are now hashed, but that is insufficient and they need to

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
On 19/10/2017 9:33 PM, John McKown wrote: Why don't IBM just provide a BPXSHELL program that does the right thing? It's a piece of cake to implement and AOPBATCH already does it, which is an IBM product. ​Ah, and so you answered your own question. You want a good IBM UNIX JCL invocation

Re: Transfer a large number of sequential file from mainframe to redhat linux V6.5

2017-10-19 Thread R.S.
What about NFS? More general: What is the work flow? Usually the transfer of many big files is not the goal itself. Maybe the files should be opened and read byt some application. NFS (of DRF/SMB) would save the time by simply avoiding the transfer before the applications start reading data.

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:21 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 19/10/2017 9:10 PM, John McKown wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:47 AM, David Crayford >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Kirk! >>> >>> Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
On 19/10/2017 9:10 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:47 AM, David Crayford wrote: Thanks Kirk! Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it does allow us

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:47 AM, David Crayford wrote: > Thanks Kirk! > > Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up > something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it > does allow us to ship a batch job utility that can

Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs

2017-10-19 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 18 Oct 2017 22:22:44 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) wrote: >Vignesh Sankaranarayanan wrote: >>From time to time, I get these questions in my head such as, >>what would happen if IBM were to try and implement a per-second >>billing sort of thing

Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > The dedicated console jockey is indeed a relic of the past. We depend on > alerts that responsible vendors issue in advance of key expiration. One > month should be sufficient for most products, but some

Re: Transfer a large number of sequential file from mainframe to redhat linux V6.5

2017-10-19 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:45 PM, David Mingee wrote: > Hello, another option would be to add the line MODE C before the put or > mput line in your FTP'S. This does compression only during the FTP. This > could speed up the FTP's. > ​This would require that the FTP

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
Mostly performance analysis products. We develop CICS, IMS and MVS tools in partnership with IBM as well as our own products. Our IBM product manuals are all on KC. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSAVHV_2.4.0/cexu-welcome.html

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread scott Ford
David, That's great, David,M what type product are you involved with ? Scott On Oct 19, 2017, 7:50 AM -0400, David Crayford , wrote: > Scott, > > Our customers do read manuals. In fact, they raise bug reports when they > find something that isn't correct. The manual is the

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
Scott, Our customers do read manuals. In fact, they raise bug reports when they find something that isn't correct. The manual is the most important piece of documentation you supply a customer so if your customers don't read manuals then that's a worry! On 19/10/2017 7:35 PM, scott Ford

Re: How compile a C program under z/os

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
Those aren't special characters, they're fundamental to the language. Only square brackets and the ^ operator are usually a problem for English code pages. NOLOCALE is your problem. Specify what  code page you want to use  in the LOCALE() compiler option. For example LOCALE(EN_US.IBM-1047)  or

How compile a C program under z/os

2017-10-19 Thread Hilario Garcia
Hello, I am new to using c / c ++ language. I try to compile the first program under Z / os 2.1. The compiler detects errors when using special characters (#, [,], _ ..) I have been trying to fix the problems through the compiler options: NOASCII CONVLIT NOLOCALE, but I have not managed to

Re: How to fix blocksize of PDS

2017-10-19 Thread Bill Ashton
Thanks, Skip; I knew I wasn't (totally) losing my mind...I will create a JCL member now called FIXBLKSZ and see if I can find it if I need it again! B On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > You remember correctly. In my first IT job as a programmer

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread scott Ford
David, Yes sir...I sometimes feel some customers forgot how to read...I know they don't read manuals, been there done that and have numerous t-shirts. Scott On Oct 19, 2017, 7:31 AM -0400, David Crayford , wrote: > I don't agree. WTORs are an anachronism but SYSLOG is one

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
I don't agree. WTORs are an anachronism but SYSLOG is one of the best things about z/OS systems. When you consider sophisticated modern tools like Splunk and the ELK stack the syslog looks better than ever. On 19/10/2017 7:37 AM, Steve Smith wrote: That's almost funny. Console output, and

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread scott Ford
Steve, Those are strong words. I came up through the ranks so I learned how to have "system programmer" eyes, looking for errors. Then went into Systems Programming and then Development. What I have noticed is more complaining about console messages flooding consoles, instead of people

Re: fopen DD

2017-10-19 Thread David Crayford
Thanks Kirk! Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it does allow us to ship a batch job utility that can install a web server from a PDS pax member using a script inspired by your Tomcat

Re: Console Messages (was Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs)

2017-10-19 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
We have all syslogs scanned every morning and interesting messages extracted and emailed. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Steve Smith > Sent: 19 October, 2017 1:38 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: