Re: IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
You can make it more efficient to split the weekfile, while building it, into separate files per subject: I/O, DB2, MQ, Monitors etc. You hardly need data from all area's. If you add data in the correct order, you can use DFsort to select data until Date > Dayn. Kees. > -Original

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Steely (or is it Mark)? But I don't know which volumes have the data specific to those dates; wouldn't CA-1 or OAM complain saying it doesn't have the full list of volumes associated with that tape file? - Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Scott, "An alternative may be to create/maintain an SMS-managed, short-lived (consider zEDC for efficiency) WEEKLY GDG (sorted or at least consider DD GDGORDER=FIFO parameter)." The weekly GDGs I have are already sorted in order, so was wondering if IFASMFDP efficiently cuts off

Re: SYSLOGD Automation

2018-12-04 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello David, I am unable to understand this config. Can you please help me to mke sense out of below line code. daemon.err;*.SYSLOGD*.*.none;*.INETD*.*.none /var/log/daemon -N DAEMON(+1) On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 3:08 PM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Tom, Apology for the typo the module name is ITVDIV On Tue 4 Dec, 2018, 9:26 PM Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:59:42 +0400, Jake Anderson wrote: > > >Ofcourse search ended up showing the error for return code 220 but the >

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 23:48:12 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > >I'm not aware that IEBGENER itself ever changed. You either kept the classic >version or played the alias game. The app we shot in the foot counted on >IEBGENER default behavior by hardcoding I/P block size later on for the same

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
In the beginning, IEBGENER did not itself change. IBM recommended replacing it with a copy of ICEGENER aliased to IEBGENER so that SDB would be in effect without anyone having to change JCL. That's what we did but accidentally messed up the wacko application that was depending totally on the

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 21:09:37 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >When my home shop of that long ago the day 'converted' to SDB, we stumbled on >a (screwball) app that routinely created a file using--depending >on!--IEBGENER's practice of duplicating input DCB attributes to output, >complete with

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
I am adding this to code that is already using the DSCB chain for all of the volumes for a dataset. Getting information from these to allocate a "LIKE" dataset is the problem - there seem more than a few complexities and pitfalls. I am really just looking for an example of something that

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
LISTDSI would be my first choice. It does not require ISPF or any other 'product'. However, it is a TSO/E function, so you have to run under IKJEFTxx. You can retrieve pretty much any attribute of an existing DASD-resident data set and use the info to create a similar file. . . J.O.Skip

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
When my home shop of that long ago the day 'converted' to SDB, we stumbled on a (screwball) app that routinely created a file using--depending on!--IEBGENER's practice of duplicating input DCB attributes to output, complete with the boiler plate warning to that effect. The real mischief was

Re: IND$FILE -- where did the name come from?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 19:20:07 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I believe that he's using a different meaning of client, e.g., customer. > >IND$FILE, SFTP and WSA are all easier to use for people who are not at home >with the Eunix utilities. > My favorite approach has been NFS. It puts my z/OS data

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Cieri, Anthony
Is Rexx suitable. Perhaps LISTDSI can help -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 2:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()"

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
No; you get the extents as allocated, not as requested. Then there's the EAV issue. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Mike Shaw
On 12/4/2018 12:42 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: Are there examples in CBT of code that do similar analysis of DASD datasets? Even something that does a good job at deducing SPACE=(unit,(pri,sec)) is not as simple as one might think. For standalone code, a RDJFCB will get you a list of the

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Chris Hoelscher
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Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. For my purposes, I can't run under ISPF or require a licensed product. I took a brief at look at the CBT VTOC command, but it just seems to print a VTOC without much attention to the issues surrounding how to extract a "LIKE()" allocation. On Tue, Dec 4, 2018

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:41:43 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >Are there examples in CBT of code that do similar analysis of DASD >datasets? Even something that does a good job at deducing >SPACE=(unit,(pri,sec)) is not as simple as one might think. > AVGREC adds to the chaos. If the initial allocation

Re: [EXTERNAL] Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
Kirk - here is a routine from PDSEGEN that will do some of what you want Do_Model: Expose pdsedsn zdsngen null zcmd 'dsinfo dataset('pdsedsn')' if words(zcmd) = 2 then mdsn = word(zcmd,2) else mdsn = pdsedsn newgen = zdsngen munit = left(zdsspc,1) dsnt =

Re: IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Steely.Mark
I think you can specify the volsers you just want to read -- VOL=SER=(UC4622,UI0455). This may cause an error but you will have the data needed . Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Kirk, File 112 ... the VTOC Command. Regards, David On 2018-12-04 12:41, Kirk Wolf wrote: > I need to be able to reverse engineer the allocation of cataloged DSORG=PS > data sets by looking at the DSCBs and catalog. > > To be specific, I would like to generate BPXWDYN allocation keywords for

Re: Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Don't suppose you have Innovation Data Processing's FDREPORT? If you did, you could set up a job to select data sets based on your requirements, and tell FDREPORT to generate JCL or ALLOCATE statements, using the DCB and space allocation information that FDREPORT gathers. -Original

Examples of roll your own "LIKE()" for data sets?

2018-12-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
I need to be able to reverse engineer the allocation of cataloged DSORG=PS data sets by looking at the DSCBs and catalog. To be specific, I would like to generate BPXWDYN allocation keywords for an existing cataloged DSORG=PS data set to that I can use allocate a new data set LIKE() it on another

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Another IBM tape not for z/OS

2018-12-04 Thread Wheeler, Simon
Hi, I'd have to agree. Management of dataset and volume backups and dumps is tricky without HSM taking care of it by writing to tape, either real or virtual, quickly becoming a management overhead - though it did say "almost all". thanks,   Simon Wheeler -Original Message- From:

Re: IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
In my opinion, you can not do much using IFASMFDP. Fairly stable (can you say no real enhancement potential). You could look at using LOGSTREAM for SMF Data (which I am told is nicer) - Logstream provides a possibility of better search criteria. >From my experience, when you have HUGE SMF files

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:59:42 +0400, Jake Anderson wrote: >Ofcourse search ended up showing the error for return code 220 but the >failing module was different in IBM manual in my case it was ITODIV from >sys1.lpalib. I've never heard of that module. I don't believe it is an IBM module. You might

Re: IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Scott Barry
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 16:45:26 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: >Hello! > >Say there's a file called SMF.WEEKLY and it is a huge, multi-volume file, and >is an aggregate of all SMF.DAILY files (data is sequential). >If I want to pick out data from just the first day of the week from

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Liz, Ofcourse search ended up showing the error for return code 220 but the failing module was different in IBM manual in my case it was ITODIV from sys1.lpalib. I was curious about the diagnostic code 231. Finally figured out the vsam files were not copied properly and this caused this error

IFASMFDP

2018-12-04 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hello! Say there's a file called SMF.WEEKLY and it is a huge, multi-volume file, and is an aggregate of all SMF.DAILY files (data is sequential). If I want to pick out data from just the first day of the week from SMF.WEEKLY, using IFASMFDP, apart from specifying DATE(yyddd,yyddd), is there a

Re: Another IBM tape not for z/OS

2018-12-04 Thread Rugen, Len
Years of rules enforced by tape management systems, extensive GDG use and "If you don't use catalog control, you get what you deserve" made this possible. I don't remember the SMS rules, but I'm pretty sure they required SL and catalog control. First passes didn't get all of them, but tape

TS77xx MI cert help

2018-12-04 Thread Lund James E
(Let me know if there is a better listserv to send this to...) Howdy, I'm trying to activate forced secure connection to the management interface of our TS77xx VTLs for managed services access we're adding. The shipped cert of CN:www.ibm.com loads as "CA root not trusted". I know I can add a

Re: Another IBM tape not for z/OS

2018-12-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 12/02/2018 07:55 PM, Rugen, Len wrote: > Batch tape should be dead, even if batch JCL still looks like tape is used. > One of my last SMS projects was to manage tape, redirecting almost all to SMS > disk. > > > Before employing any technique to convert all tape data sets to DASD, one

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
There is the IBM MVS Messages and Codes manual and the VSAM Demystified REDBOOK that could assist with this issue. Did you do any searches on the message? Did you follow the suggestion in IEC251I to review IEC161I message as well. In the job's output, did you look for other messages that

Re: SYSLOGD Automation

2018-12-04 Thread Jousma, David
Here is what we code. You have to add offload info for every SYSLOGD stream you are writing or it wont offload it. ArchiveTimeOfDay 00:01 BeginArchiveParms DSNPrefix TEMPG.PDP.SYSLOGD. Unit SYSDA

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread saurabh khandelwal
nmo no .. man .. i really dont know.. if u can tell me its ur wish.. cant force u On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:55 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > You must be knowing already right ... > > > Or else feeling restless to know ? > > On Tue 4 Dec, 2018, 12:44 PM saurabh khandelwal < >

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread Jake Anderson
Apology.. it was supposed to be offline response .. Please ignore it On Tue 4 Dec, 2018, 12:55 PM Jake Anderson You must be knowing already right ... > > > Or else feeling restless to know ? > > On Tue 4 Dec, 2018, 12:44 PM saurabh khandelwal < > sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: > >>

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread Jake Anderson
You must be knowing already right ... Or else feeling restless to know ? On Tue 4 Dec, 2018, 12:44 PM saurabh khandelwal < sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: > where r u these days ... > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:51 AM Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I am getting IEC251I

Re: IEC251I error

2018-12-04 Thread saurabh khandelwal
where r u these days ... On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:51 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi > > I am getting IEC251I 220-231,JOBNAME,JOBNAME > > Can someone help me to point with the manual for the above error ? > > Jake > > -- > For