Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Brian Westerman
Also there is MXI (option ENQ). Also on the CBT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Max possible velocity?

2020-10-14 Thread Brian Westerman
You should have a separate workload for the BPX... stuff (that will get FTP running better). The transfers (unless they are huge) should have a pretty good velocity, and there should be two periods. The first can be pretty high (I think 70 for your settings now for BPX processes) and the

Re: Positive feedback, z/OSMF - Workflows

2020-10-14 Thread Brian Westerman
If you decide not to run it after the automatic installation, just add the following two lines to your ISUPRMxx member of parmlib: AUTOSTART(CONNECT) AUTOSTART_GROUP(NONE) Just in case, the entire

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Originally it was the Reader/Interpreter. In MVS it is JES2 and JES3. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Pew, Curtis G [curtis@austin.utexas.edu] Sent:

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I found generated DD * and implied /* to be great conveniences. But I wish that they had chosen a better default for SPACE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Oct 14, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I wish JCL had never provided >//SYSIN DD * Generated Statement > Isn’t it JES2 that does that? -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Make that "provided /* to terminate DD *" -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Seymour J Metz [sme...@gmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:57 PM To:

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:57:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >No. IBM provided DD * to terminate DD *, back when there was a street drug >called Primary Control Program. Later IBM made /* optional for DD * in MFT and >MVT, but by then people were used to providing it and in some cases didn't

Re: BCPII services

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
It gets processed as an attachment because it *IS* a MIME attachment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Edward Finnell

Re: SV: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
IBM couldn't due that, because they used the same sigil for symbolic parameters and temporary dataset names. R14, as I recall. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
No. IBM provided DD * to terminate DD *, back when there was a street drug called Primary Control Program. Later IBM made /* optional for DD * in MFT and MVT, but by then people were used to providing it and in some cases didn't realize that it hadn't been needed for decades. -- Shmuel

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
IBM demurred for years allowing system symbols to be used in batch JCL. There were several spirited discussions at SHARE as to how they should work. Some possibilities: -- Substitute values at submit time -- Substitute values at conversion time -- Substitute values at execution time These

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Steve Smith
This is a nice illustration of some general rule that probably deserves a psychological study. First, there was JCL. Then, SYSIN data, which (naturally) was terminated by the next JCL card (which always start with //). Then, some wanted a way to put JCL in SYSIN data. So, DD DATA was invented.

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am guessing it is due to where the job gets converted. If the symbol being used is different on different LPARs in a PEX, then you could get different results. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lars Höglund Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020

Re: SV: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:50:04 +, Lars Höglund wrote: > >Do You the reason why the default for SYSSYM is DISALLOW? > Obsession with compatibility. It's possible that someone, somewhere, has a "dusty old deck" containing a string matching the name of a system symbol which would break with

Re: BCPII services

2020-10-14 Thread Bonnie C Barthel
Trying it thanks Bonnie Barthel Senior IT Specialist GTS, Delivery & Integrated Operations 720.396.6755 Office 719.649.7888 Mobile bonnie.bart...@us.ibm.com IBM IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 10/14/2020 12:21:15 PM: > From: Sri h Kolusu > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date:

SV: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Lars Höglund
Hi Do You the reason why the default for SYSSYM is DISALLOW? //Lasse -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List För Lizette Koehler Skickat: den 14 oktober 2020 20:38 Till: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID I think System Symbols are only

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:15:07 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >> (I would have used IEBGENER. "New Hammer" phenomenon.) > > Old habit :) > And you couldn't resist doing it twice! What does the "$$" after the "/*" do? > >It is terminating the >//SORTIN DD DATA,DLM=$$ >Since I am building the

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Edward Finnell
Terminates input processing matching the DLM=$$ What does the "$$" after the "/*" do? -Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2020 2:06 pm Subject: Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID On Wed,

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> (I would have used IEBGENER. "New Hammer" phenomenon.) Old habit :) >>> What does the "$$" after the "/*" do? It is terminating the >//SORTIN DD DATA,DLM=$$ Since I am building the JCL in-line, I had to use the DLM Thanks, Kolusu

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:01:38 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >> I've used an IKJEFT TSO ISPF step or SDSF screen scraping to extract >> a job's own JobID. Is there a simpler way? > >How about using system symbols and ? Something like >this? > Thanks. I had been looking at some old JCL, perhaps

Re: BCPII services

2020-10-14 Thread Edward Finnell
Think Sri has the right solution. Your mailer is trying to insert a nice pretty graphic and gets processed asan attachment. Another option is use the web interface at listserv.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html to view and respondto postings. THANKS to everyone for your advice and links.  I've

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think System Symbols are only available when the JES2 Class says SYSSYM=ALLOW Otherwise I think they are not available to a batch job. They are probably available to an STC Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Wednesday,

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: BCPII services

2020-10-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Bonnie - While I was at IBM I always had to use the Reply in Internet format from Notes to send to the list Jerry Whitteridge jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop Albertsons Companies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf

Re: BCPII services

2020-10-14 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> I don't see any attachment of any kind ... how is it I should > 'reply' to a post? Bonnie, Use the option "Reply with Internet-style History" instead of plain reply and you won't have that error. Thanks, Kolusu -- For

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Charles Mills
A corollary is that you have to use the VSAM interface to submit the job; you can't use QSAM. You have to use an ACB and RPL, not a DCB. A footnote is that when FTP submits a job using SITE FILETYPE=JES it displays 125 When JOBn is done, will retrieve its output Charles

BCPII services

2020-10-14 Thread Bonnie Barthel
I've tried to no avail to say THANKS to everyone for your advice and links. I've decided to go ahead and implement. Whenever I tried to reply (and I tried several times with different content) my email was returned saying: "Your posting to the IBM-MAIN list has been rejected because it

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Stephen Donaldson
Hi, If you write to the INTRDR with an ACB/RPL and then do an ENDREQ on the RPL after the last JCL record, then you should find the JOBID in RPLRBAR of the RPL.   This would make it available after the job has been submitted, as I believe the ENDREQ is like an /*EOF and would cut the

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> I've used an IKJEFT TSO ISPF step or SDSF screen scraping to extract > a job's own JobID. Is there a simpler way? Gil, How about using system symbols and ? Something like this? //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SORTOUT DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR) //SYSINDD * OPTION COPY

Re: INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Refer to "Assembler Services Guide" "Obtaining a job identifier". "Issue an ENDREQ macro after writing a complete job to the internal reader. The job identifier is returned in the RPLRBAR field of the request parameter list (RPL)." On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:37:01 -0500 Paul Gilmartin

INTRDR and submitted JobID

2020-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I see that the UNIX SUBMIT command shows the JobID of the submitted job. What interface makes this available. I suspect it's in JES or Assembler Services, but I don't know how to find it. At what point in processing is the submitted JobID available?: o INTRDR OPEN? o INTRDR CLOSE? o somewhere

Re: Max possible velocity?

2020-10-14 Thread Martin Packer
I’ve seen plenty of things running above 50 - in lots of customers worldwide. Typically Db2 Engine service class, particularly where I/O Priority Queuing is enabled. In that latter case to would be VERY disappointing to see attainment as low as 50% - as it would probably be caused by Delay for

Re: Positive feedback, z/OSMF - Workflows

2020-10-14 Thread Pesce, Andy
Thanks everyone for responding. That makes me feel a lot better. I don’t mind it being automatically installed.I just didn’t want to have to get it configured and running “to” install z/OS 2.4.I was misinformed ! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Roberto Halais
Joe: Thank you for the info. Just one detail. I checked and it's FILE980 in CBT for the TASID fix. On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:04 AM Joe Monk wrote: > You can acquire TASID here: > > https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/572789 > > There is a ZAP for it in CBT 981 to fix the initiator display

Re: Max possible velocity?

2020-10-14 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: HCL Internal The max possible velocity is (theoretically) 100. I.E. there are zero delays in the sample. The only thing I have ever seen that realistically exceeded 50 was a CICS address space running in server mode (as opposed to transaction mode). Check your RMF III reports

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Joe Monk
You can acquire TASID here: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/572789 There is a ZAP for it in CBT 981 to fix the initiator display on z/os 2.2 and 2.3 Joe On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:22 AM Roberto Halais wrote: > There is a utility called TASID which can give you what you want. > I don't

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Roberto Halais
There is a utility called TASID which can give you what you want. I don't know if it's in CBT. We use it. Select one of the following options: Version 5.21 1 - Address space list5 - Miscellaneous displays 2 - System ENQ contention 6 - Current dataset

ACF2 SMF fields

2020-10-14 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Hi all, I need to run some reports for a client, based on ACF2 SMF records and would like your advice.All my experience is with RACF and I already have some RACF reports based on SMF 80 that I could adapt to ACF2. The problem is that I'm having some difficulties to find the equivalence of RACF

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Rob Scott
Jake SDSF for z/OS 2.4 has the "ENQD" command Example : ENQD SYS1.PARMLIB There is also the "PARM" and "PROC" displays to show the logical PARMLIB datasets and the JES2 PROCLIBs Note that you can use the "SRCH" command to search for a member name pattern within these displays. Rob Scott

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Max possible velocity?

2020-10-14 Thread kekronbekron
Since you mentioned Adabas, I believe throwing some zIIP at it (& licensing this feature from Adabas's vendor) will help reduce CP usage. In addition to WLM, I would also look at LPAR Design Tool to check out VH/M/L spread (tuning the weights and engines per LPAR). Could be wrong... but I think

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jake, Please look at DAF on File 94. (There might be a newer (pre-built) version on File 135.) Regards, David On 2020-10-14 02:29, Jake Anderson wrote: Hello Are there any freeware utility in CBTTAPE to check if a specific dataset is being used in parmlibs or proclib or by any batch ?

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Max possible velocity?

2020-10-14 Thread Martin Packer
Hello Shivang! Either LPAR busy or - my preferred metric and embedded in my regular graphing - how much CPU the service class is taking. Certainly the general point of considering what you’re achieving in velocity terms, why, and how it varies under increasing load is a good one. I would also

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, ENQ will usually tell you if a dataset is currently allocated, bt notnwhether a member was allocated earlier in the IPL and then freed.u -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:29:21 +0400 Jake Anderson wrote: :>Are there any freeware utility in CBTTAPE to check if a specific dataset is :>being used in parmlibs or proclib or by any batch ? Your question is not super clear - what does "used" or "any batch" mean? Obviously you can search thru all

Re: Max possible velocity?

2020-10-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
Thank you Brian, A long time ago, on a machine long gone, when we last had capacity problems, one of the issues was velocities set higher than the machine could attain, resulting in PI such that WLM pretty much gave up. At that time, I think on the list here, I was helped to set more

Cbttape - dataset being used

2020-10-14 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello Are there any freeware utility in CBTTAPE to check if a specific dataset is being used in parmlibs or proclib or by any batch ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to