LOL! I never thought of that one. But I definitely would have tried it, if I
had.
Back in my youth, I mean, of course :).
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri
h Kolusu
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: Having some challenges with a SORT Utility
Cameron,
Here is a simple version of DFSORT which will produce
Cameron,
Here is a simple version of DFSORT which will produce the results you are
looking for
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.LISTDSD.output
//SORTOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
OPTION COPY
*** Get listdsd dataset name using parse ***
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 18:03, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> I'm just guessing here, but you may need to employ something like JES328X
> which disappeared about 4 years ago, or NPF or INFOPRINT or a third party
> VTAM print facility. I think MacKinney has a cheap one.
There are several
> Hopefully someone can point me in a correct direction.
> I can do this in a different manner, but I am stubborn.
>
> I have crafted a little sort utility to read a file and then to grab
> data from a couple of records and include the data with subsequent
records.
Cameron,
Looks like you
Massimo,
Thank you,
I modified the control statements to allow up to 500 records in a group.
And now things seem to be perfect.
I had tried setting the 500 value on the last group, thinking “I have less than
five hundred of these”, rather than at the higher level to indicate there could
be five
Cameron,
sorry for not fully understanding. For me it's not so simple to "see your
dataset".
I'm wondering why you specified the RECORDS= on WHEN=GROUP.
If I well understand the manual:
"
If RECORDS is specified with BEGIN or KEYBEGIN, up to n records starting
with the begin
record belong to a
Alex,
I'm just guessing here, but you may need to employ something like JES328X which
disappeared about 4 years ago, or NPF or INFOPRINT or a third party VTAM print
facility. I think MacKinney has a cheap one.
Rex
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Hello folks,
Hopefully someone can point me in a correct direction.
I can do this in a different manner, but I am stubborn.
I have crafted a little sort utility to read a file and then to grab data from
a couple of records and include the data with subsequent records.
So, I have a record
OS/390 era software didn't support network printing without extra-cost
products (so you can't direct SYSOUT=A to T006). If you have CICS or IMS
then you can easily define the printer and send a test message, otherwise
you would need to write an SNA application using the VTAM macros. The
printer
agree !
I really thought JES2 Email Delivery was gonna be straight forward, easy
to setup, I"m not sure why z/osmf needed to be the vehicle for email
delivery, I agree, why more overhead, why Java?
I wanted to use the notification facility on z/osmf with the workflows,
but apparently this
You're correct, that you need to code that card and use JESEDS, and that was my
point. None of that was really necessary, which is why we developed
SyzMail/z. Actually we developed it several years before IBM, and I still
wonder why IBM came up with such a convoluted way to send email when
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-- Original Message --
From "Carmen Vitullo"
To IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Date 1/19/2022 3:07:12 PM
Subject Re: What not to do on a z/OS system...
yup, Print, burst, trim, console, microfiche, all
yup, Print, burst, trim, console, microfiche, all shifts :) we did it
all indeed
Carmen
On 1/19/2022 2:04 PM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
Carmen?
Print operator? Back in the 70s, we did it all!
Mitch
-Original Message-
From: Carmen Vitullo
To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Wed,
Carmen?
Print operator? Back in the 70s, we did it all!
Mitch
-Original Message-
From: Carmen Vitullo
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Wed, Jan 19, 2022 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: What not to do on a z/OS system...
NO - fun was being a print operator and throwing an empty box of
NO - fun was being a print operator and throwing an empty box of
stock paper at someone who thought it was a full box
what not to do when you're an operator working with Datagraphix
microfiche, save the chemical change for the next shift, it always comes
back to bite you
Carmen
On
I've seen some strange tape movement myself, I'd say to myself, WTH? why
is that tape rewinding and re reading , then came the day's of 3480's
and all that visibility went away
On 1/19/2022 1:39 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
I've heard of operators cancelling jobs that were running correctly
There are several IBM and 3rd party prining applications that can process
SYSOUT datasets, e.g., PSF.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Alexander Huemer
...the most fun was when you had a punch card system where a co-worker was
sorting a few columns of approximately 25K cards and asked you to help carry a
stack. When they weren't looking, you pick up a stack of garbage cards instead,
take a few steps and "accidentally" drop the stack. So much
yup, mostly yellow, blue and grey IIRC
Carmen
On 1/19/2022 1:35 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
File protection ring? I've seen those in multiple colors. Easy to pull apart,
until the random tough one popped up.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
I've heard of operators cancelling jobs that were running correctly because
they assumed that tapes moving back and forth always meant a bad spot.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
File protection ring? I've seen those in multiple colors. Easy to pull apart,
until the random tough one popped up.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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On Jan 19, 2022, at 12:27 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
>
> I recall my lead operator doing something similar on a data check on a tape,
> you know when you see the tape re-read the same block over and over, he hit
> stop on the processor, it was a 370/158, then accessed the control unit for
>
Heh, reminds me when we were doing a data center tour for the IBM Senior Sales
Rep. When exiting he pushed the recessed EPO switch to unlock the door and of
course things got dark and quiet. Yes, we did put a clear plastic liftable
cover over them at all doors. Can’t make this stuff up :)
The plastic cover doesn't deter everyone though! In the past few years
I've been told of 2 cases where someone (not me) thought it was the
button to open the automatic exit door. I believe that's the reason at
one of those sites we have to sign extra papers before entering, one
which
Also used in datacenter quoits!
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 1:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: What not to do on a z/OS system...
yellow ring frizbes :)
On 1/19/2022 12:26
yellow ring frizbes :)
On 1/19/2022 12:26 PM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:
Same story, but a Yellow write ring tossed with force (think dodge ball). Same
result.
Every time I notice a Plexiglas cover over the EPO button, I smile.
Bob
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe
not a zseries, around the same decade, in the 80's we had a 30xx
processor that went into a wait state IIRC, I was an operator and we
were rerunning an inventory update process for a large retailer, I
started to hit stop/unload all the inventory files that were mounted on
the drives,
Same story, but a Yellow write ring tossed with force (think dodge ball). Same
result.
Every time I notice a Plexiglas cover over the EPO button, I smile.
Bob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022
Following up on this.
I have added a LU1 MODEENT definition to ISTINCLM according to [1] and
assigned that to the respective LU, in my case that is T006.
When I power the printer on, I get 'SLU ENABLED' in `d net,id=T006'.
Apparently VTAM knows the printer is there.
The documentation I've
At my first job (1975) one of the programmers was chatting to the operators and
then lent against that red button on the wall. Shutdown the entire machine room
of course.
Lennie
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Mike Shaw
Sent: 19 January 2022 16:44
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:25:13 -0800, Ed Jaffe
wrote:
>I remember people asking this question years ago when "shamplexes" were
>all the rage. A sysplex is supposed to be comprised of equal systems --
>at least as envisaged.
>
>If the systems really are different and are connected into a sysplex
We once had a data check we could not get past on a 3420 tape. This was
around 1980, MVS/SE 1 or thereabouts. The lead sysprog hit stop on the tape
drive, pulled the leading tape portion out of the vacuum column, rubbed it
gently back and forth between his finger and thumb, and slowly released the
Back in the old days the R/W heads lifted up when you unloaded a tape and
moved down when you mounted a new reel. One day an interlock didn't interlock
and the R/W head mashed the hand of an operator. The damage wasn't permanent,
but everybody was more cautious after that.
--
Shmuel (Seymour
A very long time ago, (mid seventies I think) I was loading a tape to a tape
drive.
A button on my jean jacket trapped the edge of my jacket sleeve inside the tape
drive when as the glass closed.
I stood patiently and waited for the tape processing to complete so the tape
could unload.
After
well, on that same line
after first shift was gone and management went home for the day the ash
trays and cigarettes came out on the computer room floor, start the
production schedule, pre mount all the input tapes needed, and play
hearts for an hour
Carmen
On 1/19/2022 9:04 AM, Matt
The operators at a company I used to work for would bring in beer on Saturday
nights and put then under the Lieberts so they would be cold when they drank
them after their shift.
Matt Hogstrom
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Perfer et obdura: dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
Be patient and endure: some day,
Hooray! Now we've got the kind of thread that is the life blood of ibm-main :-)
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022, at 7:21 AM, John McKown wrote:
> I know of one MVT operator who trapped his girlfriend against a 3725
> communication controller and dropped a university's entire network.
> Multiple sites.
>
>
I know of one MVT operator who trapped his girlfriend against a 3725
communication controller and dropped a university's entire network.
Multiple sites.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 16:41 Robert Prins wrote:
> OK, it's not the silly season, but have you ever used your employers
> equipment to do
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