Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Tom Brennan
It's not meant to be disrespectful, and the only joke is the elves. The rest is reality as I see it. Whether that's good or bad I guess depends on your point of view. On 8/30/2022 10:19 PM, kekronbekron wrote: Although this is a joke... some respect for Sri please. Remember that he doesn't

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread kekronbekron
Although this is a joke... some respect for Sri please. Remember that he doesn't need to share anything. We'll be the ones looking dumb with capable tools & not knowing how to properly use them. - KB --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, August 31st, 2022 at 10:08 AM, Tom Brennan

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Tom Brennan
But with DFSORT I don't need to know the syntax at all. I can post a note here describing what I'm trying to do along with some data samples, and like the elves who make shoes, complete JCL and SYSIN will magically appear the next morning. On 8/30/2022 5:02 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: The

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:38:19 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: > >If we're looking at alternatives, there's also Java. I can never >understand what the DFSORT solutions are doing from reading the control >cards, ... > +1 The DFSORT command syntax is dreadful -- too positional. It's hard to read

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 30/08/2022 10:46 pm, Bob Bridges wrote: I usually keep my bigoted mouth shut in threads like this, but guys, why DFSORT? That's great for the simple stuff, but REXX is so much easier and you don't have to sweat over more and more and yet more inventive solutions. If we're looking at

Re: IDC3009I & IDC1566I with a weird dsn

2022-08-30 Thread Joe Monk
Look at the messages: IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFF-5 IDC1566I ** .|. ...8..U...2. NOT LISTED Where is the core trash in 1566 coming from? 3009 return code 50 is VVDS unavailable. Joe On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:27 PM Paul

Re: IDC3009I & IDC1566I with a weird dsn

2022-08-30 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential LISTCAT ENT(entryname) ALL Select the component (cluster index) and volume (xx) Use IDCAMS in batch: //STEP EXEC IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD * //DD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=xx //SYSIN DD * DEL componentname VVR FILE(DD1) /* HTH, -Original

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:55:19 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >... (Does DFSORT support regular expressions?) ... > Yes. I found it in the Ref. With several pages specifying regular expression syntax which would better be replaced by a citation of another document. -- gil

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 17:21:22 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: > >≫ Little argument other than the economic balance between silicon and carbon, >counting learning in the latter. How much data? > >Take a simple of ca e less than or equal to 5 Million records. You can run a >test and see for your self

Re: IDC3009I & IDC1566I with a weird dsn

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 11:35:55 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: >Might be this: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/OA57619 > >Users of CSI and LISTCAT Level may receive inconsistent errors >on entries that have no problem otherwise due to uninitialized >workarea data. > The APAR says: Local fix

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Sri h Kolusu
≫ Little argument other than the economic balance between silicon and carbon, counting learning in the latter. How much data? Paul, Take a simple of case less than or equal to 5 Million records. You can run a test and see for your self as to how much it takes to do the same using REXX vs

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 16:28:24 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>> I usually keep my bigoted mouth shut in threads like this, but guys, why >>> DFSORT? That's great for the simple stuff, but REXX is so much easier and >>> you don't have to sweat over more and more and yet more inventive solutions. >

Re: IDC3009I & IDC1566I with a weird dsn

2022-08-30 Thread Joe Monk
Might be this: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/OA57619 Users of CSI and LISTCAT Level may receive inconsistent errors on entries that have no problem otherwise due to uninitialized workarea data. Joe On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 9:04 AM Jack Zukt wrote: > Hi all, > > Another situation that

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> I usually keep my bigoted mouth shut in threads like this, but guys, why >> DFSORT? That's great for the simple stuff, but REXX is so much easier and >> you don't have to sweat over more and more and yet more inventive solutions. Bob, Rexx is a handy tool, but it performs poorly against

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Michael Babcock
Don’t have an answer, just a question. Do you need to allow for the quantity to go up? Say additional inventory was added and went from say, 20 to 40, which may result in a negative number during subtraction? On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 7:47 AM Bob Bridges wrote: > I usually keep my bigoted mouth

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Mario, Max has the right idea but it is a overkill with 2 passes of data. Here is a simpler version with just 1 pass. Since the data is NOT sorted, I added a SORT statement. I assumed that the product has a length of 5 bytes and starts in position 1. I also added lot of comments so that it

Does IBM zip docs to order?!

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I just downloaded the 800 MB 2.5 doc collection from the link on . unzip -v tells me: Length MethodSize CmprDateTime CRC-32 Name -- --- -- -

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
can't make it much clearer ! Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:54 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: To be clear, the syntax is Operator SEND 'text',U=xx,LOGON TSO SEND 'text' U(xx) LOGON Note the equal sign for the operator syntax versus the parentheses for the TSO syntax. In either case, REXX code

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
To be clear, the syntax is Operator SEND 'text',U=xx,LOGON TSO SEND 'text' U(xx) LOGON Note the equal sign for the operator syntax versus the parentheses for the TSO syntax. In either case, REXX code has to double the apostrophes or frame them in quotes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Crap, can I say that, I forgot this is being issued from SDSF via REXX. never-mind :( Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:45 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: The TSO HELP is for TSO commands, not for MVS operator commands. The TSO SEND and the operator SEND do not have the same syntax, and it is the operator

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Thanks; now it makes sense. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Carmen Vitullo [petevi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 10:31 AM To:

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
The TSO HELP is for TSO commands, not for MVS operator commands. The TSO SEND and the operator SEND do not have the same syntax, and it is the operator SEND that requires the comma. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Sorry I was wrong about the COMMA, it is a space SEND 'TEXT' USER(XXX) LOGON or SAVE all spaces Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:31 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I understand doubling the apostrophe's. What I don't understand is passing what looks like a TSO command to ISFSLASH. In the SEND operator

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
so I was told the message text and specifying the user() requires a comma not a blank like I was led to believe in the TSO HELP SEND syntax Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:31 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I understand doubling the apostrophe's. What I don't understand is passing what looks like a TSO

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I think in my case it was, I was notified that my test message when out to the entire TSO community :( all 10 of them :) On 8/30/2022 9:27 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I saw the message that it worked, but I don't understand why "user(xx)" wasn't treated as a comment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I understand doubling the apostrophe's. What I don't understand is passing what looks like a TSO command to ISFSLASH. In the SEND operator command the space after the quoted text would be taken as the end of the operand, so why wasn't user(xx) treated as a comment? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I saw the message that it worked, but I don't understand why "user(xx)" wasn't treated as a comment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Carmen Vitullo

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I think you are correct, the ISFSLASH takes the input as an MVS operator command, I tested this and it worked sending a message to my ID Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:16 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I'm confused. Doesn't ISFSLASH take an MVS operator command rather than a TSO command? In an MVS

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Using either isfexec the issue was that it was processing the single quotes and removing them - had to double up on them to get them to work. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation.

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm confused. Doesn't ISFSLASH take an MVS operator command rather than a TSO command? In an MVS commands, space separates operands from comments, unlike TSO commands. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread rpinion865
I "think" ADCD is used for ISV's. In addition, zPDT uses the ADCD DASD images. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 10:07 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > okay, thanks for the clarification > > Carmen > > On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM,

Re: SDSF ISFEXEC issue - help (please)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
The command texct that he needs is "SEND 'test message',Save"; the comma is part of the SEND command. Wouldn't "/SEND 'test message';Save" either include a semicolon as part of the command text or treat the text as two separate commands, neither of which is correct? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
okay, thanks for the clarification Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM, rpinion865 wrote: IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's IBM's idea of a z/OS system. Sent with Proton Mail secure

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
there are so many pieces, parts that are supported by different teams? as I stated my first case open with IBM on the zosmf issue I was having was related to JES2EDS, it took almost a year for them to figure out my mail server SMTP did not require authentication , so a special jar file was

Re: How to use LISTDSI from Rexx under Unix shell?

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
That sounds like yet another reason for TSO/E to steal GLOBALV from CMS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353

IDC3009I & IDC1566I with a weird dsn

2022-08-30 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi all, Another situation that come up. Is anyone of you familiar with these messages: IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFF-5 IDC1566I ** .|. ...8..U...2. NOT LISTED As far as I can see, there is not one dataset with such a name on any

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread rpinion865
IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's IBM's idea of a z/OS system. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 9:57 AM,

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
the  ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS and

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Mike Shaw
It seems to me that z/OSMF is being developed one piece at a time, slowly, instead of starting with a well-thought out and relatively complet design ahead of time. Portions are being developed and added, one at a time, as the need for those portions of the product is discovered. It's like we are

z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Colin Paice
I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for installing software on midrange machines. I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It took over 6 hours to download the

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 25 Aug 2022 to 26 Aug 2022 (#2022-235)

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I was thinking more of the influence that UoW had than of work done directly by staff or students. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Phil Smith III

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
REXX is certain ly easy, but if the OP has large volumes of data then performance may be an isswue. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, build JCL and submit JCL. my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Keith Gooding
Just curious - I thought that only Serverpac required the use of z/OSMF and CBPDOs are installed using traditional methods. Are there now products which have to be installed using z/OSMF ? Is it now possible to install a CNPDO using z/OSMF. For the record my experience of z/OSMF for Serverpac

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Bob Bridges
I usually keep my bigoted mouth shut in threads like this, but guys, why DFSORT? That's great for the simple stuff, but REXX is so much easier and you don't have to sweat over more and more and yet more inventive solutions. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is a

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to install or maintain a product that required another product as finicky as z/osmf at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json file version was not compatible WTH, opening a case with IBM

Re: Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Mario, I first tried with WHEN=GROUP but with no success. After that I hopefully succeeded with a JOIN. The main idea is to extract keys from file and number those simply by sequential number. So the STAMPA "view" at ST010 should show something like this: SUGAR100 01 SUGAR97

Calculate deltas using DFSORT

2022-08-30 Thread Mario Bezzi
Hello list, say I have a file with goods, dates, and available quantities, not necessarily sorted. I want to sort it and calculate daily deltas. For example using the following input : Product,Date,Availability Sugar,2022/08/01,100 Sugar,2022/08/02,97 Sugar,2022/08/03,93 I need to get to