Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

On 11/17/2022 6:20 AM, Gabriel Tully wrote: I recently came across this blog about tnz. https://medium.com/theropod/3270-is-terminal-84d0af522cfd I never heard of this emulator until I read your post. I decided to try it using python 3.10 on Windows 11. It seemed to work well with

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

What? RMF can export to prometheus? Do you mean zDG, with its own zOSMF / WAS Liberty deployment? - KB --- Original Message --- On Saturday, November 19th, 2022 at 6:27 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 19/11/22 02:12, René Jansen wrote: > > > RMFIII is my main use case. > > > If

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

When I first noticed this tnz repo, I had no idea how to use it. Readme might as well have been written in ones and zeros. Only after I saw a post on medium (someone mentioned the link in this thread earlier) on tnz, did I know how to connect to a specific host:port. Open sourcing without doco is

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Oh that makes sense. A few days ago, people were posting about how they found IBM's assembler code from CICS or something very useful for their own learning advancement. At the time, there were vendors and allowing just visibility to source code would have been like leaving the room with their

Capture 3270 screen as text (was: TNZ 3270 Emulator: ... )

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 08:57:04 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 19/11/22 02:12, René Jansen wrote: >> RMFIII is my main use case. > >If it's graphics that you seek, RMF has been modernized to export to >Prometheus/Grafana. > Contrariwise, at times I have wished to be able to capture a screen as

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

On 19/11/22 02:12, René Jansen wrote: RMFIII is my main use case. If it's graphics that you seek, RMF has been modernized to export to Prometheus/Grafana. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. Quality of 3270 terminal emulators has been going down since CM/2, with

Re: ICETOOL / SORT capturing count of output records when using INCLUDE

>> Our input file is a tape variable block. Eric, Use the following control cards //SYSINDD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY OPTION COPY INCLUDE COND=(16,02,CH,EQ,C'',OR, 16,02,CH,EQ,C'',OR, 16,02,CH,EQ,C'') INREC OVERLAY=(1877:16,02,CHANGE=(3,C'',C'100',

Re: ICETOOL / SORT capturing count of output records when using INCLUDE

Hello Kolusu, I can't get it to work. Our input file is a tape variable block. The data we are selecting on is at byte 16, already adjusted for the 4 bytes. My output file will be tapes, FB, 1872 bytes. All the data from the input tape. I get: ICE027A 9 END OF OUT1 FIELD BEYOND MAXIMUM

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Yes, you can use the tnz zti emulator without SSL. The following will force port 23 (the normal non-SSL tn3270 port) and zti will default to not use SSL: zti {hostname}:23 You can also turn it off for any port: zti set SESSION_SSL 0 goto {hostname}[:{port}] Create a

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

I agree. In the case of orexx, it was the case that those parts were encumbered by intellectual property of unfriendly competitors; with this emulator, I cannot imagine that. This must be the mistaken ‘modernize’ lobby at work; on the other hand, at least it atmits the fact that you need a 3270

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Open sourcing is good; dropping functionality in the process, not so much. Reminds me of ooRexx, where IBM did not open source the OM and WPS classes from OREXX. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Hi Rene. You said: "... Who actually wants to use Windows for work? ..." Whether they want to or not, 90% of people use Windows for work. Regards, David On 2022-11-18 13:12, René Jansen wrote: RMFIII is my main use case. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. Quality of

Re: Fred P. Brooks passed away

Also, I seem to remember he was a proponent of using 8 bits per byte on, to make room for lower case letters as well as upper case. A worthy cause! Roops -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: ICETOOL / SORT capturing count of output records when using INCLUDE

Thanks so much Kolusu. That's perfect and just what we need. I really appreciate your speedy response.    Regards,         Eric Verwijs Programmeur-analyste, RPC, SV et solutions de paiement - Direction générale de l'innovation, information et technologie Emploi et Développement

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Zero Trust (ZTA) which is the currently-favored paradigm says to treat all networks, internal and external, as untrusted. That would imply TLS. You would not need "thousands of certificates": one per sysplex with TN3270 would be sufficient. And certificate generation increasingly is automated.

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Well, after taking a quick look at the code, it does not appear to have a no-SSL mode. But I agree with Peter, it should have one. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

It had better allow a no-SSL mode or it will be useless in shops with VPN networks for outside access and no SSL inside the VPN. SSL from outside is necessary, inside is crazy paranoid. Who's going to create and manage thousands of "certificates"? -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Can the SSL security feature be turned off completely? Thanks. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

ZOC is the best! Scriptable in REXX! > On 18 Nov 2022, at 13:13, Joe Monk wrote: > > Dont forget ZOC! > > Joe > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM Sebastian Welton > wrote: -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

RMFIII is my main use case. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. Quality of 3270 terminal emulators has been going down since CM/2, with lots of products having funny and off color schemes, no or wrong terminal status symbols, terribly mixed-up key definitions, the wrong

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

That URL did not work for me - I found it here: https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?appname=skmwww=897%2FENUS283-016=AN=CA=ibmsearch_a=ENUS283-016 HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Object Code Only. I.e. executables only with no source code. Michael At 09:33 AM 11/18/2022, kekronbekron wrote: Hi Paul, What's OCO? - KB --- Original Message --- On Thursday, November 17th, 2022 at 7:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Object Code Only (OCO) is a customer-hostile policy that IBM imposed in 1983, laden with broken > promises. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Fred P. Brooks passed away

What I remember best is his notion of a sort of surgical-team setup for software design. I suppose I'd be the tool-writer on such a team, although I might not be a complete failure as the librarian. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* ...this job has been a LOT of fun.

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Dont forget ZOC! Joe On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM Sebastian Welton wrote: > >And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors > left: Micro Focus and IBM! > > > > I think people have mentioned that there are quite a few TN3270 clients > still out there, on my (Windows)

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

>And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors left: >Micro Focus and IBM! > I think people have mentioned that there are quite a few TN3270 clients still out there, on my (Windows) system I have the following installed as each has something I require on it or can only

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Hi KB, OCO=Object Code Only That is, IBM's 1983 unintelligent decision to stop supplying Source Code. Yet, schizophrenically, they support Open Source. SMH (for the last 39 years). Regards, David On 2022-11-18 10:33, kekronbekron wrote: Hi Paul, What's OCO? - KB --- Original Message

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Hi Paul, What's OCO? - KB --- Original Message --- On Thursday, November 17th, 2022 at 7:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > > > Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool.

Re: Fred P. Brooks passed away

It also illustrated blind spots; he attributed the disinterest in TESTRAN to competition from TSO, which came later, rather than to a user hostile design. My initial impression of TESTRAN was that it was inferior to its equivalent in IBSYS/IBJOB. OTOH, his comments on over staffing a late

Re: Fred P. Brooks passed away

Somewhere in the early '80s my boss at the time passed around copies of "The Mythical Man-Month" for all his people to read. So often in such cases it's a book that set the giver on fire and he's disappointed when no one else gets the vision. But for me at least, I was pleasantly surprised to

Re: Fred P. Brooks passed away

Sad news. S/360, MVS and The Mythical Man-Month come to mind immediately. Roops On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, 09:45 Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD., < supp...@dunnitsys.com> wrote: > As of this posting, Wikipedia is still not updated. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Brooks > >

Fred P. Brooks passed away

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