Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 at 19:25, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:07:44 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >... > >So e.g. we have a product > >that has a notion of transactions, and a transaction is represented by a > >single CB that

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Brian Westerman
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Brian Westerman
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Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Joseph Reichman
Ok thanks > On Oct 11, 2023, at 7:25 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:07:44 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >> ... >> So e.g. we have a product >> that has a notion of transactions, and a transaction is represented by a >>

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:07:44 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >... >So e.g. we have a product >that has a notion of transactions, and a transaction is represented by a >single CB that points to various other CBs, ... > How do you achieve that, given that Rexx has no pointer type? STORAGE() lets you

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
I use the bpxwmigf tool for zfs resizing activities. Works great, less filling. If you're able to use zEDC compression, that's also something to enable on newly allocated zfs file systems. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Joseph Reichman
I have one question is there another way to create a structure besides using the BLSQ macros that’s the only thing I need to do in assembler the rest I’ll do Rexx > On Oct 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 at 03:59, Joseph Reichman wrote: > > That was very

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:44:39 +, Peter Relson wrote: > >As it happens, the offending sentence had already been removed from the 3.1 >book. Since the thread started before those books were generally available to >be looked at, it's not surprising that that was not realized. > I see that.

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 at 03:59, Joseph Reichman wrote: That was very helpful back to my first beef > > The EVAL….. subcommands particular to Rexx clist are interspersed among > those IPCS subcommands done by hand > > The reason I think I cannt get around verbx assembler exit is because I > want to

DFDSS RFE - Please read / vote

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Zelden
Hi all, Please read / vote for this RFE. "Provide abilty for DSS to be able to scratch and reallocate an in use data set name that is not the actual dataset in use during a logical copy operation" https://ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3862 I think you vote here:

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mike Schwab
Alternate is to mount the new ZFS at a new mount point, issue *ix commands to copy the current files to new location(s), unmount both, rename both and mount new ZFS(s). On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:18 PM Michael Babcock wrote: > > It’s documented in the ZFS Administration book, section “Copying the

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Pace
Thank you! That appears to have done the trick. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Michael Babcock wrote: > It’s documented in the ZFS Administration book, section “Copying the > physical blocks of the aggregate to a larger dataset”. > > Don’t format the .NEW or it doesn’t work. > > On Wed, Oct

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2023-10-11 Thread Steve Thompson
On 10/11/2023 3:04 PM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: SVC 13 Priceless. Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Steve Beaver
I think Repo is a good idea but you still need to format the whole zOS Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Oct 11, 2023, at 14:18, Michael Babcock wrote: > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Michael Babcock
It’s documented in the ZFS Administration book, section “Copying the physical blocks of the aggregate to a larger dataset”. Don’t format the .NEW or it doesn’t work. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:07 PM Mark Pace wrote: > Hmm - never tried repo on an zfs aggregate. I'll give it a try. Thanks./ >

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Pace
Hmm - never tried repo on an zfs aggregate. I'll give it a try. Thanks./ On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 3:01 PM Michael Babcock wrote: > I usually allocate a .NEW, REPRO from the current to .NEW and RENAME. > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 1:59 PM Mark Pace wrote: > > > Same results using replace or

Re: Small problem with JNFxCNTL and VTOF

2023-10-11 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> I was trying to use JNF1CNTL and JNF2CNTL to build the input files for the >> JOINKEYS from the two initial files but due to the different formats I have >> not been able to do it Jack, DFSORT Joinkeys is quite capable of comparing a FB format file with VB format file, you really do not

Re: Israel

2023-10-11 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
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Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Michael Babcock
I usually allocate a .NEW, REPRO from the current to .NEW and RENAME. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 1:59 PM Mark Pace wrote: > Same results using replace or replaceu > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:47 PM Mark Pace wrote: > > > No, I've used REPLACE. I'll give that a try. > > > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Pace
Same results using replace or replaceu On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:47 PM Mark Pace wrote: > No, I've used REPLACE. I'll give that a try. > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:46 PM Art Zeigler wrote: > >> Did you use the REPLACEUnconditional parameter with the restore? Also, >> make sure you don't

Re: Israel

2023-10-11 Thread Jerome Benting
BLAH BLAH BLAH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel This thread was dead until you resurrected it. Darren is a volunteer and is doing a great job

Re: Israel

2023-10-11 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
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Re: Israel

2023-10-11 Thread Jerome Benting
Emmie . I am 100 percent with you on this. Too much vanity here.. Darren you have to act and KILL this stupid thread -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Pace
No, I've used REPLACE. I'll give that a try. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:46 PM Art Zeigler wrote: > Did you use the REPLACEUnconditional parameter with the restore? Also, > make sure you don't have SMS routines getting in the way. > > Art Zeigler > > > From: IBM

Re: Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Art Zeigler
Did you use the REPLACEUnconditional parameter with the restore? Also, make sure you don't have SMS routines getting in the way. Art Zeigler From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 2:26 PM To:

Re: Israel

2023-10-11 Thread esmie moo
Yes.  I am glad that your brought it up.  No talk about the Russian invasion was posted.  There are different rules for different topics. Darrin should appoint another administrator to manage the board.  He has failed to enforce the rules. On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:06:03 p.m. EDT,

Resize a ZFS aggregate

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Pace
I have a zfs file that has grown so large it can't any more extents. So the plan was to Unmount the filesystem Dump the file to disk dataset. Delete the filesystem Define the filesystem with larger primary and secondary extents. Restore the dump to the new filesystem and remount. BUT - when I

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Oct11:0924-0400, Rick Troth wrote: > The web burst onto the scene. Thankfully HTTP and HTML have tagging > capabilities, so for most consumers ... well ... they have no idea the work > the techies have gone thru. And to think IBM's C-suite thought it was a good idea in the early '80s to get

System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord)

2023-10-11 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
There is an online community for all System Z Enthusiasts on discord that is growing. There are discussions ranging from the z/OS Open Tools to Hercules to CBTape tools to Stack Overflow questions on Z to nearly anything and everything related to Z. Check it out at: https://discord.gg/3PKgUayuSV

Re: How turn on GSK trace for batch job that is controlled by PAGENT?

2023-10-11 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
It does matter. Those parameters only work when FTP is calling System SSL directly. When using AT-TLS/pagent FTP is not involved in the SSL process so it can't trace I wish I had the details and could be of more help (just learning AT-TLS/pagent) , but in one of the pagent parameters that

Small problem with JNFxCNTL and VTOF

2023-10-11 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi, I am using DFSORT JOINKEYS to compare two files and to create two output files with the unpaired records from each one of those files. My problem is that one of the input files has a VB format while the other one has a FB format. I was trying to use JNF1CNTL and JNF2CNTL to build the input

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-10-11 Thread Peter Relson
Paul G wrote I fear "unpredictable" is too often the writers' excuse when they don't know the answer to a request for clarification and can't find out. I don't think you will find that that is true in z/OS books. Writers do not make up usage of that word. They are asked to do so because the

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Tom Brennan
I do, I just haven't had a chance yet to try it with the new 3.1 htm file and (most likely) make any needed changes. Later today... On 10/10/2023 9:46 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: Tom, Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual names? Brian

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:38:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That's what I'm doing, and it works fine on everything but edge. > Report the problem to the supplier. (Firefox used to do that, but it's better now.) -- gil -- For

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 10/11/23 6:39 AM, jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Thanks guys for all you instructive answers! :-) As it usually happens when you try to understand something, new questions often arise and you realize that things are fairly more complicated than you initially beleived. I think that's a

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
LISTIDR output is much more readable. That's only for load modules and program objects, but for anything else the first 4KiB block isn't likely to help. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Beaver

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
PDS86, Shirley. Unless you have the Serena product (Is it still named StarFTool?). From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 9:24 AM To:

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's what I'm doing, and it works fine on everything but edge. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 12:18:55 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Yes, but what if you want to access them from your local drive? I edited >index.html from 2.5 to point to local copies and Edge decided to "download" >them instead of opening a new file. > I'm doing that. The *_TOC.htm file allows my

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread Rick Troth
On 10/10/23 22:22, Grant Taylor wrote: On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote: The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I was wondering the same thing. I'm watching the thread to learn more. *blush* Gotta be prepared to say "I was wrong".

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Steve Beaver
There is one other option. Pull down PDS85 and see if anyone updated the software/source to support PDS(e)’s Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Oct 11, 2023, at 08:19, Steve Beaver wrote: > > You might see if you can use IDCAMs to list the first 4k page of

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Steve Beaver
You might see if you can use IDCAMs to list the first 4k page of the PDS(e) in HEX and see what it looks like Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Oct 11, 2023, at 08:07, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > Thanks for all the responses. So many ways to get what I needed.

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Thanks for all the responses. So many ways to get what I needed. In my case, we wanted to grab the information to deliver back to the user via a REST API. * I wanted to stay in Java but would write something native to be called. * z/OSMF was an option but it created a hard / non-ubiquitous

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, but what if you want to access them from your local drive? I edited index.html from 2.5 to point to local copies and Edge decided to "download" them instead of opening a new file. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Thanks guys for all you instructive answers! As it usually happens when you try to understand something, new questions often arise and you realize that things are fairly more complicated than you initially beleived. Juan

AW: [IBM-MAIN] Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Beate Kawelke
For JAVA, you might want to look into the RESTful APIs which come with z/OSMF. Lots of good stuff to access datasets  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Im Auftrag von ITschak Mugzach Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2023 10:00 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread ITschak Mugzach
There is a sample assembler program in xephon magazine. Find it in the cbttape website ITschak בתאריך יום ג׳, 10 באוק׳ 2023 ב-21:46 מאת Matt Hogstrom : > Thanks Mike, this helps a lot. > > Matt Hogstrom > m...@hogstrom.org > +1-919-656-0564 > PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 > Facebook

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks That was very helpful back to my first beef The EVAL….. subcommands particular to Rexx clist are interspersed among those IPCS subcommands done by hand The reason I think I cannt get around verbx assembler exit is because I want to create a structure to be used in the run chain

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I am still mystified why you want to use CBF out of REXX code. Use EVAL to get the storage. I would think that it would be much easier to manipulate the control block itself rather than parse the CBF output. Here is a REXX program to show the subsystem control blocks. /* REXX */