Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-19 Thread Phil Smith III
he idiom really intends. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 12:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is z/OS FTP encrypted? Phil Smith III wrote: >If I?m "Paul"* then can you point me

Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-18 Thread Phil Smith III
If I’m "Paul"* then can you point me at something that would describe how to become AT-TLS aware in a GSK application? Thanks! ...phsiii *This happens to me *constantly*, like at least once a month. My dad (PHS2) said it never happened to him! Four letters, one syllable, begins with a P and en

Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-17 Thread Phil Smith III
Because since Windows FTP doesn't "do" SFTP, it won't work. You can't throw a TLS handshake at a port that isn't going to recognize it and react appropriately. That's what I keep harping about: AT-TLS is *great*, I'm not dissing it at all; but it's not magic, you can't just add it at random and

Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-17 Thread Phil Smith III
John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote, in part: >The remote side still has to support SSL/TLS so it know. This is of course correct, and is where the danger comes from folks thinking "Oh, adding TLS will be good, it's adding security!" Whichever side is seeing the encrypted traffic has to be ready to deal

Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-17 Thread Phil Smith III
Timothy Sipples wrote, in part: >z/OS AT-TLS supports both inbound and outbound connections. Cool! Now I'm wondering if we should have gone that route in 2008, instead of using GSK ourselves. O well, sure not gonna change now! -

Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?

2024-09-16 Thread Phil Smith III
I saw Hayim's note that FTP on z/OS supports encryption, and uses AT-TLS/PAGENT, so I'm not asking about FTP itself here. Rather, I'm wondering about the earlier suggestion to add AT-TLS. In the cases I've seen, AT-TLS only works for outbound. Can you also tell it "This incoming connection will

Re: [Upgrading z/OS vs. z/VM

2024-09-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks to all who responded. Interesting and I learned a lot. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Wow, that's hard to believe--it seems like it was just yesterday! The perils of aging, I guess... But is it really "Hapy Birthday" if it's been subsumed? A theological question. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Sunday, September

Re: [EXTERNAL] Upgrading z/OS vs. z/VM

2024-09-03 Thread Phil Smith III
Ok, that's interesting. Maybe we're more constrained because it's an ADCD image? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Upgrading z/OS

Upgrading z/OS vs. z/VM

2024-09-03 Thread Phil Smith III
I'm NOT trying to start a war here, just trying to grok whether I'm confused or not. I will make assertions below, any/all of which may be wrong, but that seems better than qualifying each with "I think..." etc. Upgrading z/VM versions has been pretty trivial for quite a while: point to a new C

MP3000 parts available

2024-08-28 Thread Phil Smith III
(Resending to IBM-MAIN because it rejected the HTML-formatted original; cross-posted to IBM-MAIN, IBMVM, LINUX-390, and the Herucles list) Someone in Oakland, CA (near Lake Merritt) has most of an MP3000 they're trying to give away. No HMC, but the chassis, disks, etc.; FOB Oakland. If you're i

Re: Relative Instructions not generated by some IBM macros, e.g. STORAGE and ATTACHX

2024-08-27 Thread Phil Smith III
Gil wrote, in part: >"Enhanced" might be a better word than "fixed." Sure--hence my scare quotes. OP made it sound like they considered this a bug, more or less. Hey, let's write a SHARE requirement to convert all macros and source to use Jump instructions! IBM will want to get right on that...

Re: Relative Instructions not generated by some IBM macros, e.g. STORAGE and ATTACHX

2024-08-26 Thread Phil Smith III
I hadn't ever viewed the relative instructions as completely replacing addressability. Interesting. I do suspect that this is never going to be "fixed": it's a lot of work, and it essentially ain't broken, so... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymo

Re: 3270 programming

2024-08-15 Thread Phil Smith III
Might be useful to know what OP wants to do. There are things like the IND$FILE protocol that aren't documented, or barely; IIRC, the best doc on that one is hiding in the PC3270 book. But it was 30+ years ago, from the Relay/Gold days, and I could be misremembering. *Something* to do with 3270s

Re: How to "touch" mainframe files

2024-08-05 Thread Phil Smith III
ts from ML2 can take quite a lot of elapsed time. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 4:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files Well there you go: //MASK EXEC PGM=IEFBR1

Re: How to "touch" mainframe files

2024-08-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Well there you go: //MASK EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=some.dataset.name Looked before, DOLR was 8/1; repeated to be sure looking at DOLR didn't change DOLR (which would be Bad, but); ran job; now DOLR is 8/5. Now, OP had something about "the files are large" bu

Re: How to "touch" mainframe files

2024-08-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >IMHO "last reference date" is updated wherever ISPF user type I (info) line >command in >P.3.4 menu. So there you go: a HLLAPI script that drives a TSO session... /s (OK, it might work, but several MUCH simpler approaches have been mooted here!) ---

Re: How to "touch" mainframe files

2024-08-02 Thread Phil Smith III
t: Friday, August 2, 2024 6:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files Phil asked: This makes me realize that I don't know what "touch" actually does. I mean, I know the effect, but what does it have to do to make that happen? I

Re: How to "touch" mainframe files

2024-08-02 Thread Phil Smith III
Billy Ashton asked how to do the equivalent of a USS "touch" on a z/OS data set. I'm wondering if there's something like the C "DD:ddname" filename specification hack that could be used. I know this would seem odd: run a batch job that uses BPXwhatever to run USS "touch", but if it's possible...

Re: Breaking Event Address, BEAR

2024-07-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Too early, too many acronyms/initialisms--I spent several seconds trying to figure out what 'IBM' stood for. Sheesh. ("If BEAR..." "I Barely Mean...") -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 7:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LIST

Re: Does MVCDK move 'per byte' like MVC?

2024-07-26 Thread Phil Smith III
On z/VM, using PER, you can see that MVCL is interruptible: issuing one for a big area (typically MB), you may see the same instruction traced multiple times. Kinda fun. At least that was true at some point; been a while since I've used PER in anger. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfra

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-22 Thread Phil Smith III
Andrew Rowley wrote, in part: >You can't really blame Windows in this case. >If you had a linklisted, APF authorized product that hooked into >system functions and was remotely updateable by the vendor without a >system restart, they could equally bring down all z/OS systems >simultaneously. Exact

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Gil wrote: >But these things happen. I heard of a product that crashed >reproducibly at customer sites having 8 or more tape drives. >Who does that in a test lab!> Exactly. The real problem here isn't that *gasp* there was a software problem: it's that nobody thought about how things could fail

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Denis wrote, in part: >It would be so easy to keep the last good known boot images (including >drivers) and switch back automatically, if booting does not succeed >for e.g. 3 times. Indeed. That might even be more elegant than the solution I proposed yesterday where it would ask "Does ye wanna be

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [IBM-MAIN] Connect:Direct

2024-07-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Sterling sold a lot more than storage management. They were, like CA, a huge company that most folks had never heard of. Humorously, there's a Sterling, Virginia about five miles from what was the Sterling Software office in Reston. Occasionally while working for Sterling someone would ask me w

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-19 Thread Phil Smith III
puter outing! lol spell check but thanks for correcting a 2nd grade word. Dave B. إسرائيل قتلت 40 ألف فلسطيني بريء On Friday, July 19, 2024, 10:32 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: *outage not *outing The real question is how many (OK, how FEW) CxOs are going to look at this and say "Gee, SPO

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [IBM-MAIN] Connect:Direct

2024-07-19 Thread Phil Smith III
Yes. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connect:Direct for a pretty accurate timeline. I was in Sterling VMD 1997-2000 (through the CA acquisition), which was in the same building as NMD (the NDM/Connect:Direct folks), despite being nominally separate companies by then. I never dug into the dich

Re: World’s largest computer outing!

2024-07-19 Thread Phil Smith III
*outage not *outing The real question is how many (OK, how FEW) CxOs are going to look at this and say "Gee, SPOF, eggs in one basket, *not under our control*, is this cloudy thingy really such a great idea?" -Original Message- > On 7/19/24 at 9:38 AM, Dave Beagle wrote: > >> Microsoft

Dumb SDSF question

2024-07-18 Thread Phil Smith III
Poking around in SDSF today, I scrolled all the way to the right and found: SysLevel z/OS 02.04.00 HBB77C0 z/OS 02.04.00 HBB77C0 z/OS 02.04.00 HBB77C0 (etc.) Why is this listed for each running task? Wild guess: in a SYSPLEX/JESPLEX (and no, I don’t understand the difference between

Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

2024-07-16 Thread Phil Smith III
Since we're drifting: My dad had many friends in Prague, because he studied there in 1947 (and was there when the Communists took over, though he was across town). He visited there as often as he could, and at one point in the 80s got a tour of a data centre. Technology there included paper tape

Re: Connect:Direct

2024-07-15 Thread Phil Smith III
Mike Schwab wrote: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connect:Direct >Mid 1980s The Systems Center created by UCC employees. Determined >need for high speed data transfer between mainframe OSes, added >midrange then PCs. >Merged with VM Systems to form Systems Center Inc. >Bought by Sterling 1993. >St

Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

2024-07-13 Thread Phil Smith III
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote, in part: >BTW: Privately I am floppy disk entomologist. So...you deBUG floppies? /s -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the messa

Re: another z/OSMF rant. -- Catch-22 is killing me

2024-07-12 Thread Phil Smith III
ions - it does not query what you already have - you have to enter it all from scratch! This is not z/OSMF's fault. Colin On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 at 17:34, Phil Smith III wrote: > Well, like a busted clock, Bill isn't wrong *every* time. The thinking > is that since Kids Today

Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

2024-07-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Some Googling suggests that there really were no 12" floppies. I suspect if you grew up with late "hard" floppies, 8" look enormous, are easily mistaken for 12"! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAI

Re: another z/OSMF rant. -- Catch-22 is killing me

2024-07-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, like a busted clock, Bill isn't wrong *every* time. The thinking is that since Kids Today expect GUIs, having one will make z/OS more attractive/usable for them. That's probably not wrong: y'all use ISPF, right? That's a GUI, such as they were circa 1980. Why do you use it? Because it's mo

Re: another z/OSMF rant. -- Catch-22 is killing me

2024-07-11 Thread Phil Smith III
Things I Wish I'd Said dept: "A GUI is like a joke: If you have to explain it, it isn't very good." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO I

Re: Off topic discussions

2024-07-10 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, I lose: it didn't strip my sig and looking at current LISTSERV doc, I don't see an option to do so. O well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Off topic discussions

2024-07-10 Thread Phil Smith III
I'd be surprised if a current version of LISTSERV didn't remove them automatically, or at least have an option to do so--when properly formatted. OTOH, how many folks here besides him and me knew about that convention? I fear it's one that's sorta died since Usenet died. Which is a shame. Wait,

Re: another z/OSMF rant. -- Catch-22 is killing me

2024-07-08 Thread Phil Smith III
This is exactly the problem Windows had in the early days: it's all well and good until you fall off the edge, out of the GUI envelope, and then all is lost. That doesn't make it necessarily a bad idea--I hear Windows has a *few* users--but it does mean that you need to be very, Very, VERY serio

Re: What's at a comma?

2024-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What's at a comma? Phil S wrote: IPL PSW: The first eight bytes read during a CCW-type initial-program-loading (IPL) initial read operation are stored at locations 0-7. ... That's what I was talking about re the IPL PSW. That is, of course, true. My poin

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-03 Thread Phil Smith III
Without starting/escalating a war here, may I ask about this: >ooRexx would be a terrible language for automation because automation >loses control of storage management. Those oop features come at a >cost. If your product isn't essential then ooRexx is fine but can be a >huge problem for system cr

Re: What's at a comma?

2024-07-03 Thread Phil Smith III
Peter Relson wrote: >The code is checking 7 bytes at location x'6B' through x'71'. >As of z/OS 2.5 that area is all zeroes. >Prior to z/OS 2.5 for any z/Architecture IPL it is not. The same is >true for location 0 and others. >Since none of them are programming interfaces (such that changing the

Re: What's at a comma?

2024-07-03 Thread Phil Smith III
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2024 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What's at a comma? On 7/2/2024 3:20 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: > It would indeed. But I'm astonished that the IPL PSW is zeroes?! Perhaps some &

Re: What's at a comma?

2024-07-02 Thread Phil Smith III
Schmitt, Michael wrote: >The REXX code displays: > > >Which would explain why it isn't branching. >We were on z/OS 2.4 before. It would indeed. But I'm astonished that the IPL PSW is zeroes?! Perhaps some IBMer can explain that. And maybe someone else on 2.5 can

Re: What's at a comma?

2024-07-02 Thread Phil Smith III
I don't think "breaks this code" is fair. More like "This code is now equally broken but no longer randomly 'works' quite as often". In any case, x'6B' is in the middle of: FLCER018 DSCL104 FLCE 18x: reserved ...which starts at location x'18'. On my 2.4 system, that's all zeroes. Locatio

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Phil Smith III
"roooRexx" -- ruh roh, Scooby Dooo! (sorry, couldn't resist) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank yo

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-01 Thread Phil Smith III
tz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Phil Smith III > Sent: Monday, July 1, 2024 2:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Rexx is qui

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-01 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Lack of closure: I don't believe a function package, much less a >command environment can be coded in REXX. those must be coded in >another language, therefore less portable. Well, that's a good point. OORexx makes that somewhat better, but not like P/P. But I could imagine

Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-01 Thread Phil Smith III
I've long maintained that Rexx's (arguable) failure (I'm a huge fan, so I resist that term, but the popularity of first Perl and now Python kind of make it true) is due to two things: 1) It's IBM and too many folks therefore concluded it must be bad. 2) There were few decent/public examples of h

Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer

2024-07-01 Thread Phil Smith III
: Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 14:40:05 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >...am I the only one who SMH at the documentation for things like >ISFEXEC >(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=language-issuing-commands-isfexec >)? > It reads like it was wri

Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-06-29 Thread Phil Smith III
*you're. I'm tired. -Original Message----- From: Phil Smith III Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 10:48 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News Ed, I'm honestly unsure what point your making here. That sounds pis

Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-06-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Ed, I'm honestly unsure what point your making here. That sounds pissy and I don't mean it to be--just honestly confused? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of EDWARD GOULD Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 7:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS

Re: Using environment variables in JCL and USS

2024-06-25 Thread Phil Smith III
SWAG but have you tried a trailing semicolon? Or quotes around the value? I found an example on the web for another product: ENVAR C='X Y' ...which sorta suggests that the quotes might work. Might try both flavors of quote, too. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: gsk and ICSF

2024-06-21 Thread Phil Smith III
fferent data set, and I was looking at the main one. My bad. But customer sent the entire thing from SPOOL and now that I know what to look for, I see it in hers. And I'll figure out why this output is separate and fix that. -Original Message- From: Phil Smith III Sent: Friday,

gsk and ICSF

2024-06-21 Thread Phil Smith III
(Cross-posted to IBMTCP-L and IBM-MAIN) Had an odd one this morning: a customer who was doing some testing could not connect to our server (on premises at their site) from z/OS (server is an x86 Linux machine). I saw the email when I woke up and thought "OK, gsktrace to the rescue!" But by the

Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer

2024-06-14 Thread Phil Smith III
bdyck<https://github.com/lbdyck> System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze<https://discord.gg/sze> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- Fro

As a long-time Rexx programmer

2024-06-13 Thread Phil Smith III
...am I the only one who SMH at the documentation for things like ISFEXEC (https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=language-issuing-commands-isfexec)? It reads like it was written by someone who doesn't quite understand how variables/literals work in Rexx: -- You issue commands with the ISFE

Re: A new way to look at load modules

2024-06-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Nice. Sounds like CMS MODMAP, kinda. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sam Golob Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: A new way to look at load modules Dear Folks, We have a new TSO command called LISTMOD, wh

Re: Upgrade by cutting a wire?

2024-05-31 Thread Phil Smith III
.. yeah ... I might "upgrade by cutting a wire" soonish. Not mainframe, but kinda related. And your fault for making me think of it. *:-)* -- R; <>< On 5/31/24 9:49 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: > I remember hearing that some Amdahl 370 clone was upgradable by cutting a >

Re: Upgrade by cutting a wire?

2024-05-31 Thread Phil Smith III
Heh. In a similar vein, in June 1996 I spent a fun-filled week onsite at a New York insurance company overseeing testing of a custom program written by some Israeli contractors. The project used five rented PCs. I get there and start setting up: one of the PCs won't connect to the network. It's

Upgrade by cutting a wire?

2024-05-31 Thread Phil Smith III
I remember hearing that some Amdahl 370 clone was upgradable by cutting a wire. Anyone else ever hear this? Can't find a cite on the web. Just curiosity, no real point to this...! (But it is Friday.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-28 Thread Phil Smith III
And just to make you laugh/groan/cry, from a book I read last night (fiction), someone commenting on an encoded transmission: "I'm pretty sure it's eight-bit ASCII, also known as UTF-8" -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Tuesday, May 2

Re: VTOCs vs. catalogs

2024-05-28 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, thanks. This has been interesting, with at least the typical amount of thread drift! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

VTOCs vs. catalogs

2024-05-23 Thread Phil Smith III
I'm curious whether any of you old-timers can explain why we have both VTOCs and catalogs. I'm guessing it comes down to (a) VTOCs came first and catalogs were added to solve some problem (what?) and/or (b) catalogs were added to save some I/O and/or memory, back when a bit of those mattered. But

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JOB card format

2024-05-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks for the clarification! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 9:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JOB card format On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 15:01, Phil Smith III wrote

Re: AT-TLS Redbook

2024-05-10 Thread Phil Smith III
I've said this here before, but it bears repeating: although I'd be the first to agree that this sounds stupid/basic, make sure they know NOT to turn it on Just Because. We've had two customers who decided it would increase security, so they enabled it--for a connection that was already using ht

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Phil Smith III
GMTA! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JOB card format 357912 so 5x the 64k limit. * 60 = 2,1474,720 seconds. About 1/1000 of a 2GB limit if .001

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Phil Smith III
Rex Pommier wrote, in part: >So how did they come up with this one? From the JCL reference manual: >minutes >Specifies the maximum number of minutes the step can use the processor. >Minutes must be a >number from 0 through 357912 (248.55 days). >357912 minutes? My brain isn't coming up with a

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Phil Smith III
upported by, and do not necessarily express or reflect, the views, positions or strategies of my employer. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 20:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JOB card format EXTERNAL EMAIL Thanks. I knew it

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-09 Thread Phil Smith III
_ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 7:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JOB card format I just spent far longer Googling than I think I should have NOT finding documentation on

Re: JOB card format

2024-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
PG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com On Wednesday, May 8th, 2024 at 7:38 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: > I just spent far longer Googling than I think I should

JOB card format

2024-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
I just spent far longer Googling than I think I should have NOT finding documentation on the format of a JOB card. Surely this exists.? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lis

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP On Wed, 8 May 2024 12:05:26 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >"I have seen this before"--what is "this"? > I believe he's referring to my citation of

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks. That wasn't obvious to me because I did not get from that Bemer page that IBM had erred in not making the 360 ASCII only--just that had the software actually supported ASCII, things would have been different. Better? Maybe; it's certainly been that case that a ton of resources have been

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
"I have seen this before"--what is "this"? I'm curious about your assertion that ASCII/EBCDIC cannot translate cleanly. With the right EBCDIC code page, we do this every day. The basic etoa() and atoe() work fine, have not caused problems--and we care a lot about specific characters, as we supp

Assembler/compiler fun

2024-05-07 Thread Phil Smith III
See code produced by different compilers. (Search for "s390x" in the "choose compiler" box to find the Z compilers) https://godbolt.org/ What strange hobbies some people have! (I'm including myself there) -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

2024-04-30 Thread Phil Smith III
BM wrote, in part: >On zOS, its EBCDIC file, is there any solution first convert to ASCII then >Terse send? Google is your friend: "z/os" "convert to ascii" immediately found lots of discussion, including https://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/kIFvk8fr/data-conversion-ebcdic-to-ascii which su

Re: Hex error code interpreter?

2024-04-28 Thread Phil Smith III
ive. Ramsey Hallman MVS/Quickref Support Group On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 7:09 AM Colin Paice < 059d4daca697-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > See gsk_strerror() > <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=reference-gsk-strerror> > > On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 23:16

Re: Netview

2024-04-27 Thread Phil Smith III
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >"vel" is not Polish. We don't have letter "v". It is latin, so I >supposed it is wide known. >And yes, it is "aka". >BTW: WTF is aka??? :-) Interesting. I believe ya (not gonna argue with someone about their native language!) but the usage seems to be Polish, per: https:

Re: Hex error code interpreter?

2024-04-27 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks to all; BPXMTEXT is what I was looking for, though it didn't help in this case. -Original Message- From: Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 6:16 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' ; 'mvs...@vm.marist.edu' Subject: Hex error code interprete

Hex error code interpreter?

2024-04-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Did I dream it, or is there some utility that can take an error such as gsk_encrypt_tls13_record(): AES GCM Encryption failed: Error 0x03353084 and interpret the 0x03353084? I swear I remember seeing this but can't find it now. Getting old sucks*. *But consider the alternatives.

Re: Netview

2024-04-26 Thread Phil Smith III
For those who are curious like me, "vel" is Polish for "AKA". That was my guess, confirmed via Tha Goog. Not throwing shade at Radoslaw, whose English is better than that of a lot of folks on the list who are native speakers! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Be

Re: Netview

2024-04-25 Thread Phil Smith III
Also lots of stuff went to UNICOM, like the Optim products (and more). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Not getting IBM-MAIN Email

2024-04-19 Thread Phil Smith III
More: One of the folks who was having problems writes: >I gave up on using my pacbell.net email...I switched my Assembler list >and IBM MAIN list to my .gmail email address and all is well. I looked, and pacbell.net has no SPF record. Remember, mine started flowing once I had enabled SPF, so...ma

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-18 Thread Phil Smith III
Gil asked: > How do regular expessions play with R-to-L text? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50570322/regex-pattern-matching-in-right-to-left-languages -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Not getting IBM-MAIN Email

2024-04-16 Thread Phil Smith III
I'm'a try to post this from my lists@ address, because I suspect it will work. Longish but (if you're reading it at all) it suggests some progress on the list email issue. To recap, as of a couple of weeks ago: - I was suddenly not able to post from lists@ - I was still getting the daily digest

Re: IBM key management products

2024-04-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Charles wrote: >When I was doing security presentations as part of my job one of the >"controversies" I ran into was that the supposed percentage of insider >attacks is all over the place. I used to see 85% in one set of >statistics and nearly zero in others. I have no independent knowledge. My po

Re: IBM key management products

2024-04-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Tony Harminc wrote: >Yes, storage administrators are a small population, but their >credentials can be compromised as much as anyone else's, and then >you're not dealing with rogue storage admins but with criminal (or >goverment or whatever) actors. And storage admins (or their >credentials) may we

Re: IBM key management products

2024-04-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Well that's a good point, Charles. A relatively minor risk, compared to external attackers, but I suppose they could come in via the sandbox/test system, too. Definitely a "Swiss cheese attack"! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Fr

Re: Not getting IBM-MAIN Email

2024-04-10 Thread Phil Smith III
Digest showing up is of course a positive step, but not the answer. I've always gotten the digests on my lists@akphs address, just (starting recently) couldn't post. Now you seem to be able to do both, but can't get a QUERY IBM-MAIN response. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: Posting issues?

2024-04-06 Thread Phil Smith III
On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Posting issues? On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 15:36:21 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >Yeah, I have SPF records. But, increasingly, it seems to be necessary to have DMARC and DKIM properly setup, to

Re: Posting issues?

2024-04-05 Thread Phil Smith III
:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Posting issues? Let's see if this gets through. I THINK my posts are making it (seems like one did earlier this week), and this being a GMail identity, that would make sense. Phil, you're trying to use a custom address. That is to say, yo

Posting issues?

2024-04-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Starting about a week ago, I noticed that posts sent from my lists@akphs address weren't showing up in the archives. Email to mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu with QUERY IBM-MAIN got no response; same from my work address got the expected "not subscribed" message. Yet my daily digest to that add

Re: FTP translate table defaults

2024-04-05 Thread Phil Smith III
2024 13:32:46 -0400, Phil Smith IIIwrote: >... >I don't have a solid answer other than that file tagging seems to matter, so >chtag is your friend. > . Does the FTP server have such as a SITE CHTAG command? Will FTP automatically tag a file to the value

Re: FTP translate table defaults

2024-04-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Radoslaw asked about default translate tables for FTP. My earlier thread titled "FTP problem", here and MVS-OE, seems related. I don't have a solid answer other than that file tagging seems to matter, so chtag is your friend. Or I've misunderstood the question, of course. -

Re: FTP problem

2024-03-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Colin Paice wrote: >It may be interaction with _BPXK_AUTOCVT environment variable, and >possibly the FILETAG Hmm. _BPXK_AUTOCVT is ON; setting it to OFF means that a text file tagged as ISO8859-1 now displays as garbage, which makes sense. IBM-1047 and untagged files display OK. (It also breaks

Re: FTP problem

2024-03-19 Thread Phil Smith III
remaining mystery is what's making a random file created via echo (or various other things) be ISO8859-1 instead of native EBCDIC?! From: Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 6:13 PM To: 'ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu' Subject: RE: FTP problem Off-list reply poin

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-14 Thread Phil Smith III
For me, this prompts discussion over "Is using SIGNAL worse than not modularizing the initialization?": /**/ stuff signal DoInit DoneInit: . DoInit: numeric digits 40 . signal DoneInit --- Discuss :) -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: BASE64 Decode / EPOCH Conversion Code Samples

2024-03-10 Thread Phil Smith III
There seems to be confusion about what Base64 (jeez, I keep typing "54" or "65"!) encoding is. It's just what it sounds like: an encoding of characters using a 64-character* alphabet, i.e., six bits at a time. Hex '01020304' Base64-encodes to the same set of 8-bit characters whether ASCII or EBCD

Re: Question

2024-02-23 Thread Phil Smith III
Yes, the Serena stuff is part of the divestiture to Rocket. Request: more extensive Subject: lines than "Question". Makes the list much more useful. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

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