In 54b1.1010...@t-online.de, on 01/21/2015
at 01:12 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said:
It was C, not PL/1 ... but from that experience I see absolutely
no reason why such things should not happen with PL/1,
SIZE(); my recollection is that C has an equivalent. It sounds
In 54be8afc026d0017f...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/20/2015
at 03:06 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said:
You have to understand, CP is the nucleus of z/VM.
I've understood for decades what CP was, TYVM.
There are pieces of it that do normal operating system things,
Just as there are
In 54bce8fd026d0017f...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/19/2015
at 09:22 AM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said:
Of course not, but the things you were talking about are not part of
the hypervisor features of CP, but the OS itself.
Untrue; CP includes code for error handling. and the port of,
In 54be20bf.5030...@t-online.de, on 01/20/2015
at 10:32 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said:
if you are building linked lists etc, then pointers are part of
structures etc., and if you have this, if pointer size changes,
then offsets of other fields inside structures change,
In
of2b409f1d.877f9848-on85257dd3.004937e2-85257dd3.004a2...@us.ibm.com,
on 01/20/2015
at 08:29 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
I don't know of any reentrant code in the BCP in assembler or
(internal) PL/X for which static does not happen to equate to
constant-after-load.
While some
In
cae1xxdei9g-fnggcnjqnkko+ll8zomth+1mwoyueb+1hzb+...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/17/2015
at 10:02 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
PL/I provides the storage class controlled for implementing anchors
and the like in reentrant routines. C and its sequelæ did/do not,
Close but no cigar.
In
25010924.1421447500077.javamail.r...@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net,
on 01/16/2015
at 03:31 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said:
What I am trying to do is capture the output on our counters in zFS
to see if I can reduce any caches.
Are you authotized for CONSOLE? Does it
In 3cff2f6e-8a89-4cc9-9a1b-23c71fad3...@gmail.com, on 01/18/2015
at 03:51 AM, Dno snipers5...@gmail.com said:
2) Are there storage areas used by USI, UJV, and UTL that are passed
to and eventually freed by ACTRT?
I don't know whether KOMAND PACE uses it, but the is a user data field
common to
In 54bab26b026d0017f...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/17/2015
at 05:05 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said:
What you're talking about aren't features of a hypervisor, per se,
but operating systems in general.
What is CP, chopped liver?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
In
CAE1XxDGZCVPtzLQ-izOtn2hVRkFB7zofrayAR0oCTq=hatf...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/18/2015
at 11:05 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Mr. Metz has again betrayed his ignorance
ROTF,LMAO. You really are a piece of work. I;ve been playing around
with PL/I internals sice you were in diapers.
In 54b8fa04026d0017e...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/16/2015
at 09:46 AM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said:
You'll need to be a little more verbose. What about error recovery?
Does KVM on a bare LPAR have code to recover from I/O, memory and
processor failures? Does it have code to record
In
9736159315424469.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 01/16/2015
at 03:28 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
I have believed the OP is struggling with something causing him/her
to ask about RDW.
For one thing, the OP seems to believe that there is
In 4988215587123941.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/16/2015
at 07:16 AM, Tom Marchant
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Remember in the old days when we ran uniprocessors.
Indeed.
Every time one job accessed DASD, it had to wait for the I/O
operation to
In
of7a183342.9aaee2a3-on85257dcf.004a2e03-85257dcf.004a6...@us.ibm.com,
on 01/16/2015
at 08:32 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
I'd say that it is C that confused static with constant.
The ue of static and dynamic to refer to the allocaion tecnique rather
than to the variability of
In 54b8e4c0026d0017e...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/16/2015
at 08:15 AM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said:
For shops that have never run z/VM before, KVM could very well be
good enough to get started with virtualizing guests on System z.
What about error recovery?
--
Shmuel
In 6483038090933465.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/15/2015
at 09:31 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
It's more complicated than that.
To begin wth, well coded assembler routines will use DYNALLOC
directly.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.)
In 2185420056656673.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/15/2015
at 11:53 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Correctness is in the eye of the beholder. Which do you consider
correct, to DALPERM or not to DALPERM,
Both.
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In 0193913060908138.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/14/2015
at 04:46 PM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
But, ISTR reading long ago that DYNAMNBR is policed by the TSO
ALLOCATE command and that BPXWDYN is exempt from the limit.
The ALLOCATE
In r21fbatfr680vvqnnng4a87aqbpat77...@4ax.com, on 01/15/2015
at 11:12 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:25:30 -0500 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
:In 5vidba1s00e932fiphts1nu0tijahcu...@4ax.com, on 01/14/2015
: at 10:05
In 7102282945307177.wa.dlikensinfosecinc@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/14/2015
at 08:00 AM, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com said:
AMODE 64 routines should be using relative branch and generally
should establish addressability to a static data area
What if the code is shared? That goes
In 5vidba1s00e932fiphts1nu0tijahcu...@4ax.com, on 01/14/2015
at 10:05 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said:
What issues do you perceive sharing a STATIC data area?
One task overwritinf data used by another task.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
In
CAJTOO58yNL8wiF=5rhi8iwaweuarfm2wozo3z6eqk3t_ojr...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/13/2015
at 09:56 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
Now if they could pipeline both branches in the same core
Honeywell had a virtual multiprocessor way before then, CDC not much
later than Honeywell.
--
In 00f501d02e86$c4fb18f0$4ef14ad0$@newera.com, on 01/12/2015
at 10:42 AM, Jerry j...@newera.com said:
Yes, hyperthreading is Intel's name for SMT. It was first introduced
in 2002 in Pentium 4.
I might be willing to beleive 1957.
ObDumDaDumDum Only the names have been changed.
--
In 05ea01d02ddc$927328a0$b75979e0$@mcn.org, on 01/11/2015
at 12:24 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Logica was a professional service bureau with a
professionally-maintained z/OS.
FSVO,
They got breached.
How?
One might infer that other MVS sites, and not just those with
lax
In 050701d02c6d$4c43bef0$e4cb3cd0$@mcn.org, on 01/09/2015
at 04:35 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
A stitch in time saves nine.
Whoosh!
Let me rephrase that in simple terms. Have there been any successful
cracking attempts in the wild against real, present-day mainframes
that
In 54a2ddaa.2070...@acm.org, on 12/30/2014
at 11:15 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
I don't see any field so indicated in the basic PDS directory entry,
It doesn't belong there.
Have you compared the user data for two members, one packed and one
not?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In
CACdKjFpqNKTA-RkoTzgyOeRWxXwAWiGox-=y-cnyeefwfgi...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/30/2014
at 08:26 AM, Donald Russell russell@gmail.com said:
Thanks for any suggestions...
Does IEFSJSYM support (rname) or only (rnumber)?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position;
In
874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d12088e...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net,
on 01/05/2015
at 03:45 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com
said:
What is the point in trying to find a valid userid, if the userid
will be suspended after trying 3 invalid passwords (in our
situation)?
In 54aae54e.7060...@acm.org, on 01/05/2015
at 01:26 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
But, the password encoding in the RACF data base only becomes a
security issue if READ access to the RACF data base itself is not
properly restricted by RACF.
The ironic thing is that while I have never
In 047801d0291f$5efb31f0$1cf195d0$@mcn.org, on 01/05/2015
at 11:39 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
The fact is there have been several successful real hacks of
production mainframes, so some sort of real, present-day hacker
exposure is not unheard-of in the wild.
The Devil is in the
In 7536935054212770.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/29/2014
at 12:09 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said:
When we first started using the word microcode I believe it was
correct. Then we split the microcode into a burned-in part and a
loadable part, so the word came
In 6469079386912310.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/29/2014
at 10:44 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said:
Yes, lots of articles, and at the end of the day, you still have no
idea how the machine you have is implemented.
Well, we used to, back when customers could
In 9653880694947196.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/29/2014
at 11:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
If it's well enough documented one might write a filter to support
othe applications.
I suspect that there are 3rd party utilities that
In
ofc877ce3b.427af753-on80257dbd.0062c865-80257dbd.0062e...@uk.ibm.com,
on 12/29/2014
at 06:00 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
I suspect returning to that level of frankness would get you into
machine instruction timings - and all that goes with it. :-)
Those were already
In
84bccd71182f0046bcd2fb054fe5237917b2ee2...@hqmailsvr02.voltage.com,
on 12/27/2014
at 09:17 AM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com said:
This is fun. I'm not sure modern machines are both microcoded AND
millicoded-I thought millicode was just another form of microcode. Am
I wrong?
Yes; millicode
In
b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f467a3561...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.com,
on 12/25/2014
at 10:29 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
said:
A Count field with key and data lengths of zero is an EOF marker.
The key length is irrelevant; any record with a zero data length is
In
CAE1XxDE1FGTt0Xg9Aea1tDFUHiJhz8CsYh7WHCXe0t2TZqG=7...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/26/2014
at 05:25 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Equally, it could be argued that the FBA DASD used to emulate
ECDKD (sic) is in most cases not really 'spinning' DASD at all;
AFAIK that is not true yet,
In 20141226151929.4ae52b84c9b55d029a0d6...@gmx.net, on 12/26/2014
at 03:19 PM, ibmmain nitz-...@gmx.net said:
Both are input by forces outside of my control
Perhaps by management fiat, but that's not IBM's doing. Put a JOB
statement in an IEFJOBS member and IBM won't add another one.
I
In 3088409759181678.wa.mutazilahgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/15/2014
at 10:04 PM, Paul Edwards mutazi...@gmail.com said:
There is a TRANSMIT-equivalent called XMIT370,
Windoze only, or also Linux?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
In 549973cc.3040...@copper.net, on 12/23/2014
at 08:53 AM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said:
Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined?
Try 4.0 MVS Converter / Interpreter Text Processing in z/OS MVS
Installation Exits, SA22-7593
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.)
In
CAAJSdjjxBnsgrrVmXa1w5mKKB_3WSzDmjgWSZS70qmULa=i...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/16/2014
at 07:58 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
Yes, I can see how somebody could write a program which creates a
data set containing VBS segments which, combined, would exceed
that limit. But
In 3288864492454705.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/16/2014
at 01:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Why is this considered an error?
The buffer length had to fit in a signed[1] half word, and they didn't
change that when the large block
In 067f8f5c-2f07-412e-a715-1a6b7ce0b...@comcast.net, on 12/23/2014
at 10:20 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@comcast.net said:
I'm trying to invoke a clist which uses
Terminal input/output to read and display data
Would allocating and using SYSTSIN/SYSTSPRT substitute for The
terminal input and
In 06e101d01a60$3efa5480$bceefd80$@mcn.org, on 12/17/2014
at 05:16 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
I added a JOB statement and now I get an error on that also: IEFC019I
MISPLACED JOB STATEMENT
What is in MSTJCLxx? Where is the job member? What are its contents?
The documentation
In 004e01d01ae7$7de28870$79a79950$@mcn.org, on 12/18/2014
at 09:24 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
- You cannot use a JOB statement in a started PROC unless MSTJCL
DD IEFJOBS or IEFPDSI points to the PDS; mere inclusion in the
PARMLIB concatenation is not enough.
What are you
In
CAAJSdjjCgWxQP6XQg9iqjUEDtaKCK=ad_sxw4vmemgl0dp+...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/26/2014
at 09:45 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
//IEFPROC.IEFRDER (optional?)
Yes; START only generates it if a device name, volume serial number or
othe DD parameter is on the START command.
--
In
caarmm9spihcfyncf90+zehetejvq1ciyvwucc6k_ijvk6oj...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/18/2014
at 10:00 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
PL/I supported QTAM and later TCAM message queues as what a C or
Java person might call first class objects. Looked at another
way, such a teleprocessing
In 8d1e58fb6d10ea2-1864-43...@webmail-vd012.sysops.aol.com, on
12/14/2014
at 03:33 AM, Mitch 005d889cebf0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
said:
I am trying to follow what you are asking, but am unsure Are you
saying there is something in a JCL environment that should be
reported as an
In 20141221173446.fd8ed08264703ad3452c5...@gmx.net, on 12/21/2014
at 05:34 PM, ibmmain nitz-...@gmx.net said:
Nice summary, Peter. Do you happen to know who puts in //STARTING JOB
... when MEMBER is only contained in the JES2 proclib concatenation
and not in MSTJCL?
Presumably IEEVSTAR for
In
of6354b600.7395d730-on85257dae.0050c584-85257dae.00512...@us.ibm.com,
on 12/14/2014
at 09:46 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
What comes to mind (but I might be mis-thinking a bit) is that the
intent is that the OPER TSO command really should not be used;
that has been true for
In 06d401d01a5e$a7a0b6c0$f6e22440$@mcn.org, on 12/17/2014
at 05:05 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
I just added a JCLLIB statement to a cataloged procedure that I
start with a Start command. I am getting IEFC019I MISPLACED JCLLIB
STATEMENT. Should I infer that JCLLIB is not allowed
In
CAAJSdjjtjcYJvNeBgz7ZVZgt1p=4cSK42bM8o9B71WNyQ5=7...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/18/2014
at 08:35 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
I agree. But I will also mention that just using the word file
can now be confusing due to the addition of UNIX into z/OS.
Well, due to IBM's
In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c0261753e...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on
12/18/2014
at 03:48 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said:
While I agree that IEFJOBS makes it clearer and works better, you
can place started job JCL in the MSTJCL PROCLIB.
Yes, you can place a job in IEFPDSI, but the Devil
In 20141216105556.66da404ee6d280833b79b...@gmx.net, on 12/16/2014
at 10:55 AM, nitz-...@gmx.net nitz-...@gmx.net said:
These two make up the 6 byte
BDW+RDW is 8 bytes.
without exceeding geometry.
I've seen geometry used to refer to the number of tracks per
cylinder, but never for the length
In 002901d01953$e00d4390$a027cab0$@q.com, on 12/16/2014
at 09:15 AM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com said:
Isn't the RDW already included in the LRECL (VBA print files are 137
which leaves 133 for data which includes carriage control)? Isn't
the BDW always excluded from the LRECL
In 00b301d018c4$5b2655c0$11730140$@mcn.org, on 12/15/2014
at 04:08 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
I'm looking for a reasonable way to replace all occurrences of a
given string in a dataset.
Can you live with equal length replacements?
it has to be easier than writing a Rexx
In 549ab499026d0017d...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 12/24/2014
at 10:42 AM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said:
A quick Google search turned up this:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-pdf-document-management-tools-organizing-research/
How many of those tools will extract the document title and
In 5727780323951226.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/15/2014
at 07:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Are you using TRANSMIT or AMATERSE on MVS/380? I had
thought they were relatively new, probably licensed program
products, and not
Regular expressions (string, string1) in z/OS ISPF Edit and Edit
Macros, SC19-3621-00 has descriptions of +, * and ? containing
the phrase of the previous character; that is very different from
their usual meaning and leaves open the question of what happens if I
write, e.g., (subpattern)*. Is the
In 005901d01764$79b3f670$6d1be350$@gmail.com, on 12/14/2014
at 09:09 AM, Alan Watthey a.watt...@gmail.com said:
The change command is still missing one capability I would love to
see. The ability to set variables in the first parameter.
If you're going to ask for captures, why not go whole
In 54943155.4070...@trainersfriend.com, on 12/19/2014
at 07:08 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
On 12/19/2014 6:09 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:04:01 -0500, Hobart Spitz wrote:
Have you tried
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/library
In
caferoigrylcgrneqrrstd3cpz5k+r74kjzn4otmedhheg-1...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/18/2014
at 05:37 PM, Roger Bolan rogerbo...@gmail.com said:
The documentation itself is available in the new IBM Knowledge Center
and you can download PDF format for the books.
Yes, but what tools are available to
In
aa6ff5ba011f44418bf62c515f71757d2d553...@ch2wpexch1.na.ds.ussco.com,
on 12/18/2014
at 03:35 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said:
The structure of a DB2 table is imposed by the table
definition, just like the structure of a KSDS is imposed by
the DSECT (or HLL equivalent).
The table
In
cy1pr0101mb076351ce69bc7140c03659c2ce...@cy1pr0101mb0763.prod.exchangelabs.com,
on 12/13/2014
at 06:53 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
Since there's no actual WTOR, I cannot invoke a second REXX to
continue the conversation.
What are you trying to say? If you can
In 02e401d0165b$1239b070$36ad1150$@mcn.org, on 12/12/2014
at 02:29 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
I'm not sure that I hate JCL but I do know that JCL and USS do not
seem to be a happy marriage.
Well, JCL has nothing to do with USS and the error you got is typical
for any system that
In 6785654506445698.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/12/2014
at 04:46 PM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
I would be delighted if, rather, the parser reported a reference
to an undefined apparent symbol as a syntax error.
That would break
In 034a01d01666$19dbb9d0$4d932d70$@mcn.org, on 12/12/2014
at 03:48 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Sheesh! I've used IKJEFT01 before for various things but never had
problems like this.
I'm not surprised. The root cause is that you're constructing a batch
TSO jopb without checking
In 2213232902404204.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/12/2014
at 10:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Can the host determine the terminal's CCSID by such as a 3270 WSF
Query?
QUERY or QUERY LIST, provided that the GF bit is on in the query
In 7282308234662904.wa.jon.butlerfepoc@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/12/2014
at 11:20 AM, Jon Butler jon.but...@fepoc.com said:
Any thoughts?
What is an ISPF/PDF EDIT regular expression? POSIX RE? POSIX BRE? E,
none of the above?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
In ez-1315458279.1520887...@gmx.ch, on 12/10/2014
at 08:00 AM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said:
I didn't look at the I/O rate; just was mislead by the AWAITING(E2)
thinking that there is something to be done before JES2 starts
formatting. The message could be better.
The message could be
In 5483d3f5.9040...@copper.net, on 12/06/2014
at 11:13 PM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said:
I know of NOTHING using cores today.
Well, then you only know about machines designed in the last few
decades. But you can find some 1960's (1950's?) vintage machines in
museums.
How about
In 5483d485.5010...@copper.net, on 12/06/2014
at 11:16 PM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said:
We would still need to explain why JOB A works while JOB B, based on
JOB A, isn't working.
Obviously, because they are different. It may take some experimenting
to determine which differences
In 5480ca98.3040...@copper.net, on 12/04/2014
at 03:56 PM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said:
On 12/04/2014 03:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On 2014-12-04 12:35, Steve Thompson wrote:
SNIP
Like, what's the most efficient way to clear a register?
-- gil
SNIP
Well, mine is to pull the
In 5480d9dd.6000...@copper.net, on 12/04/2014
at 05:02 PM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said:
The one that does not work does pass to IKJEFT1B ISPSTART
cmd(%NCMPL and that's it. The rest of the parm string is NOT
passed.
What happedns if you surround the parameter with apostrophes,
In
CAAJSdjib6t_m-9iKZOshxHvXBz0=683tfnt-hu4jxfj01wg...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/05/2014
at 07:22 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
Hum, I was thinking more of the UNIX syslog daemon stuff.
Which is harder to parse than, e.g., SMF.
Wouldn't including both UTC local time in
In
ofdab2603e.ec1e6e90-on85257da6.0052641c-85257da6.0052c...@us.ibm.com,
on 12/06/2014
at 10:03 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
To the best of my knowledge, whether rightly or wrongly, neither the
LCT nor the SCTX has ever been considered a programming interface.
That matches my
In 5763756791911978.wa.andrew.metcalfebarclays@listserv.ua.edu,
on 12/05/2014
at 10:35 AM, Andrew Metcalfe andrew.metca...@barclays.com said:
The first of these is the alarming comment:
* ON ENTRY R10 POINTS TO THE LCT.
While that could certainly change without notice, it's been
In
caajsdjhqt77sx8xckcezrekvfbmgfo1vouxyd7w7zmn_prh...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/04/2014
at 08:06 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
But I've been thinking about the z/OS syslog for some reason
lately. Given what it was originally designed for, review by a
human, it is a decent
In 8675686473977785.wa.peterteneyckfarmfamily@listserv.ua.edu,
on 12/03/2014
at 01:51 PM, Peter Ten Eyck peter_tene...@farmfamily.com said:
It would seem that coding SYSUDUMP in the JCL and running LE with
something like TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) would be the way to go.
SYSUDUMP is fine as
In
caajsdjigfmpcacjfeyy+dt_hoaagxv97zjtayee3y6h_hq5...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/03/2014
at 01:36 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
I must somewhat disagree, or perhaps just partially. IPCS is great.
I really like it. But for batch cycle jobs, I would strongly
recommend a product
In 0765937696197027.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@listserv.ua.edu,
on 12/01/2014
at 01:25 AM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
I wondered how you might look at this request?
Sending related SYSOUT seems reasonable, even if it takes a little
more work, but sending arbitrary
In 8902901628988927.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
11/30/2014
at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Can this information be supplied from HLASM
Yes.
(but this would be harder for us to automate.)
Why can't you pass the necessary
In
CAE1XxDHQB8Mn99LQZcydqGc5QHGPR5HJC-bNPmv0H==um7c...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/30/2014
at 01:19 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
AINSERT is then used to
'save' them, and AREAD is used to put them into the output.
That's not even wrong! He needs a PUNCH or REPRO to get them into
the
In
CAE1XxDG4NRGnr2hk-=cdsgdxqs1nuv7ucbru4ntyy_ebkmx...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/01/2014
at 11:18 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
surpassingly obvious
It should have been obvious *before* you incorrrecvtly described the
roles in AINSERT and AREAD.
The AINSERTs and AREADs are needed to
In 7215641216907067.wa.supportdunnitsys@listserv.ua.edu, on
11/27/2014
at 07:34 AM, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. supp...@dunnitsys.com
said:
I read the manual. Why is this used?
Audit trail.
Why is this used? What are the pitfalls of relinking a load module
and dropping this value?
The
In 5478aec8.8020...@cbttape.org, on 11/28/2014
at 12:20 PM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org said:
uses BSAM with double buffers
I would expect QSAM with lots of buffers to outperform that, but it's
not that hard to do BSAM with lots of buffers.
To avoid such problems,
You might also want to
In
ofeeb22c6c.b200d94c-on48257d9e.002229fa-48257d9e.002d8...@sg.ibm.com,
on 11/28/2014
at 04:14 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com said:
Setting aside current pricing, what are the characteristics of
hard disks that make them better suited to particular use cases
than (modern, current)
In
376168951.588598.1416945455949.javamail.ya...@jws100196.mail.ne1.yahoo.com,
on 11/25/2014
at 07:57 PM, Ssemakula
007869450f9e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Hi,I am a newbie on this list, but an old IBM dog... I am looking for
the PC version of the old Wylbur editor.
There is
In
CAAJSdjgAWPxbUCR=czms7m6qx8hbbqwohpoc6upgro4rxkb...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/24/2014
at 08:05 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
As an aside, if possible, could you adjust your email software to
left justify your English text?
While I see extraneous blanks in his From: and To:
In
caajsdjifcetyukih8nywc22e9r5epqlvwdy1tm3uaiujsmk...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/21/2014
at 02:37 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
I think gil has more of a UNIX background. When you are used to
truly long lines, the z/OS use of 121 or 132 byte print lines can
be a real PITA.
In
CAFO-8toTThE4dNeA1xxZFRDByzWZts=m4sqst+6arue07gu...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/20/2014
at 01:49 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
Any guesses
We don't need no stinking guesses.
what STC *means*?
Started Task Control.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position;
In d1d2d7b9-9f67-4f4a-9e89-6e68e51cf...@gmail.com, on 11/20/2014
at 06:30 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
I'm interested in how easy it is to recompile a PL/I program for
64-bit when you have to explicitly specify bit widths on the types.
Your question has an assumption contrary
In
cacppn5zv0oxhtyzduualorbk_qupb4iytg8jgkkdhpohbkm...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/20/2014
at 10:49 AM, John Compton johnc.e...@gmail.com said:
Any suggestions gratefully received...
Write a WLM formatter, assuming that the format is documented.
Submit a requirement to IBM, with business case.
In
caajsdjh3gvsdewm25tn8qiwudxk+dxjbfbu3jxatpchskzn...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/20/2014
at 07:23 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
Why? Because somebody thought that using ISPF would make it better.
An *option* to use ISPF *does* make it better. However valuable the
ISPF panels
In 6847167582988560.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
11/18/2014
at 07:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
There's something wrong with this design: an underlying
assumption that no user will have two concurrent instances of
the TMP, and
In 45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf99ac1...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com,
on 11/19/2014
at 12:23 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@sas.com said:
Are there more than these three?
Yes, e.g., APPC.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
In ez-269135484.751380...@gmx.ch, on 11/19/2014
at 09:51 PM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said:
I have not seen an APPC initiator in action, so I can't remember
whether they will show as Annn or as S
My recollection is APPC and ASCH; that was long before 7 digit
job numbers
In 1624998193642608.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
11/19/2014
at 07:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
PL/I might be more likely,
Too late; it's already been done.
Note: the OP and I don't agree on much, but he's right about the
comparison
In 5005802501816556.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
11/19/2014
at 11:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
We have a product which we suggest to install in 3 CSIs: GLOBAL,
TARGET, DLIB. Recently a tester has complained that this is
cumbersome,
In 1088136532429178.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
11/17/2014
at 05:22 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:
A company that has to be dragged kicking and screaming into
acknowledging potential security exposures in its OCO code
release(s). Hmmm - wonder where I've heard that
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