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This may help answering your question.
http://secure-web.cisco.com
If you want to play with Hercules with something useful checkout the ZZSA
tutorial package that you can find at https://www.cbttape.org thanks to our
good friend Sam Golob:
File # 979 ZZSA Tutorial Package - complete setup to learn ZZSA
>From the README:
Instructions for using the
o the job you are applying for
(unless the job is in a shop that runs Hercules or is considering it).
Charles
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Hercules emulates IBM S/370 and successor hardware. You have to
install the operating system and software and data on top of it.
zCobol and zAsm emulates the hardware and operating system calls to
run user mode software. http://z390.sourceforge.net/zcobol/index.html
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On 2020-04-10 11:21 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote:
> The first time I ever encountered Hercules it was running z/OS 1.9 on an IBM
> employee's IBM-owned laptop.
My understanding is that IBM gener
This may help answering your question.
http://www.hercules-390.eu/hercfaq.html#1.01
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On 2020-04-10 11:21 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote:
The first time I ever encountered Hercules it was running z/OS 1.9 on an IBM
employee's IBM-owned laptop.
My understanding is that IBM generally considered IBM employees to be
licensed to run IBM software in the course of their work for IBM. So,
It's taken me until this morning, as this thread continues, to realize that
maybe I don't know what Hercules does after all. "Mainframe emulation", I'd
always heard, and supposed that meant that if I install Hercules on a PC
I'll be able to write REXX execs, write and submit JCL, create PDSs and
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:55:11 -0400, scott Ford w
On 2020-04-09 18:04, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:55:11 -0400, scott Ford wrote:
Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:08 PM Grant Taylor wrote:
On 4/8/20 1:13 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker wrote:
I've always wondered
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The issue is not whether IBM sanctions Hercules; in fact, IBM employees were
involved
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Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
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Didn't IBM, at one time, allow IBMers to use Hercules? Has that changed
Didn't IBM, at one time, allow IBMers to use Hercules? Has that changed?
Bob
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:55:11 -0400, scott Ford wrote:
>Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I woul
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On 4/9/20 10:55 AM, scott Ford wrote:
> Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
In my opinion, IBM will never sanction Hercules.
: Bringing up skills learned on z/OS Hercules in interview?
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never heard that it is
considered, or that IBM would like it to be considered, an illegal counterfeit.
Is there any ethical reason for that viewpoint? No, forget "ethical"; I gu
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It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would
achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting
Here is a thread about Year 2000 IBM 370/390/ESA and future z
emulators. FSI had been selling 390/ESA emulators through IBM, but
would not get a license to emulate z processors.
https://tech-insider.org/mainframes/research/2001/0308.html
PSI was trying to sell Itaniums running an emulator to run
On 4/9/20 5:23 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never heard that
it is considered, or that IBM would like it to be considered, an
illegal counterfeit. Is there any ethical reason for that viewpoint?
No, forget "ethical"; I guess I can make up my own
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:20:10 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would
>achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting in that you may
>then have marketable skills for a real z shop.
>
Testing programs for z-compatibility.
It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would
achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting in that you may
then have marketable skills for a real z shop.
You can run mainframe Linuxes without fear of the license police. RHEL and
SLES are battle-hardened
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robhbrid...@gmail.com (Bob Bridges) wrote:
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never
heard that it is considered, or that IBM would like it to
be considered, an
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never heard that it is
considered, or that IBM would like it to be considered, an illegal counterfeit.
Is there any ethical reason for that viewpoint? No, forget "ethical"; I guess
I can make up my own mind about that (and there'll never be a
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On 4/9/20 10:55 AM, scott Ford wrote:
> Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
In my opinion, IBM will n
On 4/9/20 10:55 AM, scott Ford wrote:
Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
In my opinion, IBM will never sanction Hercules.
I think that mentioning Hercules in the specific context of MVS 3.8j or
S/390 Linux or other free / non-licensed OSs is probably okay.
Doing so
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:55:11 -0400, scott Ford wrote:
>Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
>
>On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:08 PM Grant Taylor wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/20 1:13 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker wrote:
>>
>> > I've always wondered if it was a good idea bringing up
Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:08 PM Grant Taylor <
023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On 4/8/20 1:13 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker wrote:
> > Greetings!
>
> Hello,
>
> > I've always wondered if it was a good
On 4/8/20 1:13 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker wrote:
Greetings!
Hello,
I've always wondered if it was a good idea bringing up skills
acquired by using z/OS Hercules with a copy of 1.10 floating on the
internet?
I think it's always pertinent to bring up skills that you acquired on a
I would consider you to be a person who really likes to learn. I wouldn't
mention in an interview with IBM. When can you start?
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 05:24 SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker <
b-tuc...@live.com> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I've always wondered if it was a good idea bringing up skills
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Greetings!
I've always wondered if it was a good idea bringing up skills acquired by using
z/OS Hercules with a copy of 1.10 floating on the internet?
Has anyone heard of someone doing this during an interview? Or what would you
do/think if someone did this?
Thanks!
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