Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-14 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
-348-0237 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Mingee Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset Lionel, are all of the DCB values normal or cor

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread David Mingee
Mainframe Consulting 9206 Aintree Drive Indianapolis, IN  46250 317 288-9588  Home317 903-9455  Cell From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE d

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:34:32 +, David Mingee wrote: >Lionel, are all of the DCB values normal or correct, if not they can be >changed with PDS86.  > Knowing almost nothing about PDSE internals, I'd hesitate to change DCB attributes with a tool such as PDS86. Those attributes may be

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread David Mingee
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset IBM has always stated that you CANNOT share a PDSE outside SYSPLEX boundaries without a risk of corruption. It sounds like you did just that.  That's a big OOPS! -teD   Original Message   From: R.S. Sent:

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset If you could provide fuller error messages it might help. Subcode for 0f4. And any ibe-like messages. It might make more sense Lizette -Original Mes

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Discussion List Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset W dniu 2016-03-11 o 15:20, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) pisze: > We have shared dasd between two different sysplexes and grs is only within > each sysplex. How it broke I've no idea but suspect it was updated on each > side. It's the be

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
TSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset > >Liz - good to see you > >How should I do the copy? IEBCOPY fails as does ispf 3.3 as well as pds copy. > I can copy specific members but I don't know all the members that were added >after the backup was taken. Those m

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson >> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:08 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset >> >> I have the Serena program

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-03-11 o 15:20, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) pisze: We have shared dasd between two different sysplexes and grs is only within each sysplex. How it broke I've no idea but suspect it was updated on each side. It's the best method to corrupt PDSE. BTW: GRS won't help, because PDSE use XCF

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
9 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:12:09 -0600, Dyck, Lionel B. wrote: >What do y'all recommend when a PDSE goes bad and the IEBPDSE just reports that >it has a bad directory? I don't know how to fix it, but I am curious

Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:12:09 -0600, Dyck, Lionel B. wrote: >What do y'all recommend when a PDSE goes bad and the IEBPDSE just reports that >it has a bad directory? I don't know how to fix it, but I am curious as to what happened to it. Is the broken PDSE shared outside of the sysplex? -- Tom

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Clark Morris
o: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset > >I have the Serena program product version StarTool. FIXPDS is there for a >PDSE, but I don't have a broken data set to experiment with. The options are >fewer than for PDS largely because you

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset I have the Serena program product version StarTool. FIXPDS is there for a PDSE, but I don't have a broken data set to experiment with. The options

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-11 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
and when trying to access it the result is an Abend 0F4 :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset Haven't heard from JK in a while. PDS86 has fixpds command. I've used it on 100's of PDS's

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
copy to new file. See what is broken Lizette -Original Message- >From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> >Sent: Mar 10, 2016 11:19 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset > >Tried restore from backup

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Finnell
Haven't heard from JK in a while. PDS86 has fixpds command. I've used it on 100's of PDS's but not a PDSE. Might try on a unusable restored copy? In a message dated 3/10/2016 12:48:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, lionel.d...@va.gov writes: Are you saying I can back it up with DFDSS and

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Tom - how right you are - I've opened a PMR with IBM and am awaiting their response. Are you saying I can back it up with DFDSS and then try to restore it and it might work? -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) Mainframe

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Pinnacle
MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset Restore from backup? In a message dated 3/10/2016 12:12:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, lionel.d...@va.gov writes: What do y'all recommend when a PDSE goes bad and the IEBPDSE just reports that it has a bad directory? Lionel,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Delivery & Engineering Office: 512-326-6173 Cell: 925-348-0237 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Corrupt

Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Doug Fuerst
12:09 PM Subject: Corrupt PDSE dataset What do y'all recommend when a PDSE goes bad and the IEBPDSE just reports that it has a bad directory? Thanks -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infras

Re: Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Finnell
Restore from backup? In a message dated 3/10/2016 12:12:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, lionel.d...@va.gov writes: What do y'all recommend when a PDSE goes bad and the IEBPDSE just reports that it has a bad directory?

Corrupt PDSE dataset

2016-03-10 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
What do y'all recommend when a PDSE goes bad and the IEBPDSE just reports that it has a bad directory? Thanks -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200)

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-17 Thread Ambat Ravi
===start The dataset has a member which has all configuration Parms for a running STC This was updated when STC was up and running So This could be a reason for a possible corruption ? end=== Yes.

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-16 Thread Ambat Ravi
how about moving the members to a sequential file each ? - ravi. ps: never peek at another SYSPLEX's PDSEs ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-16 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:43 +0530 on 07/15/2015, Jake Anderson wrote about Re: Corrupt PDSE: Hi The dataset has a member which has all configuration Parms for a running STC This was updated when STC was up and running So This could be a reason for a possible corruption ? Why not move that member to a PDS

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Of Jake Anderson Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE Hi The dataset has a member which has all configuration Parms for a running STC This was updated when STC was up and running So This could be a reason for a possible corruption

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Corrupt PDSE Hello, I get below message when i try to access a PDSE dataset, but when I try to access the same Dataset from a different SYSPLEX it opens up. We do share the Dasd . IGW702I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful DESC:ND Structure

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Jake Anderson
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE Ibm Info on corrupted PDSEs: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II14252 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Jake Anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello, I get below message when i

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Look into the fact that you can't share PDSE's across SYSPLEX's. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Jake Anderson Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 17:31 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Corrupt PDSE Hello, I get below message when i try to access

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE PDSE's *CANNOT* be shared across SYSPLEX Boundaries

Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello, I get below message when i try to access a PDSE dataset, but when I try to access the same Dataset from a different SYSPLEX it opens up. We do share the Dasd . IGW702I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful DESC:ND Structure is corrupted LTK:

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Staller, Allan
PDSE's *CANNOT* be shared across SYSPLEX Boundaries. PDSE's *CAN* be shared within a SYSPLEX if the SMSPDSE* address spaces are running... HTH, snip I get below message when i try to access a PDSE dataset, but when I try to access the same Dataset from a different SYSPLEX it opens up. We do

Re: Corrupt PDSE

2015-07-15 Thread Roberto Halais
Ibm Info on corrupted PDSEs: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II14252 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Jake Anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I get below message when i try to access a PDSE dataset, but when I try to access the same Dataset from a different

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-26 Thread Hank Oerlemans
Hank Oerlemans, IBM Fault Analyzer From: Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 26/05/2015 11:48 Subject:Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU BTW

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-26 Thread Thomas Berg
) Interactive is 'manual.' Batch is 'automatic.' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hank Oerlemans Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-26 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Yea, it looks damaged to me too. I'd still recommend that you validate the integrity of the restored dataset, just to be safe. Mark Jacobs Thomas Berg mailto:thomas.b...@swedbank.se May 25, 2015 at 10:00 PM Tried

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Check the dataset on other systems. See if the error is consistent. How

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Three more questions. 1. Do you have all the required toleration maintenance applied on your

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Got a corrupt PDSE. Will throw the problem at some of the responsible sysprogs. But in the meantime I wonder if any of the esteem members of this list can give some hints leading to the cause. Got this when tying

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Could it have been shared(R/W) outside of a sysplex boundary? Mark Jacobs Thomas Berg mailto:thomas.b...@swedbank.se May 25, 2015 at 8:43 PM Got a corrupt PDSE. Will throw the problem at some of the responsible sysprogs. But in the meantime I wonder if any of the esteem members of this list

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
-MAIN Mark Jacobs - Listserv mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com May 25, 2015 at 9:09 PM Could it have been shared(R/W) outside of a sysplex boundary? Mark Jacobs Thomas Berg mailto:thomas.b...@swedbank.se May 25, 2015 at 8:43 PM Got a corrupt PDSE. Will throw the problem at some of the responsible

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Yea, it looks damaged to me too. I'd still recommend that you validate the integrity of the restored dataset, just to be safe. Mark Jacobs Thomas Berg mailto:thomas.b...@swedbank.se May 25, 2015 at 10:00 PM Tried on another prodsystem. Got this: IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Could it have been shared(R/W) outside of a sysplex boundary? Mark Jacobs Thomas Berg mailto:thomas.b...@swedbank.se May 25, 2015 at 8:43 PM Got a corrupt PDSE. Will throw the problem at some of the responsible sysprogs

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful If you take a physical dump of the dataset and send it into IBM

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
.' -Original Message- From: Thomas Berg Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Did run IEBPDSE, but no new info compared to the abend result I posted below: IGW699I PDSE Directory

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Three more questions. 1. Do you have all the required toleration maintenance applied

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
) Interactive is 'manual.' Batch is 'automatic.' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE

Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
Got a corrupt PDSE. Will throw the problem at some of the responsible sysprogs. But in the meantime I wonder if any of the esteem members of this list can give some hints leading to the cause. Got this when tying a browse from ISPF 3.4 (linecmd B): IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Mark Jacobs - Listserv mailto:mark.jac...@custserv.com May 25, 2015 at 9:09 PM Could it have been shared(R/W) outside of a sysplex boundary? Mark Jacobs Thomas Berg mailto:thomas.b...@swedbank.se May 25, 2015 at 8:43 PM Got a corrupt PDSE. Will throw

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Dan Little
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Yea, it looks damaged to me too. I'd still recommend that you validate the integrity of the restored dataset, just to be safe

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Thomas Berg
) Interactive is ‘manual.’ Batch is ‘automatic.’ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Little Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory

Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful

2015-05-25 Thread Dan Little
javascript:;] On Behalf Of Dan Little Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; Subject: Re: Corrupt PDSE - IGW699I PDSE Directory Validation Unsuccessful Sounds like oa45027. On Monday, May 25, 2015, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se