Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-13 Thread Mike Shaw
I worked @ Morino Associates with Dr. Artis around 1983-84. I was in TSO/MON development/support, he was Director of Analytic Systems (MICS). Anyway, I was there at work early one morning weekday and he happened to be there in the same room also working. Out of the blue he turns to me and says

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-13 Thread Phil Smith III
Karl S Huf wrote: >I would refer anyone genuinely interested in sibling pend to download and review Dr. H. Pat Artis's "Sibling Pend: Like a Wheel Within a Wheel" 1996 CMG paper (available to download at Dr. Pat's site http://www.perfassoc.com ). Thanks! I had seen that link but wasn't sure I

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/11/22 1:32 PM, Karl S Huf wrote: I would refer anyone genuinely interested in sibling pend to download and review Dr. H. Pat Artis's "Sibling Pend: Like a Wheel Within a Wheel" 1996 CMG paper (available to download at Dr. Pat's site http://www.perfassoc.com ). While the technology

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-11 Thread Karl S Huf
: [EXT] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal] This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you have verified this email is legitimate. Hi Phil, That is odd that there isn't more written about sibling

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-11 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Phil, That is odd that there isn't more written about sibling pend. IDK if solid state disk suffers to the same extent as spinning spindles but I would guess not. Short description is that typical disk array configuration was to take the disks and carve them up into a bunch of smaller

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
How many years? Well, I know a banking company which moves off mainframe. 10 years. They even claimed success, but... But still all the processing is being done on mainframe. And the money is spent on Windows servers. Hundreds. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
[IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Dave Barry [00a5644c6d08-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 5:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainfr

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-09 Thread Bob Bridges
My last three clients. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Gentlemen, when the enemy is committed to a mistake we must not interrupt him too soon. -Admiral Horatio Nelson */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent:

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-09 Thread Albertus de Wet
AND, wait for the first time there's an Asure outage, or a breech (remember "the cloud" does not take responsibility for this). You basically do it at your own risk. Which data-center manager is Fedex going to blame then? Good luck to them. Seem it numerous times! On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 07:19

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-09 Thread Bobbie Justice
Year 15 of the 3 year plan to move off the mainframe. Seems like I've heard that before. Oh yes, it will save us "x" amount of dollars. Of course we're going to spend 45 times the projected savings to get there, but that comes out of a different budget item so it's okay.

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread Joe Monk
>From 1995... https://books.google.com/books?id=L_AXQqZphvYC=PP93=PP93=fedex+cannot+get+off+the+mainframe=bl=RJK8q0mlHc=ACfU3U1Go2Rt2LmKmmx6rjISivUeRxhZpg=en=X=2ahUKEwi-ko6oser4AhX9KkQIHVutDp8Q6AF6BAgsEAM#v=onepage=fedex%20cannot%20get%20off%20the%20mainframe=false Joe On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/8/2022 2:53 PM, Dave Barry wrote: No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe "next year." Can't tell you how many folks I've met in the 11th year of their company's 3-year conversion off the mainframe... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-08 Thread Phil Smith III
Dave Barry wrote: >No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe "next year." What, you expected them to do it OVERNIGHT? I'm here all week. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread Dave Barry
[EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud CAUTION! This email originated outside of the organization. Please do not open attachments or click links from an unknown or suspicious origin. == Bit of a shock this one. FedEx are c

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-08 Thread Phil Smith III
Yeah, that "savings" seems unlikely given cost of cloud usage. But as someone noted, OpEx vs. CapEx, plus folks moving on before the excrement hits the rotating object, could explain it all. Rex Pommier wrote, in part: > I finally got a physical drive mapping from them and discovered it was

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-08 Thread Pommier, Rex
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal] Before "cloud" I worked with one government agency who moved from z/OS to "virtualisation on utility platform" - basically x86 on-prem. They found they needed mo

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2022-07-08 Thread Colin Paice
d this email in error, please > > immediately notify the sender and delete the email and any attachments > from > > your computer. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Bill Johnson > > Sent: Friday,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-08 Thread Bfishing
Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 6:46 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud > > This is hilarious. > > The datacenter is dead – at least according to FedEx, which announced > plans to cl

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

2022-07-08 Thread Bill Johnson
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 6:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud This is hilarious. The datacenter is dead – at least according to FedEx, which announced plans to close its

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2022-07-08 Thread Usher, Darrold
Johnson Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 6:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud This is hilarious. The datacenter is dead – at least according to FedEx, which announced plans to close its server farms and transition completely to the cloud

Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread Bill Johnson
.top 1% -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Bit of a shock this one. FedEx are closing all of their data c

Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread Bill Johnson
This is hilarious. The datacenter is dead – at least according to FedEx, which announced plans to close its server farms and transition completely to the cloud, where it hopes to save an estimated $400 million annually. The insinuation being the “cloud” will replace servers. When the reality

Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread Ronald Wells
And the winner is...top 1% -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Bit of a shock this one. FedEx

FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-08 Thread David Crayford
Bit of a shock this one. FedEx are closing all of their data centers and moving to Microsofts Azure Cloud. They are a massive mainframe customer and close friends of ours for a long time. We had one of their guys on the floor in our office working with us on solutions. Times are changing...