Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-29 Thread Phil Sidler
On Sat, 3 May 2014 23:09:01 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On 2014-05-02, at 12:04, Jousma, David wrote: As for your question, my suggestion is to instead of using IEBUPDTE statements, is to copy the entire source program, and make a SMPE Replacing an elegantly automated

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 3 May 2014 23:09:01 -0600 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: :On 2014-05-02, at 12:04, Jousma, David wrote: : As for your question, my suggestion is to instead of using IEBUPDTE statements, is to copy the entire source program, and make a SMPE usermod out of it with your

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 4 May 2014 09:10:57 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: If an ISV, i.e., not IBM, did this, there would be calls to change vendors. IBM should be treated equally and their feet should be held to the fire. Of course, there may be an unintended consequence of OCO. Yet I hear no calls to change

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-03 Thread Ed Gould
I think this might be APARable. Its worth a try. Ed On May 2, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Phil Sidler wrote: At one time I set up IEBUPDTE (or SMP/E USERMOD ++MACUPD) jobs to update some IBM sample programs before I used them to make it easier to tell what was updated from the supplied source and

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-05-02, at 12:04, Jousma, David wrote: As for your question, my suggestion is to instead of using IEBUPDTE statements, is to copy the entire source program, and make a SMPE usermod out of it with your changes added to it(sufficiently documented, of course). We already do this

IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Phil Sidler
At one time I set up IEBUPDTE (or SMP/E USERMOD ++MACUPD) jobs to update some IBM sample programs before I used them to make it easier to tell what was updated from the supplied source and possible make migration to new releases easier. Now, going to a new CICS release, the sample programs no

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Jon Perryman
It doesn't break compare. Just tell compare to ignore the sequence numbers (SEQ). Jon Perryman. From: Phil Sidler phil_sid...@hotmail.com At one time I set up IEBUPDTE (or SMP/E USERMOD ++MACUPD) jobs to update some IBM sample programs before I used them

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Phil Sidler
On Fri, 2 May 2014 09:35:35 -0700, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: It doesn't break compare. Just tell compare to ignore the sequence numbers (SEQ). That's SuperC? I don't see that option in the ISPF EDIT/VIEW COMPARE command.

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Jon Perryman
Both SUPERC SUPERCE support SEQ. For edit command COMP, you'll need to allocate DD SYSIN to a dataset containing the SEQ option and specify the SYSIN option on COMP. It's silly that IBM ignores the edit bounds but such is life. Jon Perryman. From: Phil

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives On Fri, 2 May 2014 09:35:35 -0700, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: It doesn't break compare. Just tell compare to ignore the sequence numbers (SEQ). That's SuperC? I don't see that option

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Phil Sidler
On Fri, 2 May 2014 10:18:08 -0700, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: Both SUPERC SUPERCE support SEQ. For edit command COMP, you'll need to allocate DD SYSIN to a dataset containing�the SEQ option and specify the SYSIN option on COMP. It's silly that IBM ignores the edit bounds but such

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-02 Thread Jousma, David
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Sidler Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IEBUPDTE alternatives At one time I set up IEBUPDTE (or SMP/E USERMOD ++MACUPD) jobs to update some IBM sample programs before I used them to make it easier to tell what was updated