Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 8:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Ah, of course you're right

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, of course you're right, I'd forgotten that. In ACF2 and Top Secret you can have UPDATE without READ, for example - it's needed only rarely, but it's possible with those two - not in RACF. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Lord, before I commit a sin, it seems to

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lou Losee Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread Lou Losee
obile > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of David Spiegel > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST question

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread David Spiegel
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Skip, My program does it in one call. Regards, David On 2020-07

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Skip, My program does it in one call. Regards, David On 2020-07-09 00:20, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > My experience with R

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread Tom Brennan
:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Bob, If was unfamiliar with assembler, I would not start by attempting to use RACROUTE macros, as the combination of the two is a lot to chew on IMO. RACSEQ is a TSO command/utility

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:04 PM Bob Bridges wrote: > I've been doing mainframe security for a few decades now, but I've never > learned IBM's version of assembler (I still have ambitions of doing that > eventually) so I may be mistaken about how RACROUTE works. But my > impression is that the

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-09 Thread David Spiegel
: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Bob, If was unfamiliar with assembler, I would not start by attempting to use RACROUTE macros, as the combination of the two is a lot to chew on IMO. RACSEQ is a TSO command/utility for RACF written by Bruce wells of IBM some

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-08 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Hochee Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Bob, If was unfamiliar

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-08 Thread Mike Hochee
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions Caution! This message was sent from outside your organization. I've been doing mainframe security for a few decades now, but I've never

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, Here is my RACROUTE program from CBT File 836: RACROUTE TITLE 'RACROUTE STATUS=ACCESS' * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * *    Author:   David Spiegel * *    Update:   Sam Golob  - June 17, 2020 *  Return words instead of only

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-08 Thread Bob Bridges
I've been doing mainframe security for a few decades now, but I've never learned IBM's version of assembler (I still have ambitions of doing that eventually) so I may be mistaken about how RACROUTE works. But my impression is that the question the OS asks the security system might look like

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, "...  But if you want to know all the kinds of access you have, you'd need to ask the question three or four times, for read, update, execute and create. ..." This statement is not true. I published an Assembler program and a Rexx Exec here on June 14. My program has been placed on

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-07 Thread Bob Bridges
Nothing useful to say about your first question, but about the second: I can think of two ways to pull your access information for a list of datasets. 1) Query the system about which security app is running (RACF, ACF2 or TSS), then issue the commands and parse the output. Display only the

Re: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-07 Thread Lionel B Dyck
hink you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions I have some questions about the ISPF 3.4 utility. 1. Why does 'Referred' show

ISPF 3.4 DSLIST questions

2020-07-07 Thread Tim Hare
I have some questions about the ISPF 3.4 utility. 1. Why does 'Referred' show on the "total" display for datasets, but if you print the dataset list, you don't get it? 2. Are there ways to extend what is displayed? For one example: I would like to have column for 'Your Access' that would