Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-08 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 19:33:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >My understanding is that he needs ISPF services in his application. Then he is probably not going to be able to get it to run, safely and with integrity, under TSO/E. It will need a multi-address space implementation unless he's very lu

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-08 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:45:14 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: >But if I TSOEXEC CALL the Cobol I/O routine, will it retain the context >between calls? Won't the DCBs and ACBs and working storage be reinitialized >on every call? You need to TSOEXEC CALL the main COBOL program. It must run isolated,

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:29:05 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: >One further question: > >Would use of IKJEFTSI/IKJEFTSR/IKJEFTST work here? I.e., provide an >isolated eenvironment for RACF while

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-07 Thread Steff Gladstone
But if I TSOEXEC CALL the Cobol I/O routine, will it retain the context between calls? Won't the DCBs and ACBs and working storage be reinitialized on every call? בתאריך יום ה׳, 7 במרץ 2019, 02:34, מאת Walt Farrell ‏: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:29:05 +0200, Steff Gladstone < > steff.gladst...@gmail.

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 17:26:56 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >ATTACH by an unprivileged application cannot change the authority and >privileges of the address space. TSOEXEC passes the request to the Terminal >Monitor >Program (TMP), which sets the unauthorized tasks nondispatchable before >attac

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:29:05 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: >One further question: > >Would use of IKJEFTSI/IKJEFTSR/IKJEFTST work here? I.e., provide an >isolated eenvironment for RACF while maintaining continuity within the I/O >routine without re-initializing its working storage on each call?

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:01:25 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: > >This works ok for privileged users (i.e., the subtasking and I/O logic >works fine, the COBOL I/O routine is not reintiaiized on each call, and of >course there are no RACF issues). But for non-privileged users RACF issues >the follo

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:01:25 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: > >The COBOL I/O routine is called by a fairly complex TSO/ISPF application. >So we decided to communicate to the I/O routine via a subtask in order to >simplify the environment (as per Walt Farrell's claim that a new TCB >creates a paral

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steff Gladstone Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application One further question: Would use of IKJEFTSI/IKJEFTSR/IKJEFTST

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
, 2019 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application Although we have progressed with creating an program-controlled environment, we are still experiencing problems in this area. We have a COBOL routine whose purpose is

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Steff Gladstone
One further question: Would use of IKJEFTSI/IKJEFTSR/IKJEFTST work here? I.e., provide an isolated eenvironment for RACF while maintaining continuity within the I/O routine without re-initializing its working storage on each call? On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:01, Steff Gladstone wrote: > Although

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-03-06 Thread Steff Gladstone
Although we have progressed with creating an program-controlled environment, we are still experiencing problems in this area. We have a COBOL routine whose purpose is to open a VSAM data set on the first call, perform I/O (read and write) on subsequent calls, and finally close the dataset on the f

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 15:22:33 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >AFAIK it won't reset the dirty bit. It does isolate AC(0) from AC(1). Yes, it will, for that isolated parallel environment. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:51:23 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: >Do I understand correctly that TSOEXEC CALL creates a new subtask >environment which is "insulated" from the goings-on in the mother task? Yes. The parallel environment established by TSO/E via TSOEXEC would be clean, even if the orig

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application Do I understand correctly that TSOEXEC CALL creates a new subtask environment which is "insulated" from the goings-on in the mother task? Would specifying TASKLIB further ensure

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Using the term "RACF-authorized" is incorrect in this context.   All modules loaded in the address space must be program-controlled (not authorized), which means they must be covered by a PROGRAM profile that includes a group member for the dataset from which they were loaded.    The fact that a mo

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-20 Thread Steff Gladstone
Do I understand correctly that TSOEXEC CALL creates a new subtask environment which is "insulated" from the goings-on in the mother task? Would specifying TASKLIB further ensure that only those modules loaded/linked/attached from the TASKLIB library need be RACF-authorized? Or is there something I

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application And I forgot to mention, in addition to statically allocated STEPLIB, for TSO/ISPF I believe you also need to include static ISPLLIB allocations. Joel C Ewing On 2/18/19 11:37 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > PADS was

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-18 Thread Joel C. Ewing
st on behalf of > Joel C. Ewing > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [SPAM] Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a > particular application > > Unless things have changed, in order for RACF program-controlled

Re: [SPAM] Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SPAM] Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application Unless things have changed, in order for RACF program

[SPAM] Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-18 Thread Joel C. Ewing
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >> >> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf >> of Steff Gladstone >> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:37 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: RACF: Limiting update-author

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-18 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:05:59 +0200, Steff Gladstone wrote: >Ok. We have been playing around with program control.If PROG1 (a COBOL >program incidentally) is to be allowed exclusively to update file MY.FILE, >then we: > >1. introduced PROG1 into the list of programs in AUTHPGM in member IKJEF

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Discussion List on behalf of Steff Gladstone Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application Ok. We have been playing around with program control.If PROG1 (a COBOL program incidentally) is

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-17 Thread Steff Gladstone
gt; > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Steff Gladstone > Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 6:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: RACF: Li

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
-authorization of a file to a particular application On 2/7/19 5:57 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Steff Gladstone wrote: > > Please consider subscribing to RACF-L at > http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html > > >> We have an TSO application for end-users that allow

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-07 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 2/7/19 5:57 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Steff Gladstone wrote: > > Please consider subscribing to RACF-L at > http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html > > >> We have an TSO application for end-users that allows them to update certain >> VSAM and PDS files. In order for them to update

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application Greetings, We have an TSO application for end-users that allows them to update certain VSAM and PDS files. In order for them to update these files we of course have to give their users update-authorization

Re: RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steff Gladstone wrote: Please consider subscribing to RACF-L at http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html >We have an TSO application for end-users that allows them to update certain >VSAM and PDS files. In order for them to update these files we of course have >to give their users update

RACF: Limiting update-authorization of a file to a particular application

2019-02-07 Thread Steff Gladstone
Greetings, We have an TSO application for end-users that allows them to update certain VSAM and PDS files. In order for them to update these files we of course have to give their users update-authorization under RACF for those files. We want to limit their ability to update the files only vi