On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 12:52:32 -0800, Ed Jaffe
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>On 12/21/2022 1:20 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but
>> without having to open and close it?
>
>PARTREL.
>
>It *requires* that the data set NOT be open...
>
... And numerous other restri
On 12/21/2022 1:20 AM, David Cole wrote:
Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but
without having to open and close it?
PARTREL.
It *requires* that the data set NOT be open...
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:40:25 +, rpinion865 wrote:
>Yes
>
Some sites choose to alias ISV products to the names of the comparable
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On Dec 23, 2022, 12:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:08:31 -0600, Michael Babcock wrote: >Not everyone
> licensed for DFSMSdss. > Do alternatives (FDR?) provide comparable, perhaps
> compatible functions?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:08:31 -0600, Michael Babcock wrote:
>Not everyone licensed for DFSMSdss.
>
Do alternatives (FDR?) provide comparable, perhaps compatible functions?
>> At 12/21/2022 07:43 AM, Ituriel do Neto wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >ADRDSSU has a RELEASE primary command that can do it.
>> >
>> >
Not everyone licensed for DFSMSdss.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 10:55 AM David Cole wrote:
> Hi Ituriel,
>
> That's exactly what I was looking for!
>
> Thank you,
> Dave Cole
>
>
>
>
> At 12/21/2022 07:43 AM, Ituriel do Neto wrote:
> >Hi,
> >ADRDSSU has a RELEASE primary command that can do it.
> >
Hi Ituriel,
That's exactly what I was looking for!
Thank you,
Dave Cole
At 12/21/2022 07:43 AM, Ituriel do Neto wrote:
Hi,
ADRDSSU has a RELEASE primary command that can do it.
//S1 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//* PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN D
mber 22, 2022 1:42 AM
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> Subject: RLSE - A question about releasing unused tracks in a DASD dataset
>
> Dave Gibney wrote:
> >The F line command from ISPF 3.4
>
> David Cole wrote:
> >Thanks Dave. I hadn't thought of that. Unfortunately,
>> But it probably would be simpler if I could discover the program that the F
>> line command on a 3.4 display runs under the covers. Do you know of any way
>> to discover that?
Dave,
I believe someone already suggested using ADRSSU and here is a JCL which frees
up the space
// EXPORT SYMLIS
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:42:00 +, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
>I think Seymour alluded to this already, but (for future reference at least)
>here's how you can drive ISPF commands from batch programs:
>
>https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/how-use-ispf-batch
>
Yow! IBM ought to supply this as a PRO
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Browsing the CBT documentation file (I may not have the latest version), I
found this (note that Nigel Morton had previously suggested the use of the
PARTREL macro):
//***FILE 959 is from
lf of
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Dave Gibney wrote:
>The F line command from ISPF 3.4
David Cole wrote:
>Thanks Dave. I hadn't
Thanks, Tim. This is new to me.
I read it over, but I did not see right away how
to issue a line command (such as an F at the
left) in the batch. When I get a chance, I'll
delve a little deeper and try some tests.
But it probably would be simpler if I could
discover the program that the F l
Dave Gibney wrote:
>The F line command from ISPF 3.4
David Cole wrote:
>Thanks Dave. I hadn't thought of that. Unfortunately, this has got to
>run in the batch (either normally or within batch TSO), so issuing a
>shortcut command interactively would not work for me.
I think Seymour alluded to thi
it to her/him off list. The original program was written by
> > someone else, and I made a few modifications to get it to work in
> > the environment I was currently in. It uses the ULU macros created
> > by Sam Golob, for UCB lookup.
> >
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 04:20:27 -0500, David Cole wrote:
>...
>Or if opening/closing is required, is there a way to do that for a
>PDS without knowing (or discovering) what members are in it, and
>without creating a new member?
>
What happens if you do an LMPUT then exit without an LMMREP,
which
~smetz3
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> Thanks Dave. I hadn't thought of
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Thanks Dave. I hadn't thought of that. Unfortunately, this has got to
run in the batch (either normally
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The DADSM PARTREL macro might do this although the documentation isn't
explicit. I have a vague recollection that what you ask is possible and
that this might be the underlying service needed.
It is used by DFSMSdss RELEASE so should be easily testable.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 09:23, David Cole w
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 04:20:27 -0500, David Cole wrote:
>Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but
>without having to open and close it?
>
Does it need to be opened for Write? If not, override to DSORG=PS and
copy the directory to NULLFILE.
--
gil
Have a look at the DADSM PARTREL macro. I have a recollection from long ago
that a service to release free space without opening a data set (and so
updating the last use and last reference date) had been made available and I
suspect this might be it.
It's used by the DFSMSdss RELEASE command so
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Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but
without having to open and close it?
Or if opening/closing is required, is there a way to do that for a
PDS without knowing (or discovering) what members are in it, and
without creating a new member?
Obviously, I could write s
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