Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 May 2022 12:52:20 +, Allan Staller wrote: >Classification: Confidential > Whom should I not tell? >NO. IEFBR14 will allocate the space. However the dataset will not be opened. > That phrasing is so direct that I'll concur with Shmuel. IEFBR14 will neither allocate space nor

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 May 2022 12:33:20 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >IEFBR14 does not allocate anything. The Initiator physically allocates a new >DASD dataset before invoking the jobstep program, ... > Is that a valuable clarification (despite having been stated here repeatedly) or needless

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-13 Thread Allan Staller
rned > something. :-) > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques > > G

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of CM Poncelet [03e99a92061c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 11:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques I could be wrong, but I had the vague impression that allocating datasets via

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread CM Poncelet
>>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:30 PM >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Te

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread Mike Schwab
t appear to be the case. So even in my > > old age I learned something. :-) > > > > Rex > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:30 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@L

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread CM Poncelet
he case. So even in my old > age I learned something. :-) > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potenti

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Obviously, I'm not a baseball fan . -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. (CTR) Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques [External Email

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques Woohoo, I finally said something on IBM that is of benefit to someone else. I think I will take

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread Mike Schwab
ge- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques > > Great technique. What utility or JCL is being used, if the dataset is

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
, 2022 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] David, My point was that if you allocate the dataset with a very small primary and large secondary

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-12 Thread Pommier, Rex
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques Great technique. What utility or JCL is being used, if the dataset is not opened then RLSE does not happen

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
LOL, this is one of those sure-fire and then throw gasoline on ibm-main threads of the class: "Here are some historical things about MVS that you probably didn't know" Keep um, coming :-) -- Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Michael Oujesky > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 3:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques > > Model DSCB no longer required f

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread Michael Oujesky
Model DSCB no longer required for SMS managed. Michael At 04:59 PM 5/11/2022, Gibney, Dave wrote: Creation of new GDSs also needed a model DSCB. Well before I started working here (41 years come August), the Sysprogs of the time wrote PGM=OPENCLSE. Which scanned the TIOT for =C'DD',

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
the impact. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques > Great technique. What utility

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread
: Potential Resource Savings Techniques David, Here's another solution to that scenario. We have several datasets that historically got allocated like you show here on a nightly basis. The jobs would either populate the datasets or not even open them. I had the developer change the JCL

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Even better yet, code SPACE=(CYL,(0,500),RLSE) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 5:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques [External Email. Exercise

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread Pommier, Rex
David, Here's another solution to that scenario. We have several datasets that historically got allocated like you show here on a nightly basis. The jobs would either populate the datasets or not even open them. I had the developer change the JCL to allocate them with