Search a z/OS release's publications for Module Search Order and you will find
this match:
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As with many things, there are techniques and subtleties that can affect what
happens.
For example, you can bypass the search of
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 02:26:39AM -0500, Willy Jensen wrote:
> I for one would be sorry to see the STEPLIB program from CBT file 452 go
> away. I find it very useful for packaging applications in separate set of
>
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 02:26:39AM -0500, Willy Jensen wrote:
> I for one would be sorry to see the STEPLIB program from CBT file 452 go
> away. I find it very useful for packaging applications in separate set of
> libraries and then use ISPF LIBDEFs, TSO ALTLIB and the STEPLIB program
> to make
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:15:10 -0700 Michael Stein wrote:
:>* C. IF THE DCB OPERAND WAS OMITTED IN THE MACRO
:>* INSTRUCTION, THE JOB LIBRARIES FOR ASCENDING
:>* ORIGINATING TCB'S (IF JOB LIBS EXIST) ARE SEARCHED
:>* UNTIL THE
I for one would be sorry to see the STEPLIB program from CBT file 452 go away.
I find it very useful for packaging applications in separate set of libraries
and then use ISPF LIBDEFs, TSO ALTLIB and the STEPLIB program to make the
neccessary allocations. Sadly ISPLLIB has severe limitations and
Thanks to Jim Mulder and Tom Marchant for correcting my post.
I was perhaps thinking of the STEPLIB "tool" when I mentioned TSOLIB.
As Jim pointed out, TSOLIB does utilize the ATTACH with TASKLIB approach.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
Hi Paul,
You said: "...What is the motivation for using CBT 452 STEPLIB, ever?
Should CBT
withdraw 452 from circulation? ..."
The CBT Tape is useful for programming techniques, even if the code
isn't actually used.
No, it should not be withdrawn.
Are you trying to censor it?
Regards,
David
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:58:15 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:49:08 +, Jim Mulder wrote:
>
>> Yes, TSOLIB is part of TSO/E and is correctly implemented by ATTACHing
>> subsequent commands with a TASKLIB.
>>
>TASKLIB should not depend on TSO/E
It doesn't. It is used
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 02:38:44PM -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Are comments in the source of 3.8 the best available documentation?
They might be out of date, but requirements of compatiblity and the cost
to IBM of changes make them somewhat relevant. They're easily accessible
the other choice
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:15:10 -0700, Michael Stein wrote:
>
>> Does reaching TCBJSTCB stop the search of the JLBs?
>
>from MVS3.8 source of IEAVLK01
>
Are comments in the source of 3.8 the best available documentation?
>*...
>* A. THE CONTENTS DIRECTORY ENTRIES (CDES) FOR
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 06:49:26PM +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> I am trying to do the equivalent of TSOLIB for BATCH, i.e., dynamically adding
> loadlibs. I do not have spare parent tasks that I can hang a JLB DCB.
> Does reaching TCBJSTCB stop the search of the JLBs?
from MVS3.8 source of
Or please provide references to docs, articles etc. that could explain it to
the rest of us.
Thanks
An ignorant STEPLIB user
mkk
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:32:59 -0400, David Spiegel
wrote:
>Hi Jim,
>Why is "STEPLIB" dangerous?
>Please explain in detail.
>
>Thanks and regards,
>David
>
>
>On
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:49:08 +, Jim Mulder wrote:
> Yes, TSOLIB is part of TSO/E and is correctly implemented by ATTACHing
> subsequent commands with a TASKLIB.
>
TASKLIB should not depend on TSO/E and should satisfy the OP's need.
Are TSOLIB and TASKLIB inherited alike by grandchild
On 7/19/2023 11:32 AM, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Jim,
Why is "STEPLIB" dangerous?
Please explain in detail.
Thanks and regards,
David
He is not referring to the //STEPLIB DD statement, he is referring to
the old STEPLIB command.
There might actually be more than one version of STEPLIB
ie NY
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom
Marchant
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 10:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch
Peter,
I'm a little over my head on this, but isn't TSOLIB in TSO implemented with
TASKLI
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch
Peter,
I'm a little over my head on this, but isn't TSOLIB in TSO implemented with
TASKLIB on ATTACH?
--
Tom Marchant
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:04:12 +, Peter Relson wrote:
>Scary stuff being asked about. Certainly the
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:04:12 + Peter Relson wrote:
:>Scary stuff being asked about. Certainly there is nothing that is supported
(and that likely includes whatever TSOLIB does and whatever is on the CBT
tape), and nothing that won't put your customer at risk (including possibly
Peter,
I'm a little over my head on this, but isn't TSOLIB in TSO implemented with
TASKLIB on ATTACH?
--
Tom Marchant
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:04:12 +, Peter Relson wrote:
>Scary stuff being asked about. Certainly there is nothing that is supported
>(and that likely includes whatever
Hi Pete,
You said: "...Certainly there is nothing that is supported (and that
likely includes whatever TSOLIB does ..."
It seems as if you're saying that TSOLIB (distributed with z/OS) is
potentially not supported.
Did I misunderstand?
Please explain.
Thanks and regards,
David
On 2023-07-19
Scary stuff being asked about. Certainly there is nothing that is supported
(and that likely includes whatever TSOLIB does and whatever is on the CBT
tape), and nothing that won't put your customer at risk (including possibly
introducing system integrity problems).
TASKLIB on ATTACH is the
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:58:54 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>It is pure batch, which may have only the single task.
>
If it's pure batch, with only a single task, code STEPLIB in JCL.
If it's Assembler with multiple tasks, code TASKLIB in the ATTACH MACRO.
What environment prevents this?
>On
If I was using TSO in batch it would be quite easy. There are many parent
tasks available.
It is pure batch, which may have only the single task.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 10:53:23 -0500 "Lionel B. Dyck" wrote:
:>I'm assuming (and I know the danger of doing that) that you are using TSO in
:>batch
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH,
Please see CBT File 452 (and 797).
Regards,
David
On 2023-07-18 11:49, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
I am trying to do the equivalent of TSOLIB for BATCH, i.e., dynamically adding
loadlibs. I do not have spare parent tasks that I can hang a JLB DCB.
It appears that the system is
I'm assuming (and I know the danger of doing that) that you are using TSO in
batch since you mention TSOLIB.
Check out the STEPLIB command on www.cbttape.org in file 452. If nothing
else you can look at the source code to see how it does it.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
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