Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-14 Thread Kirk Talman
From: Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com At UK GSE in November, one of the opening presenters was Tomas Kadlec, from Tesco - a very large Wal-Mart-like retailer in Europe. He presented an interesting slide show I remember fondly having Tesco as a client decades ago. We were always

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-08 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 1/7/14 3:05 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? Can you do SSL connection on those toys? [1] ALL of the iOS and Android devices that

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? Can you do SSL connection on those toys? [1] [1] - I have a free TN3270 client [2] on my iPhone 5 and connected it via a SSL port using

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Denis Gäbler
10:05 am Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Timothy Sipples wrote: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? Can you do SSL connection on those toys? [1] [1] - I have a free TN3270

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread David Crayford
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:05 am Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Timothy Sipples wrote: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Mark Hammond
You might want to put this issue to the IMS list. im...@imslistserv.bmc.com Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sanya Off Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Mark Hammond
: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Hello, One option is to modernize (convert/migrate) the application(s) to a more updated environment (Windows SQL/Server, UNIX Oracle, etc.). Through the use of a proven automated tool suite set, this can be done via a relatively quick

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 16:56 -0500, Sanya Off wrote: I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based monster application more friendlier to users and developers: We use Rocket's Legasuite screen scraper. (And do

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajb5jbtq_vynhg012mbaqvk4sfy+uwuehprfqvbx7hty4zi...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/06/2014 at 04:56 PM, Sanya Off sanya...@gmail.com said: I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based monster application more

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Take a look at IMS connect which enables API for Java or C code. You will need a good understanding of your IMS database structures On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Sanya Off sanya...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards to

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Mitch
Hello, One option is to modernize (convert/migrate) the application(s) to a more updated environment (Windows SQL/Server, UNIX Oracle, etc.). Through the use of a proven automated tool suite set, this can be done via a relatively quick and complete process using a vendor I partner with. If

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
As usual, it depends on how far forward the original monster application' designers looked (or not...). If the core business logic is separated from the presentation layer (i.e., if the business logic is well separated from the 3270 screen processing logic), it might be possible to directly

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Mitch
to an LUW environment. Regards, Mitch -Original Message- From: Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:51 pm Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application As usual, it depends on how far forward

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread David Crayford
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:51 pm Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application As usual, it depends on how far forward the original monster application' esigners looked (or not...). If the core business logic is separated from the presentation layer (i.e., if the business

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
, FSVO success. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mitch Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Peter (et al): I have only one

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
This might be a better topic on IMS Newsgroup. They may have ideas to make an old app look new. Also, be aware of any SLAs or performance concerns. Going to a server platform (LUW) might not always provide the best service. How many servers will it take to replace one mainframe? What are the

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/6/2014 3:22 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: IBM updated the old IBMLINK (VM) to a web based environment. And we are still complaining about performance, service, downtime of the application. We did not complain when it was the VM system. And they have spent and continue to spend $ millions to

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Finnell
Something about silk purse and sow's ear comes to mind, but it may just be the cold! In a message dated 1/6/2014 5:33:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: continue to spend $ millions to make it right

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 1/6/2014 5:22 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: This might be a better topic on IMS Newsgroup. They may have ideas to make an old app look new. Also, be aware of any SLAs or performance concerns. Going to a server platform (LUW) might not always provide the best service. I am not sure SLA's

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Sanya Off
Tnx folks. I did my homework before spilling my mail here. So i am aware of multiple approaches. I am still lokking for thr personal experiences. And. This is a 30 y.o. app On Jan 6, 2014 6:40 PM, Richard Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu wrote: On 1/6/2014 5:22 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: This

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Scott Ford
Maybe you work on explaining what you are trying to do, more than a few words is highly helpful Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Sanya Off sanya...@gmail.com wrote: Tnx folks. I did my homework before spilling my mail here. So i am aware of

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/6/2014 5:31 PM, Sanya Off wrote: Tnx folks. I did my homework before spilling my mail here. So i am aware of multiple approaches. I am still lokking for thr personal experiences. And. This is a 30 y.o. app At UK GSE in November, one of the opening presenters was Tomas Kadlec, from Tesco

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
I'd like to ask a few simple questions as follow-up since the answers should help narrow the range options down substantially: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? 1B. Is there a requirement to