I can't answer your specific query, but when I added the hyperref package,
TOC entries became links, and I could add http: and mailto: links, such as
as
\href{http://www.latex-tutorial.com}{LaTeX-Tutorial} and I suspect there is
syntax for an internal \href that I haven't found yet. I have used
Yeah, this looks like it'll help, thanks. I downloaded that package (and a
~bunch~ of styles came with it), but then got hung up on trying to modify
the way it displays chapter headings; that, I gather, is the titlesec
package, for which the documentation is truly execrable. I'll be back to
Is this what you're looking to do?
https://latex-tutorial.com/tutorials/hyperlinks/
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LaTeX documentation i downloaded:
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\aliascnt.pdf
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\array.pdf
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\babel\babel.pdf
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\babel\english.pdf
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\babel\README
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\babel\README.md
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\backref.pdf
m:\pdf\ctan\latex\biblatex.pdf
Does this help?
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/581529/hyperlinks-to-a-separate-pdf-document
On Sun, Jan 1, 2023, 10:21 Bob Bridges wrote:
> Back to markup languages: How do I get LaTex to create internal links? Or
> external links either, for that matter?
>
> I now have a copy of
I am definitely planning to write macros ... eventually. Clients pay me to
work in z/OS security, but I'm a coder at heart (so most of my security work
is writing tools to automate my work and others'). But just now I'm busy
with the basics: page margins, section formatting, that kind of thing;
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Shmuel,
Peter is asking why you called WordPerfect "word pervert". I'm guessing it was
an autocorrect thing...
Rex
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It may be horses for courses...
1. What needs to be supported Windows/Mac
DU
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Actually, it's m$ word that I criticize. Not that WP didn't have serious
issues, but IMHO it is clearly the better of the two products. But I had access
to BookMaster when I was using WP.
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...
>
> You can tell how old I am when my brain thinks of ":p:h1 " when
> marking up a
Yes, I suspect that once I know a good deal more about LaTeX I'll be creating a
new class in a file named docrhb.cls. But I'm nowhere near that yet. For now
I'm still experimenting with {report} just so I can see what the various
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In fact I think TeXworks on Win came with texlive (install-tl-windows.exe).
On Tue, 27 Dec 2022, 11:59 Rupert Reynolds, wrote:
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> Installed 'texlive' on Linux Mint and TeXworks on Windows and it all seems
> to work pretty well :-)
>
> So thanks for a good thread.
>
> Roops
>
On Tue, 27 Dec 2022, 08:23 Colin Paice, wrote:
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>
> You can tell how old I am when my brain thinks of ":p:h1 " when
> marking up a document
>
> Colin
>
Yes, those GML tags still come to mind. In my head I also ".kp on" and ".kp
off" around sections I want to keep together on one
I used an early version of Word for Windows for writing
a 1,000-page document. No mark-up language required.
It also produced automatically the index.
When I wanted to put more entries in the index,
it was a minute's work. Then press F8 and the entire index
was regenerated as a Word document
t;>
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On 27/12/22 10:43, Ed Jaffe wrote:
My team uses https://vuejs.org/. At the moment we only build HTML but
there are packages to render a multitidue of different formats
including PDF, word docs etc. Extensions are written in Typescript or
Javascript so there is a massive eco-system to pull
On 12/26/2022 6:17 PM, David Crayford wrote:
My team uses https://vuejs.org/. At the moment we only build HTML but
there are packages to render a multitidue of different formats
including PDF, word docs etc. Extensions are written in Typescript or
Javascript so there is a massive eco-system
26, 2022 6:52 AM
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Once we were done with Christmas morning, my son and his family took off for
other Christmas venues and I spent most of the day downloading MiKTeX (an
editor for LateX) and reading
In fact I did not. Good point. It happens I'm still logged on at the client
cite; let's try it there...
Nope, same problem. Nevertheless I was hasty to blame Word; it's very possible
I just didn't set it up correctly in the .docx format. I know better than to
manually set formatting and
On 26/12/2022 20:52, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:52:16 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
...
This morning I emailed the Word document to myself and tried saving it as
PDF. Turns out Word is awful at that too. It skipped over most of the ToC
and jumped from there straight to the
On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:52:16 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
>...
>This morning I emailed the Word document to myself and tried saving it as
>PDF. Turns out Word is awful at that too. It skipped over most of the ToC
>and jumped from there straight to the beginning of the second chapter,
>omitting
On 26/12/2022 17:54, Charles Mills wrote:
I have avoided replying on this thread. It is not my job to shill for Microsoft
on a mainframe forum.
However, just to get the facts on the record, let me say that I have been
composing very complex manuals with included text and generated TODs and
them as PDFs, with 100% success.
Charles
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Once we were done with Christmas morning, my son and his family took off for
other Christmas venues and I spent most
Once we were done with Christmas morning, my son and his family took off for
other Christmas venues and I spent most of the day downloading MiKTeX (an
editor for LateX) and reading documentatino. Finding the documentation was
a bit of a chore and I'm not satisfied yet that I have everything I'll
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I got quite a few nominations from the two forums where I posted this
question, and it's early days to say I've settled on one, but currently I'm
looking hard at LaTeX. I found a tutorial on it at javatpoint.com
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, at 12:51, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> emacs
> THE
> vi
> ...
I've never used either e
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, at 12:51, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> emacs
> THE
> vi
> ...
I've never used either emacs or vi and don't much want to have to
learn another text editor's command set.
Regarding THE, is there a list anywhere of what the differences between
it and Kedit are? Wading through
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 16:01:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Steep learning curve? DocBook looks pretty simple.
>
That would imply a steep learning curve, wouldn't it?
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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>
Of course I didn't mean you :-)
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Years ago we looked for a tool set for our
I have Waterloo Script here on z/VM and it includes the assembler source.
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Years ago we looked for a tool set for our documentation with the requirements:
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- text source (preferably XML)
- open source and portable
- NOT Word or anything like it
We ended up using the docbook framework from Apache (DBF), which
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 at 01:35, Bob Bridges wrote:
> I thought about RTF. It is a markup language, after all, and I was
> recently able to write a REXX program that converts plain text to RTF with
> formatting including lots of fonts and a two-column layout (the
> error-message part of a friend's
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Yes, but for those of us without your favourite, what e
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Wordperfect is still alive and well, I have the 2021 Standard version installed
on all my home machines. My wife won't use anything else because of that most
excellent "r
I thought about RTF. It is a markup language, after all, and I was recently
able to write a REXX program that converts plain text to RTF with formatting
including lots of fonts and a two-column layout (the error-message part of a
friend's product manual). I may still attempt that. But I have
My employer of 14 years used WP for years. Every new version came to my
desk first; I'd install it, sweat and struggle with its bugs, work with
their support people, and after a while tell my boss "Ok, it's ready for
distribution" and we'd put the new version out on the users' desks.
One year I
I used to save my documents in Rich Text Format .RTF. All the markup
codes are stored in text (notepad) and several editors that use it.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 5:38 PM Bob Bridges wrote:
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> I got quite a few nominations from the two forums where I posted this
> question, and it's early days
Shmuel,
Why did you slander Worperfect like that? What did it ever do to you?
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Which is exactly the complaint I have when trying to add to my document using
Word. But enough people have symp
I got quite a few nominations from the two forums where I posted this
question, and it's early days to say I've settled on one, but currently I'm
looking hard at LaTeX. I found a tutorial on it at javatpoint.com, but that
was written by a non-native-English writer (maybe he a Slav?, guessing by
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> Alas, KEDIT is missing important functionality.
Yes, but for those of us without your favourite, what else is there?
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 09:51:58AM -0500, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Fair comments. In my travels I’ve not seen anyone use Libre Office
> or LaTeX; I’m not knocking them but if they are not widely used who
> will maintain the doc later when we all retire? When considering
> authoring docs like
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 21:23, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Waterloo Script will work just fine with TSO.
>
> If only VM/SP were public domain I'd suggest XEDIT as a reason to learn VM.
I use Kedit these days on my home (which is the only place I ever am) PCs. I
did
use Xedit for 3 years, back in
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 20:58, Bob Bridges wrote:
> But long ago
> I took up the habit of teaching each new PC to default to WordPad for .rtf
> documents, and that's what I use to write one- or two-page documentation on
> simple commands and utilities.
It's a while since I last used Wordpad, but
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 20:20, Phil Smith III wrote:
> Jeremy-you realize that PostScript is about as far as you can get from
> markup in a lot of ways, right? It's fun stuff but not what people generally
> mean when they say "markup". Just sayin'.
Good point!
When I used DCF, I wrote a lot of
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>
> ...But maybe I will anyway, to this extent: With each new PC I shell out
> real money for a copy of the real MS Office, including Access. But long ago
> I took up the habit of t
Which is exactly the complaint I have when trying to add to my document
using Word. But enough people have sympathized with me over Word's
shortcomings that I guess I needn't belabour the point.
...But maybe I will anyway, to this extent: With each new PC I shell out
real money for a copy of
I pay a great deal of attention to the question "who's going to maintain it
after I'm gone?", when I'm coding; it's for that reason that I stick to VBS and
VBA when writing tools for my clients in MS Office, and why I resisted the
temptation for years before finally breaking down and getting
Shmuel wrote:
>Oddly enough, one of the reasons that I use markup languages is that
>the documents are easy to maintain; adding text doesn't break formatting.
I don't find this odd at all! I miss markup, especially for books. Trying to
do consistency checks in FrameMaker or *shudder* Word is
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 17:36, David Spiegel wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
> CBT Files 280-287 (cbttape.org)
Thank-you!
At last, a compelling reason to install Hercules and some ancient
version of VM (not used that for real since 1985 or so, though),
or - since I see the CBT tapes mention a TSO command
I use LibreOffice on my home system. But only if I must interact with work.
Normally, I use RDP into my work desktop and use the stuff on it.
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> LaTeX; I’m not knocking
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Fair comments. In my travels I’ve not seen anyone use Libre Office or LaTeX;
I’m not knocking them but if they are not widely used who
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I have produced documents for years with xelatex and (lately) luatex (because,
imho, those are the only solution
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> If you’re looking for something that is good for mar
I have produced documents for years with xelatex and (lately) luatex (because,
imho, those are the only solution that gives typographical freedom, and
predictable, constant page layout, and optimal quality.
I am keeping that setup probably forever, but am moving to Markdown and pandoc
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, 16:47 Rupert Reynolds, wrote:
> I've been meaning to learn LaTex for years, but it looks very different
> from other markups. I'm off to find a beginners' course now :-)
>
>
And so the first hurdle is passed--install package 'texlive' on Linux and
'pdflatex' command just
Hi Jeremy,
CBT Files 280-287 (cbttape.org)
Regards,
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On 2022-12-22 12:24, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 00:38, Thomas Kern wrote:
I have liked Waterloo Script since I was introduced to it and began
writing Data Center Operation manuals using it.
Is an executable for it
The last copy I had was written in S/370 Assembler language and
executable in a VM/CMS (R6 through z/VM R5) environment.
For actual editing of document type files, I now use LibreOffice on
Linux and Windows desktops. I don't have to pay for it and I can save as
MS-formats to share with
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 00:38, Thomas Kern wrote:
> I have liked Waterloo Script since I was introduced to it and began
> writing Data Center Operation manuals using it.
Is an executable for it available anywhere?
If so, for what platform?
Is the source available?
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On 2022-12-21 20:01 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
If you’re looking for something that is good for markup then Markdown is widely
used.
Markdown is great for its simplicity, and the fact that it's all
character based makes it easy to manage revisions under git. It can be
challenging to produce a
I've been meaning to learn LaTex for years, but it looks very different
from other markups. I'm off to find a beginners' course now :-)
LibreOffice has the advantage of using an open standard, and being able to
save in various M$ formats, and html. Libre is sometimes used to recover
broken M$
Fair comments. In my travels I’ve not seen anyone use Libre Office or LaTeX;
I’m not knocking them but if they are not widely used who will maintain the doc
later when we all retire? When considering authoring docs like programs we
need to consider the downstream consumers / maintainers so
I use LyX also. But I don't do much documenting. "The source IS the
documentation."
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> I like LyX for this kind of thing. Perhaps because I'm too lazy to learn
> LaTeX or TeX.
>
> Tom Marchant
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My preference, alas, is dead: BookMagager BUILD/MVS (or VM), which is built on
BookMaster and DCF. Lacking that, I make do with LaTeX, which I find powerful
but clumsier that the tools built on Script.
I make extensive use of nested bulleted and numbered lists, and when I attempt
to copy an
smetz3
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If you’re looking for something that is good for markup then Markdown is widely
used. If your looking for a tool to edit
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I've just been playing with Visual Studio Code with the Markdown All-in-One
extension.
Almost the first thing I
I've just been playing with Visual Studio Code with the Markdown All-in-One
extension.
Almost the first thing I read is that different .md viewers behave
differently--to my mind the same problem as the downside of HTML.
And I'm not convinced about significant white space (sp-sp-crlf) to get a
If you’re looking for something that is good for markup then Markdown is widely
used. If your looking for a tool to edit in and manage the outlining of
documents, promotion of headings and tracking of footnotes then I will prefer
Word but Google Docs is amazing and free.
Matt Hogstrom
Showing my age...
I have liked Waterloo Script since I was introduced to it and began
writing Data Center Operation manuals using it.
I even wrote a Resignation Memo with it. For a while, I did have a 1600
BPI tape with both WSCRIPT and my 'resign script a0' file. Later I found
that 2
I use LaTeX myself, but you might want to take a look at Markdown.
https://www.markdownguide.org/
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I like LyX for this kind of thing. Perhaps because I'm too lazy to learn LaTeX
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