Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-08-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
In Co:Z, linerule=L4 (4 byte length prefixes) and linerule=rdw (IBM compatible RDWs) are different things. There is also a linerule=mfrdw, but you'll have to look at the documentation for that. Kirk Wolf On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:16:20

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:16:20 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >Here's the direct URL to the User's Guide: >https://coztoolkit.com/docs/sftp/index.html > >for FILEDATA=Record, here's an example: > >ls /+mode=binary,linerule=L4 > >(There are a number of different linerule options, including rdw, crlf, nl,

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-31 Thread Kirk Wolf
Here's the direct URL to the User's Guide: https://coztoolkit.com/docs/sftp/index.html for FILEDATA=Record, here's an example: ls /+mode=binary,linerule=L4 (There are a number of different linerule options, including rdw, crlf, nl, etc.) Also, if you have Co:Z on both sides, you can use the

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/27/2023 11:44 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: I don't remember what the deal was with NFS when I asked about it 3 years ago. More than likely its dependence on Kerberos... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
l Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Lionel wrote: >It would be impossible to speak to highly about Co:Z Presumably you meant "

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Phil Smith III
Lionel wrote: >It would be impossible to speak to highly about Co:Z Presumably you meant "too highly". Just clarifying, as it's easy to read this as a slam against Co:Z! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential YES. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
t: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:58:04 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr wrote: >... >ls /+mode=text > It's a pity that sftp provides no analogue of QUOTE SITE to do such things cleanly. I

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:58:04 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr wrote: >... >ls /+mode=text > It's a pity that sftp provides no analogue of QUOTE SITE to do such things cleanly. Is there "ls /+mode=record" to deal with FILEDATA=RECORD. One might want to "get" a traditional data set, supplying RDWs

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Tom Brennan
On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Co:Z SFTP only talks SSH/SFTP. It sits "on top" of IBM's ported OpenSSH. So you need IBM's OpenSSH installed. To get/put z/OS files you

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
rely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Co:Z SFTP only talks SSH/SFTP.

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Co:Z SFTP only talks SSH/SFTP. It sits "on top" of IBM's ported OpenSSH. So you need IBM's OpenSSH installed. To get/put z/OS files you do need to use some special command such as to put a text file with LRECL=80 and fixed block to z/OS ls

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread Rick Troth
This is great to hear, John. Thanks. For people like me, who need excruciating clarity, you're saying that the SERVER in the Co:Z product groks traditional datasets as well as USS files. Correct? Fantastic! That means one can use a variety of clients, specifically several which go via SSH. Is

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-28 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
I use sftp with Co:Z SFTP installed on the z/OS side. It allows access to z/OS files as well as OMVS files. Where as OpenSSH on z/OS only allows access to OMVS files. Under Windows you can use WSL, Putty, Cygwin, or any other CLI sftp product. I use Cygwin most of the time. On Wed, 26

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Schmitt, Michael
, 2023 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 17:18:57 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >z/OS MVS team doesn't want to install NFS. > Why? >Here's another problem: We used to be able to view MVS data sets and members >using

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 17:18:57 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >z/OS MVS team doesn't want to install NFS. > Why? >Here's another problem: We used to be able to view MVS data sets and members >using the IBM web server. I think this is mod_mvsds? > Read/Write? >Anyway, this only works with basic

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Schmitt, Michael
Also not installed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kevin Mckenzie Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows What about z/OSMF? -- Kevin McKenzie External Phone: 845-435-8282

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Kevin Mckenzie
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows z/OS MVS team doesn't want to install NFS. Here's another problem: We used to be able to view MVS data sets and members using the IBM web server. I think this is mod_mvsds? Anyway, this only works with basic authentication

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Schmitt, Michael
: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 16:27:23 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >... >And, WinSCP makes incorrect assumptions about what data looks like coming back >from listing PDS libraries. For example, you can not use WinSCP to download a >member of a P

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 16:27:23 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >... >And, WinSCP makes incorrect assumptions about what data looks like coming back >from listing PDS libraries. For example, you can not use WinSCP to download a >member of a PDS that does not have ISPF statistics. > How much of

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Schmitt, Michael
, 2023 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Hi Michael, Try winscp.com command interface. Works like a charm with MVS dataset. Ciao, -- Raphael Dal Pos / z/OS Support GOSP Generali Operations Services

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Charles Mills
I don't have the spare time to run tests proving things but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I have used it successfully in passive mode, running against the IBM Dallas datacenter z/OS. CM On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:39:57 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >Thanks for the MOVEit Freely

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread DAL POS Raphael
roven innocent !!" RDP 2009 -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List De la part de Schmitt, Michael Envoyé : jeudi 27 juillet 2023 17:40 À : IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Objet : Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Thanks for the MOVEit Freely suggestion, but it doesn't act

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Schmitt, Michael
file system. PROVE ME WRONG, I beg you. * installing the Linux subsystem is cheating! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 6:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-27 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential WS/SFTP? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Estle Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 4:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Preferred FTP Client for Windows [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization.

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
There are lots of good suggestions. Here's another: If you happen to have IBM Personal Communications ("PComm") or Host On-Demand ("HOD") then you already have a FTP/FTPS* client. There's a good client built into those products. It should understand passive mode and MVS data set vernacular. *

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 18:50:02 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: >Au contraire: https://www.ipswitch.com/resources/free-tools/moveit-freely > >There is no need for any client to have any special cognizance of the file >system at the server end. I am sure whoever wrote the Windows command line FTP >had

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 27/07/2023 8:32 am, Schmitt, Michael wrote: FileZilla for GUI. Windows built-in FTP for command line, but... There are NO (free) command line FTP clients for Windows that support passive mode AND work with the MVS file system. Zilch. Nada. NOT A SINGLE ONE. For command line FTP on

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Charles Mills
Au contraire: https://www.ipswitch.com/resources/free-tools/moveit-freely There is no need for any client to have any special cognizance of the file system at the server end. I am sure whoever wrote the Windows command line FTP had zero knowledge of z/OS data sets, but it works just fine, as

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 3:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows FileZilla for GUI. Windows built-in FTP for command line, but... There are NO (free) command line FTP clients

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Schmitt, Michael
FileZilla for GUI. Windows built-in FTP for command line, but... There are NO (free) command line FTP clients for Windows that support passive mode AND work with the MVS file system. Zilch. Nada. NOT A SINGLE ONE. Reason is the Windows FTP client doesn't support passive mode. And all the

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Bob Bridges
No one's going to like this answer, but for mainframe file transfers I do just fine with plain Windows-included FTP. Granted I use it mostly for transferring code - data only occasionally and that over VPN. For ordinary purposes I use MyFTP.txt to hold the commands; it's easy to modify and to

Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows

2023-07-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:06:52 -0500, Steve Estle wrote: > >I work in a secure government environment and moving files up and down from >the mainframe (especially traditional ZOS datasets) is a '' pita with >Winscp and everything I read (including IBMMAIN archives) is that tool is just