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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:44:16 +, Sey
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:44:16 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>EXEC2 didn't exist in 1971.
>
But later, could EXEC2 read a PDSE?
>
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>I would assume that it's difficult or impossible with PDSE,
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I would assume that it's difficult or impossible with PDSE, but that there is
less need in PDSE2, due to generations.
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:41:03 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
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>Actually, it doe
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:41:03 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
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>Actually, it does make sense (at least to me) to have this threshold set.
>We've gone back more than once to rescue a developer or support person who
>inadvertently scratched a tape the day before and we were able to recover it
>for
>Rex wrote:
>Actually, it does make sense (at least to me) to have this threshold set.
>We've gone back more than once to rescue a developer or support person who
>inadvertently >scratched a tape the day before and we were able to recover it
>for them by using this "expired but not really"
. Without the expire hold, as soon as the tape
is scratch, the data is gone.
Rex
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I had been thinking about that while working on something else
and as soon as you said the EXCP part
Some years ago I was working on NDM and was running all these
tape tests using NDM (function testing as a result of prepping a
new Release or Version).
A few months later, as I recall,
W dniu 07.02.2024 o 12:45, Gadi Ben-Avi pisze:
Hi,
We've been asked to attempt to read a file from a scratched tape.
We use Control-M/Tape as our tape management system.
The tapes are virtual 3490's stored on a TS7770.
The tape has many files, but we only need once specific one.
If it matters,
Have some fun. Go to the CBT tape and find the program called "TAPEMAP". Used
it many times.
Matthew
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 16:19:01 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote:
>
>>In the "scratch category" settings, you can set an "expire hold" field that
>>tells the TS77xx
rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote:
>In the "scratch category" settings, you can set an "expire hold" field that
>tells the TS77xx how long to keep an expired tape before releasing it to
>scratch. I believe that once that threshold is crossed, the TS77xx rewrites
>the tape mark to the beginning
and all data is lost - unless IBM
has some magic they can preform on the back end.
Rex
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I think all you really need to do is change it from scratch to master in the
ISMF tape option under ISPF/PDF. That will tell the 7700 that it's
I think all you really need to do is change it from scratch to master in the
ISMF tape option under ISPF/PDF. That will tell the 7700 that it's not a
scratch tape.
That will change it in the library. You will then need to bypass your tape
system (normally that's done with the special
y and Control-M. RMM it is fairly easy, not sure about
Control-M. The 7700 should also be no issue.
Doug Fuerst
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From "Gadi Ben-Avi"
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Date 2/7/2024 7:13:00 AM
Subject Re: Reading a scratch tape
When I
Hi Gadi AMV"SH,
Assuming that your ESM and JES allow BLP, you could do something like,
//SYSUT1 DD DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=TAPE,
// VOL=SER=123456,
// LABEL=(n,BLP,EXPDT=98000),
// DSN=A,B
To calculate "n" ... (3*File
d Control-M. RMM it is fairly easy, not sure about Control-M.
> The 7700 should also be no issue.
>
> Doug Fuerst
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Subject Re: Reading a scratch tape
When I did that, I got these messages:
IGD330I ERROR OCCURRED DURING CBRXLCS PROCESSING-
FOR DATA SET
VOLUME REQUESTED BY SPECIFIC VOLUME SERIAL IS A SCRATCH VOLUME
THE FAILING VOLSER IS P18488
IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURIN
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:45:39 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote:
>Hi,
>We've been asked to attempt to read a file from a scratched tape.
>
>We use Control-M/Tape as our tape management system.
>The tapes are virtual 3490's stored on a TS7770.
>The tape has many files, but we only need once specific one.
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 20:34:14 +0800, Brian Fraser wrote:
>TS7700 wont read a tape in scratch category,
>I don't know about Control-M, but in CA1 there is a utility called CTSSYNC
>to "protect" a scratch tape by altering the cat code back to non-scratch.
>
Assuming it hasn't been overwritten.
Is
Since the tape is a scratch, the first thing to be done is to change it to
private, to avoid it being offered
to be rewritten.
I believe TS7700 does not allow a scratch tape to be open as input, so changing
it to private will also
allow you to read it.
Best Regards
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Been a while since I had to do this, but can't you just BLP?
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Yes. Just use a VOL=SER reference for the tape, and refer to the file by DSN.
My guess is most of us has hit this issue, and it really
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Hi,
We've been asked to attempt to read a file from a scratched tape.
We use Control-M/Tape as our tape management system.
The tapes are virtual 3490's stored on a TS7770.
The tape has many files, but we only need once sp
Hi,
We've been asked to attempt to read a file from a scratched tape.
We use Control-M/Tape as our tape management system.
The tapes are virtual 3490's stored on a TS7770.
The tape has many files, but we only need once specific one.
If it matters, the file is the output of DB/2 backup.
Is this
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