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No, but he did coin "Think of it as evolution in action."
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I am aware of only one product (commercial) that claims to be of any help in
language conversion for assembler code, but there may be more of which I am
unaware. In the one case I am aware of, the results were truly horrible COBOL
code t
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I am aware of only one
All the conversions I did were for companies in France.
The first one was to convert SAS/C to IBM/C as the SAS stopped supporting their
C compiler.
There were a number of SAS/C functions that I had to create going to IBM/C.
Some I wrote in C. The others I wrote in assembler.
It really helped
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I am aware of only one product (commercial) that claims to be of any help in
language conversion for assembler code, but there may be more of whic
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Hey experts; I am back with mainframes. I have a new position to analyze to
assembly language program. Is their any programs to analyze ASM programs for
re-write them to a more modern languag
Hey experts; I am back with mainframes. I have a new position to analyze to
assembly language program. Is their any programs to analyze ASM programs for
re-write them to a more modern language. Perhaps their are tools to help me,
Thanks,
Warren reaOn Monday, November 1, 2021, 11:49:52
Use VA next to the file name in ISPF 3.4 or 3.17.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 5:53 AM Barbara Nitz wrote:
> >Those files are not stored in EBCDIC. I used ISPF 3.17 to View the files
> using the UTF-8 option. Then you can see the XML source.
>
> Thanks for that pointer. I did use the command "ASCII"
>Those files are not stored in EBCDIC. I used ISPF 3.17 to View the files using
>the UTF-8 option. Then you can see the XML source.
Thanks for that pointer. I did use the command "ASCII" (which got command not
found), but "ASCII" is an IPCS command. :-(
Regards, Barbara
>> What I found really annoying in my serverpac was that I was asked
>> for the jobclass for sysout data sets, dutifully specified an
>> asterisk (take the one from the jobcard) and then got generated
>> statements like this: SYSPRINT DD *. It took me a while to
>> understand why I had gotten
Hello Barbara,
Those files are not stored in EBCDIC. I used ISPF 3.17 to View the files using
the UTF-8 option. Then you can see the XML source.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:05:07 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
>Now Marna tells us the ptfs where it can be found. That little tidbit of
>information
Marna WALLE (mwalle)
@mwalle
·3h
Yeah! The latest PTFs for the z/OS V2.5 Upgrade Workflow refresh
closed today (for APAR OA61406). Also, IBM Documentation was updated
with that latest refresh export. Check out the Summary of Changes for
what was updated.
> Do I have to go through the entire workflow for each clone, or can I
> quickly create multiple clones?
You have to go through an entire deployment operation to clone a software
instance. If you're deploying the same source software again you can Copy
an already completed Deployment which is
> We were able to merge datasets when we used CustomPac Installation
> Dialog to install ServerPac like the below merged dataset display.
> Can we still do that through z/OSMF software Management? Thanks.
No, not at the moment, but we are actively developing a merge data set
capability for the
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> Does the z/OSMF workflow support the following methodology:
To clarify terminology I'll rephrase your question to what I think you
me
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> Does the z/OSMF workflow support the following methodology:
To clarify terminology I'll rephrase your question to what I think you
meant to ask:
Does z/OSMF Software Management, and the z/OSMF workflows supplied with
the IBM ServerPac portable software instance, support the following
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the great feedback! This has been a good conversation to follow
Hi Keith,
Thanks for sharing!
I did notice your comment: "I re-ordered the Serverpac because the first order
had two target zones (I had assumed that this was because I had accidentally
ordered 2 releases of the same product - node.js IIRC - but it turned out to be
because I received
> Not having seen the zOSMF method,
Since you have not actually seen it yet, please allow me to clarify a few
points.
> ... I know serverpac full
> system replacement needs a usercat (that would become the master cat
> if you wanted to replace that and IPL the new system) for allocating
> and
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the great feedback! This has been a good conversation to follow
the past couple of days. We do appreciate it!
From the conversation, I see those
HI Barbara,
==> I did a 'save as' in the browser and saved the html pages to my laptop. I
expected the content to be on my laptop, but it wasn't. When I opened the html
pages using notepad, there was some small crap in it that was way too small to
be the information I had seen online. I
Hi Maria.
Yes, I do believe that I can create the next z/os software instance very
quickly now that we have a v2.5 instance. We use what the Serverpac dialog
called ‘system upgrade’ , retain the existing master catalog and use indirect
cataloging.
In fact I was so confident that I could do
Hi Kurt,
>Does z/OSMF have a different look and feel than CustomPac ServerPac? Yes.
> However, z/OSMF can certainly install as you've described here: you can
>specify your three installation volumes for the target and distribution
>libraries, you can let SMS manage the CPAC and SMP/E data
Hi Marna,
thanks for your reply.
>Interesting you just happened upon finding the z/OS upgrade material on the
>z/OS website :). I think we need to make it easier to find, as perhaps the
>System Level portion of the z/OS release bookshelf isn't the best place?
I was expecting it where the
Hi all,
Thanks for all the great feedback! This has been a good conversation to follow
the past couple of days. We do appreciate it!
From the conversation, I see those here are on the "minimum installation path"
that want to:
1. Use an existing prior configuration to save time when
HI Barbara,
Interesting you just happened upon finding the z/OS upgrade material on the
z/OS website :). I think we need to make it easier to find, as perhaps the
System Level portion of the z/OS release bookshelf isn't the best place?
You mentioned, "I wasn't too happy with it because it
> Absolutely understand what you said, but that's dumb.
>
> I haven't created a NEW Master Catalog in 20 years, because why
> would I want to have to RECAT all my PAGE, SMF, USERCATs, NON-VSAM,
> ETC datasets??
Some folks do create a new master catalog. That's their process.
Apparently not
volumes.
Mod 27 sysres and OMVS volumes.
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Terri,
There are ways to leave your Master Catalog alone, and still be able to upgrade
z/OS
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> Great information Kurt, thanks, but need a clarification on one thing.
>
> >>That's great! You would choose any of these software instances as
> your model
> Great information Kurt, thanks, but need a clarification on one thing.
>
> >>That's great! You would choose any of these software instances as
> your model when installing z/OS next. You can also experiment with
> other Software >>Management actions on those defined software
> instances.
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> So just a few clarifications.
>
> I am guessing when I install z/OS 2.6, not sure what my model is, an
> instance or the portable 2.5
> So just a few clarifications.
>
> I am guessing when I install z/OS 2.6, not sure what my model is, an
> instance or the portable 2.5 order?
A model is a software instance representing your actual installed
software, no matter how it was installed, not a portable software
instance.
>
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> I have one set of installation volumes (TGT125, ZFS225 and DLBV25)
> specific to the release. TGT125 will NEVER get IPL'd, I clone from
> there to everywhere. All 'extranous' data s
Hey Kurt (and Marna),
In order to help customers get to the zOSMF way of doing it, IBM could do a
quick round of calls with its customers to understand how shops most commonly
do it currently.
Then, IBM could do multi-part webinars or a bunch of IBM TechDocs to address
the switching-over
> I have one set of installation volumes (TGT125, ZFS225 and DLBV25)
> specific to the release. TGT125 will NEVER get IPL'd, I clone from
> there to everywhere. All 'extranous' data sets (CPAC, the SMP
> environment) goes SMS and stays on my sandbox. I also don't IPL the
> CPAC system that
Terri,
I had found the migration workflow here (of all places as a link for the
upgrade to the z15 that we just completed):
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.e0zm100/Export_zOS_V2R3_to_V2R5_Upgrade_Workflow.html
I wasn't too happy with it because it doesn't work offline,
Hi Bob,
Yes, the z/OS V2.5 Upgrade Workflow is available in PTF(s) on z/OS V2.3 and
V2.4, and in V2.5, and can be found in /usr/lpp/bcp/upgrade/. It is no longer
in github. The latest level of the Workflow is found in APAR OA61406 - which is
the level that contains all the links to the GA z/OS
> What about datasets that are not in the CSI, e.g., CPAC.*?
When you use a model to initialize the deployment configuration, data sets
not managed by SMP/E, like the CPAC.* data sets, won't be initialized to
your existing data set naming conventions. The same is true for new data
sets that
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> I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on
> custompac dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time.
>
> I do echo Terri's sentiments that there should be
> I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on
> custompac dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time.
>
> I do echo Terri's sentiments that there should be a way to mostly
> seed a new z/OSMF instance whether there is a utility that reads the
> last saved
Hi Kurt. In answer to your question about my previous post:
We put the SMP/E target zone datasets on the target volume. The names in this
case are SMPE.ZOS250.MVST250.* which are unique in the system. The CSI is VSAM
so it is directly cataloged. The installation process indirectly catalogs the
> Wanted to add a few other comments
> Since IBM is forcing everyone to z/OSMF with 2.5, not excited for
> this but It seems to work pretty well, except for everything that
> cant see it doing behind the scenes. It seems this is a ton of
> catalog look-ups to validate nothing exist.
>
> But
Oh, and in the custompac dialogs, there are exactly 4 jobs that I run after
resolving new datasets that came along with the new release.
- allocate and catalog the datasets (ALLOCDS)
- restore the datasets (RESTORE)
- update SMPE DDDEFS (UP)
- and a modified version of RECATALOG datasets to
>Hey Dave
> I ordered both, and you are right in 4 hours I had my z/OS loaded and IPLed
> at least the initial IPL in test. However
>
>I wanted to try z/OSMF and I actually like the dataset naming flexibility,
>much better than the dialogs and Alias's discovery.
>
>But all the background
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Shields up!
This old dog wants
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I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on custompac
dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time.
I do ec
and downloading
z/OS 2.5.
Bob
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I too ordered V2.5 in the "w
I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on custompac
dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time.
I do echo Terri's sentiments that there should be a way to mostly seed a new
z/OSMF instance whether there is a utility that reads the last saved custompac
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NVM, It how you select/filter the names that changes if you can modify or not..
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Wanted to add a few other comments
Since IBM is forcing everyone to z/OSMF with 2.5, not excited
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Hi Kurt,
There are lots of things I dislike about black boxes and not being able to
take things on blind faith.
In my 39 years as a system programmer that's gotten me into trouble exactly
once
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> Actually now I was totally able to custom
> I still have some gripes but these occurred also with the old dialogue:
> - SMPE.ZOS250.* non-VSAM datasets on the sysres are indirectly
> cataloged because indirect cataloging by the installation dialogue
> works at the volume level.
Can you expound on this comment a bit? Are you saying
> Actually now I was totally able to customize all my dataset names,
> which is really great. It is time consuming because I basically had
> to change everything.
Glad to hear you were able to customize the data set names to your liking.
As already mentioned, next time I encourage you to use
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Hi Terri.
I had a more positive experience with z/osmf installation
Hi Terri.
I had a more positive experience with z/osmf installation of a z/os serverpac
after some initial confusion.
A long time ago I had created a ‘software instance’ from a pair of z/os 2.4
target/dlib zones. I used this as a model for my 2.5 installation and was very
surprised when
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Well I tried, but there are way to many issues with using z/OSMF in my
installation.
First you cant fix the dataset names, you can only change the prefix, We use
SYS1.qualifier for all
Well I tried, but there are way to many issues with using z/OSMF in my
installation.
First you cant fix the dataset names, you can only change the prefix, We use
SYS1.qualifier for all datasets.
When I run the server it just appends SYS1SSA as a HLQ and I am off running.
Next SMPE datasets, I
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