Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2016-01-26 Thread Phil Smith
Argh, found this in my Drafts folder, never sent. Figured with SHARE coming up, might be worth correcting some misapprehensions. Lynn wrote: >The problem was 1) it was as easy to make counterfeit chipcards as magstipe >and 2) they had moved business rules out into the chip. A chipcard terminal

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:20:22 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >And airlines are advertising "cash-free cabins", meaning that they no >longer have to make change, carry a float, and deal with multiple >currencies. > Are the terminals exchange-rate savvy? Does the customer get a choice of currencies?

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 November 2015 at 06:04, R.S. wrote: > We also have embossed cards but we don't use imprinters at all, for years. > AFAIR the last time my card was imprinted was Radisson Wilshire in LA or > some other hotel in Chicago. It was after 11 Sept 2001. The last

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-24 Thread Charles Mills
: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!] R.S. wrote: >I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops >in the Forest do not have card terminal? I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-11-23 o 23:33, Smith III, Phil (HP Data Security (Voltage)) pisze: R.S. wrote: I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops in the Forest do not have card terminal? I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such cards. BTW: US is last

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-23 Thread Frank Swarbrick
; a.k.a. "fallback"). In this case the merchant takes the hit. > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:51:36 -0600 > From: mike.a.sch...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > On Sun, Nov

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-23 Thread Smith III, Phil (HP Data Security (Voltage))
R.S. wrote: >I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops >in the Forest do not have card terminal? I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such cards. >BTW: US is last country where my card were imprinted (embossed), it is >probably also last place on

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!] R.S. wrote: >I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops >in the Forest do not have card terminal? I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such cards. >BTW: US is last country where my

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Thompson
Radoslaw: What do you not understand? The villages and towns that I went to do not take credit cards with chips or without. They want Euros. The banks in the small towns expect you to use a card with a pin. They do not care if it is from USA or Japan. They can't do a manual transaction

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-23 Thread Frank Swarbrick
While Chip & PIN I believe is the standard in Europe, Chip & Sig is more common in the U.S. > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:40:57 -0500 > From: 0050619ca8df-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statement

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-11-22 o 17:02, Steve Thompson pisze: On 11/22/2015 07:52 AM, Vince Coen wrote: UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of transaction. C & P (chip and pin) has been in use in the UK (and Europe) for some years. For Americans who do not travel to Germany

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > At 08:42 -0600 on 11/22/2015, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Were you at > SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st: > >> The biggest incentive was on merchants to get chip-card-capable readers >> in place to avoid

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 11/21/2015 10:27 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > At 09:04 -0700 on 11/21/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Were you > at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st: > >> On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Ed Gould
ent: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 19:26 Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! Ah Chip & PIN at last. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...

Re: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!]

2015-11-22 Thread Steve Thompson
On 11/22/2015 07:52 AM, Vince Coen wrote: UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of transaction. C & P (chip and pin) has been in use in the UK (and Europe) for some years. For Americans who do not travel to Germany (or Europe much): I hadn't been in Germany for

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" <hal9...@panix.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 21/11/2015 16:29 Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Vince Coen
UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of transaction. Procedure for online transactions only needs the CCV code (on back of card in signature strip) to be passed along with the card no (16 digits), expiry date, name on card, verification of address on card is used for

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Phil Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org<mailto:charl...@mcn.org>> Date: Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu<mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> Hunt down

Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 6:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! On 11/21/2015 10:27 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > At 09

Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Charles Mills
Subject: Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the issuing institutions. I shopped yesterday at an upscale supermarket using my magstripe card. The clerk pointed out that the card

Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Vince Coen
] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the issuing institutions. I

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:42 -0600 on 11/22/2015, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st: The biggest incentive was on merchants to get chip-card-capable readers in place to avoid higher fraud liability, and at least most of the merchants I frequent have complied,

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:04 -0700 on 11/21/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st: On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Bob Shannon
> Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card > system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell potential customers their credit card system is insecure? Bob Shannon Rocket Software,

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell potential customers their credit card system is insecure? Credit card

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Charles Mills
artin Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: >> Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card >> s

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Ed Gould
Sure and if they don't guarantee it go to another hotel. Ed On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell potential

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Aled Hughes
-Original Message- From: Martin Packer <martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com> To: IBM-MAIN <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Sent: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 19:26 Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! Ah Chip & PIN at last. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zCha

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Martin Packer
ks/blogs/MartinPacker From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" <hal9...@panix.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 21/11/2015 16:29 Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements! Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com (Martin Packer) writes: > Ah Chip & PIN at last. there was a large pilot deployment in the US around the turn of the century ... however it was in the "YES CARD" period ... the issue was it was possible to use the same skimming exploits to collect information for

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
slight mainframe related trivia. chip had a booth at the '99 world-wide retail banking conference ... along with press release ... in this old post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#x959bai X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI leading up to the conference ... we spent a lot of time with one of

Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-20 Thread Charles Mills
The Seattle Sheraton was breached for a time range that included March of 2015. http://www.starwoodhotels.com/Media/PDF/Corporate/Hotel_List.pdf Also the Orlando Dolphin but not while SHARE was there! Charles -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-20 Thread Ed Gould
Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Ed On Nov 20, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Charles Mills wrote: The Seattle Sheraton was breached for a time range that included March of 2015.